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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately (Now with 80 to 100 units less fat!)
« Reply #2100 on: July 03, 2007, 11:00:26 AM »
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« Reply #2101 on: July 03, 2007, 11:20:32 AM »
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Sony’s in a tough spot, but by adopting a strategy of more product placement, won’t it just turn off the very customers the company’s trying to woo?


Their PR has been so bad already, at this stage they might figure the userbase they have isn't going to leave for anything... and that it might be time to milk it.

...or they still just don't understand how easily information travels over the net (even despite their spyware CD fiasco), and how, in this case, those that would read this article are the one's who will care about the issue the most.
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« Reply #2102 on: July 05, 2007, 11:52:18 AM »
BTW, $100 price drop on July 12.

Read.

Now wait a second... July 12? Isn't that a thursday? Isn't that at E3? Isn't that a day after Sony's E3 conference?
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« Reply #2103 on: July 05, 2007, 12:01:09 PM »
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BTW, $100 price drop on July 12.

Read.

Now wait a second... July 12? Isn't that a thursday? Isn't that at E3? Isn't that a day after Sony's E3 conference?


Booo, now I may actually have to buy a PS3.
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« Reply #2104 on: July 05, 2007, 12:04:24 PM »
I quiver at the thought of all the VC games $500 could buy.
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« Reply #2105 on: July 05, 2007, 12:13:45 PM »
Sorry but while $100 less is good. . . $500 is still a lot of money for a console that really has no killer apps out for it.
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« Reply #2106 on: July 05, 2007, 12:26:34 PM »
This makes me think MS will announce a price drop in November sometime, just to spoil Sony's Christmas, but two months after proftting like mad from Halo 3.
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« Reply #2107 on: July 05, 2007, 12:43:24 PM »
$500 is still friggin' expensive, but that's a good drop.

Being on the market for a 2nd console, in my money-blowing, self-justifying mind I see that as $250 for a console and $250 for a very good BRD player, which looks like it may be the format winner. So it's pretty interesting now...
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« Reply #2108 on: July 05, 2007, 01:07:41 PM »
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$500 is still friggin' expensive, but that's a good drop.

Being on the market for a 2nd console, in my money-blowing, self-justifying mind I see that as $250 for a console and $250 for a very good BRD player, which looks like it may be the format winner. So it's pretty interesting now...


Not sure how good the BRD player is, but still that kind of logic is what killed PS3 in the first place "Oh but look at what a great deal you get, you get a BRD player no one wants and a game system!".
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« Reply #2109 on: July 05, 2007, 01:21:08 PM »
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I quiver at the thought of all the VC games $500 could buy.


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« Reply #2110 on: July 05, 2007, 01:24:33 PM »
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I quiver at the thought of all the VC games $500 could buy.


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« Reply #2111 on: July 05, 2007, 01:27:53 PM »
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Not sure how good the BRD player is, but still that kind of logic is what killed PS3 in the first place "Oh but look at what a great deal you get, you get a BRD player no one wants and a game system!".


Reviews from the tech sites say the PS3 is one of the best BRD players. And it also apparently upscales DVDs very well too, with the latest firmware.

As I said,  I don't speak for anybody else. I just happen to be on the market for an HD player and another console at some point this year, so it's a viable choice.    
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« Reply #2112 on: July 05, 2007, 01:36:01 PM »
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Not sure how good the BRD player is, but still that kind of logic is what killed PS3 in the first place "Oh but look at what a great deal you get, you get a BRD player no one wants and a game system!".


Reviews from the tech sites say the PS3 is one of the best BRD players. And it also apparently upscales DVDs very well too, with the latest firmware.

As I said,  I don't speak for anybody else. I just happen to be on the market for an HD player and another console at some point this year, so it's a viable choice.


Get Xbox 360 and HD-DVD player, you not only get great games but a great HD DVD player!
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« Reply #2113 on: July 05, 2007, 03:05:08 PM »
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Reviews from the tech sites say the PS3 is one of the best BRD players.


