Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 826490 times)

MaryJane · « **Reply #1775 on:** April 03, 2007, 06:20:08 AM »

Nice av BnM.

I would love to see sales of the PS3 for one week be a 4 or even 3 digit number in one of the territories. That would deliver a message no amount of spin could turn around.

vudu · « **Reply #1776 on:** April 03, 2007, 07:17:34 AM »

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Originally posted by: capamerica
I sooo saw this coming!

Nice one, Nostradamus. Looks like you're on a roll.

Any more predictions? Will there be a Halo 4? Will Xbox 360 will continue to not sell very well in Japan? Will Nintendo release another color of the DS Lite and people everywhere buy the damn system again?

capamerica · « **Reply #1777 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:25:51 AM »

Hey don't dis my powers. I've been giving my two cents on how the industry is going to be for quite some time now, Its not my fault no one listens to me.

Oh and there won't be a Halo4 ;-)

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1778 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:37:49 AM »

We keep joking that Cap, me and the rest of us should quit our jobs and be analysts, since we predicted the Wii selling out at launch, selling out after launch and remaining sold out for months after.

We also predicted the loss of specific PS3 exclusives, NeoGeo arriving on the VC and the jumping ship of DQIX from Sony platforms in favor of Nintendo.

Do analysts only make money in bribes or do they actually get paid for doing it?

IceCold · « **Reply #1779 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:46:13 AM »

Lots of people predicted the Wii selling out, as far back as TGS. But when the GameCube was at an all-time low, and the controller hadn't yet been revealed, the first person I saw to predict the Wii winning this generation was wandering.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #1780 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:47:05 AM »

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Originally posted by: capamerica
Hey don't dis my powers. I've been giving my two cents on how the industry is going to be for quite some time now, Its not my fault no one listens to me.

Oh and there won't be a Halo4 ;-)

Hey, I listen! :-p

Also, I called Wii Sports being a good game and vital in promoting the Wii. Not even SB called that one! :-p

vudu · « **Reply #1781 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:58:19 AM »

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Originally posted by: capamerica
Oh and there won't be a Halo4 ;-)

They might not call it Halo 4, but the game will come out and we'll all know what it is.

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Originally posted by: IceCold
the first person I saw to predict the Wii winning this generation was wandering.

He probably had some inside information, what with working for Ubisoft and all.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1782 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:33:38 AM »

Can someone please explain to me how this article even makes sense, This is some of the worst spin I've seen in a while.

gamesIndusty.biz

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Wii still outselling PlayStation 3 in Japan
But gap between Sony and Nintendo narrowing fast

The latest figures from Famitsu publisher Enterbrain have revealed that the Nintendo Wii is outselling PlayStation 3 by two to one in Japan.

As reported by Bloomberg, 1.95 million Wii units were sold in the territory between console launch on December 2 and March 25. The PlayStation 3 went on sale in Japan on November 11, and 812,000 units were sold by March 25.

However, it would appear that the gap between Sony and Nintendo is narrowing. Media Create previously announced that during the last week of January, the ratio of Wii to PS3 units sold was four to one.

If you do the math, the "gap" isn't narrowing as the Wii is still outselling the PS3 2 to 1. It might me widening the the "gap" less now than it was then, but its still widening the gap.

If I normally make $4 every week compared to your $1, and then this week I happen to only make $2 compared to your $1, I'm still making more $$ than you. The only "gap" that is being narrowed is how much more $$ I'm making than you this week.

The PS3 would have to start outselling the Wii to start closing in on any such "gap".

vudu · « **Reply #1783 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:43:06 AM »

You have to think about it in terms of market share, not units.

With the numbers you gave in the quote, Wii has 70.6% market share in Japan and PS3 has 29.4% market share. I'm going to ignore Xbox 360 for this example.

If this week the Wii sells 100K units and the PS3 sells 50K units the gap had widened as far as number of units sold (by 50K). However, if you look at it in terms of market share the Wii would now have 70.4% market share and the PS3 would have 29.6% market share. Hence, the gap has narrowed.

You can spin anything if you try hard enough.

Ceric · « **Reply #1784 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:22:15 AM »

One Degree of Implausibility. People are willing to Suspend things by One Degree. The trick is it doesn't matter how big that one degree of seperation is.
Though thats for a different time.

In the end though I think the best prediction was when Pale did the date spot on.

Deguello · « **Reply #1785 on:** April 05, 2007, 05:44:02 AM »

Does anybody want an update on the fate of that awful fake blog Sony tried to run for the PSP?

The results are quite creamy.

I thought they were going to try to use this spot for genuine marketing?

Jin-X · « **Reply #1786 on:** April 05, 2007, 06:57:35 AM »

Here's the 1up spin:

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Those figures courtesy of Enterbrain, parent company of Famitsu magazine. Wii (which went on sale in Japan on December 2) has sold about 1.95 million units. The PS3, in contrast, has only sold 812,000 units, despite having been on sale since November 11. These figures, while somewhat sour, may still prove a comfort to Sony, since they represent a narrowing of the previously reported "4-Wiis to every PS3" margin which was being reported out of Japan in February.

That's because the nearly 4:1 Wii to PS3 ratio was in relation to WEEKLY sales, while here they are talking about total sales and the PS3 launched a month before the Wii in Japan. But hey 1up were the ones that made that ridiculous Feb NPD spin article.

link

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1787 on:** April 05, 2007, 08:13:00 AM »

ALL I WANT FOR XMAS IS A HAGEN DAAZ PORTABLE

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1788 on:** April 05, 2007, 10:02:17 AM »

So does Hagen Dazs think it's going to get free advertising out of the notoriety of that site, or what?

Interestingly, Sony has an excuse for that whole thing:

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The desire to more directly target that 13-17 year-old market was what led to the All I Want For Christmas Is A PSP campaign last year, Koller said. "That campaign clearly did not work," he said, but it was an attempt to "identify ways of speaking and marketing to that 13-17 year-old consumer. It was an effort to be able to target that individual in a more quiet manner and not go out and promote it and have it be something that was found. The way it was done is not correct... In the future, we'll be more clear and transparent to the consumer."

What's scary is that Sony's marketing group doesn't know how to market to teens. Time to hire somebody who does, if you really want to sell the thing to them.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1789 on:** April 05, 2007, 10:37:52 AM »

OF COURSE they know how to market to teens.

You show lots of game footage of violence, slap an M rating on the games, and play Guns & Roses in the background. It works for EVERYBODY. Their problem was they TARGETTED a group as if they were trying to think like Nintendo (target the teh kiddee), while they had the whole mass-market thing down all along.

Shorty McNostril · « **Reply #1790 on:** April 05, 2007, 11:03:28 AM »

But most 13-17yr olds don't have $400 to drop on a PSP.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1791 on:** April 05, 2007, 11:35:24 AM »

\( '3')/

NOT MY PROBLEM

Actually that may not be a martkett-ing issue at all.

More like going after the WRONG market.

Djunknown · « **Reply #1792 on:** April 05, 2007, 03:26:30 PM »

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But unspoiled 13-17yr olds don't have $400 to drop on a PSP.

Fixed.

Shift Key · « **Reply #1793 on:** April 05, 2007, 06:57:47 PM »

Here's some launch numbers to compare for Australia:

* Xbox 360 launch: 30,421 consoles sold in four days
* Nintendo Wii launch: 32,901 consoles sold in four days
* PlayStation 3 launch: 27,083 consoles sold in ten days

Sources:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=24029
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12109
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=15729

Now that everything's settling down over here (Wiis can actually be found, not sure about the PS3s because I don't care) it'll be interesting to see how these numbers change. I'll see if I can find some more current numbers.

EDIT: Top 10 Games for Launch Week in Australia

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GfK – Software Sales Chart Top Ten w/c 19 March 2007
Game Title, Publisher
1. Resistance: Fall of Man – PS3, SCE
2. MotorStorm - PS3, SCE
3. FORMULA ONE CHAMPIONSHIP EDITION - PS3, SCE
4. CALL OF DUTY 3 - PS3, Activision
5. FINAL FANTASY XII- PS2, Square Enix
6. Need for Speed Carbon - PS3, Electronic Arts
7. Ridge Racer 7 - PS3, Namco Bandai
8. Fight Night Round 3 - PS3, Electronic Arts
9. Virtua Fighter 5 - PS3, Sega
10. Virtua Tennis 3 - PS3, Sega

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/11117/1092/

Yeah, very depressing.

redgiemental · « **Reply #1794 on:** April 06, 2007, 03:23:46 AM »

To add to the bleak outlook for Sony, some UK retailers are cutting the price of the PS3 already. Less than 2 weeks after it launched over here!

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/778/778589p1.html

Surely not a sign its selling well. If it were flying off the shelves theyd have no motivation to sell it cheaper so it must not be going well for Sony over here.

On a side note I went to the Game site earlier (biggest UK videogame retailer) top banner was a banner saying that Wiis were back in stock.

Below they had a banner saying the PS3 was out now, no signs of having to preorder for the next batch like they were doing after the Wii launch over here.

So I think that shows the PS3 isn't doing very well over here in the UK overall.

Kairon · « **Reply #1795 on:** April 06, 2007, 08:18:21 AM »

Glad to hear it, because the UK Software charts have ALWAYS looked quite hardcore and Sony centric when I've seen them. It's like... Sonyland over there!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

redgiemental · « **Reply #1796 on:** April 07, 2007, 04:38:51 AM »

You know thats true, everyone I know over here has a PS2. Myself included I got it free when my brother moved to Canada though and the only game I've bought for it was Ico. Mainly because I hate the controller so I try to get versions on other systems where possible.

But yes for the last tow generations its been very much Sonyland over here. Hopefully that will change and it looks like it is now.

capamerica · « **Reply #1797 on:** April 07, 2007, 06:57:42 AM »

Looks like even Sony is axing the 20GB model from their store now.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/04/06/20gb-ps3-discontinued-from-sonys-official-store/

I don't get why Sony doesn't see this as a HUGE mistake. By removing the $500 model and only offering the $600 model they're are only making a Larger gap between them and the Xbox360 and Wii.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1798 on:** April 07, 2007, 08:59:58 AM »

You have to be unique to be a loser that stands out.

Ceric · « **Reply #1799 on:** April 09, 2007, 06:28:20 AM »

By the time you reason out spending $500 dollaring the extra $100 doesn't seem that much. Especially for the HDMI and Wireless. Shoot the Wireless makes it worth it if your lazy, not technically inclined, or don't won't to run cords to your Living room.

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