Isn't it also one of the cheapest as well? There's no way Sony's not going to be selling these things at a loss for at least a while.
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« Reply #2114 on: July 05, 2007, 04:02:47 PM »
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Reviews from the tech sites say the PS3 is one of the best BRD players.


Isn't it also one of the cheapest as well? There's no way Sony's not going to be selling these things at a loss for at least a while.


I believe there is one out or one coming out that will be in the 300$ price range that is superior to the PS3's.
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« Reply #2115 on: July 05, 2007, 05:33:06 PM »
Well there is only one drawback to the Blu-Ray movie playback and that since the disc has to spin faster during the movie playback, it causes the PS3 to heat up which causes the only instance of the PS3 overheating. But the DVD upscaling is nice feature. The only problem I have with the PS3 is that I own a 1080i TV which the PS3 doesn't like on early PS3 games that are only 720p capable (it will down grade it to 480p automatically).
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« Reply #2116 on: July 05, 2007, 05:50:31 PM »
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Get Xbox 360 and HD-DVD player, you not only get great games but a great HD DVD player!


That's an option, but at the moment it looks like BRD has the edge. Standalone HD-DVD players are going to snake their way down to $200 before too long also.  We'll have to see if that helps them recapture the market or not.

Quite the number of confusing options right now. It's funny... MS has good software and crappy hardware. Sony has good hardware and crappy software. But I guess that shouldn't be a surprise considering who they are.

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Isn't it also one of the cheapest as well? There's no way Sony's not going to be selling these things at a loss for at least a while.


Yep it was the cheapest for a while. Sony's 2nd generation model was just released for $500. There are some older models (not as good) for around that price or a bit less now too.  
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Now with 80 to 100 units less fat!)
« Reply #2117 on: July 05, 2007, 06:02:47 PM »
Sony has good hardware? I thought everyone and their mother was complaining about how Cell is so complicated to work on and how the GPU sucks compared to 360's.

If you're talking about Blu-Ray/HD-DVD, then bah, they both suck!
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« Reply #2118 on: July 05, 2007, 07:09:30 PM »
I agree...


I don't see this doing much in Japan. Maybe Europe though....
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« Reply #2119 on: July 06, 2007, 02:55:58 AM »
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Sony has good hardware? I thought everyone and their mother was complaining about how Cell is so complicated to work on and how the GPU sucks compared to 360's.


I meant from a quality assurance standpoint. There haven't been any particularly widespread QA issues with PS3 thus far. But yeah, it is a beast to work with.
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« Reply #2120 on: July 06, 2007, 04:54:47 AM »
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Sony has good hardware? I thought everyone and their mother was complaining about how Cell is so complicated to work on and how the GPU sucks compared to 360's.


I meant from a quality assurance standpoint. There haven't been any particularly widespread QA issues with PS3 thus far. But yeah, it is a beast to work with.


Actually I am not sure what kind of QA PS3 has, the sales have been pretty poor for the most part and there may not be a large enough sample size to clearly state one way or another.
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« Reply #2121 on: July 06, 2007, 05:40:12 AM »
I just got an email from Gamestop that promises that if you buy a PS3 that you get your choice of 5 free Blu Ray movies.  Not good for Sony with retailers getting desperate.
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« Reply #2122 on: July 06, 2007, 07:06:44 AM »
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Actually I am not sure what kind of QA PS3 has, the sales have been pretty poor for the most part and there may not be a large enough sample size to clearly state one way or another.
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« Reply #2123 on: July 06, 2007, 08:28:50 AM »
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« Reply #2124 on: July 06, 2007, 09:50:05 AM »
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Actually I am not sure what kind of QA PS3 has, the sales have been pretty poor for the most part and there may not be a large enough sample size to clearly state one way or another.


What Kairon said.
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