Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 869149 times)

MaryJane · « **Reply #1750 on:** March 27, 2007, 02:45:58 AM »

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DS cards are, in fact, just SD cards backwards.

that made me laugh out loud out loud.

Fixed!

capamerica · « **Reply #1751 on:** March 28, 2007, 01:43:15 AM »

you know its interesting you keep hearing about how the PS3 broke the record for system launch in Europe with selling 165,000 units but there are a few things people seem to leave out.
First the PS3 is still in stock almost every where in Europe, the system even thou having the "best" launch wasn't able to sell out unlike the Wii and Xbox360.
Second after launch the PS3 hasn't sold to many more units to move it past the 165,000 mark. Unlike the Wii and Xbox360 in which the Xbox360 sold 300,000 by the end of their first 2 days and the Wii sold 325,000 during their first two days.

Hmm.. I wonder why no one is reporting this?

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #1752 on:** March 28, 2007, 02:01:32 AM »

If North America was made up with as many countries as Europe is, I'm sure this would be a fair comparison.

Ghisy · « **Reply #1753 on:** March 28, 2007, 04:26:35 AM »

Meh, I'm sure Sony gave journalists the SHIPPED numbers of systems once again instead of the SOLD numbers.
They do it all the freaking time! and people buy it. Sad.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1754 on:** March 28, 2007, 05:22:06 AM »

Those numbers are too low for being shipped numbers considering just how many of these are in stock everywhere.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #1755 on:** March 28, 2007, 07:27:53 AM »

According to this article Sony shipped 1 million PS3's to Europe and sold 600,000 of them.

But when you consider that Sony sold over 42 million PS2's in Europe and dominated that territory last gen, the fact that they only sold 60% of their PS3 shipments at launch is actually quite bad. Plus everyone has to remember that at launch the die hard fans are always going to buy it right away. Just look at what happend here in America were we had riots and people killing each other for a PS3 right away, but then less then 2 months later, you could walk into your local Best Buy and see a pile of over 20 PS3 that haven't even been touched yet.

So these early sales mean nothing, and considering how expensive the PS3 is in Europe, I see it's sales dropping very quickly.

Ceric · « **Reply #1756 on:** March 28, 2007, 07:32:50 AM »

I wish I would have posted it but there was an article where Sony was explaining why the PS3 was more expensive in the UK. It eventually Digresses to blaming the US for being large and cheap. I wish I know where that was...

MaryJane · « **Reply #1757 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:00:59 AM »

I think Sony is dead in the water.

I also think it's still a little early to say that though. If Sony can keep Final Fantasy exclusive, and pay for some more exclusives they have the potential to comeback enough to survive until next generation.

Come to think of it, what if doesn't get better for Sony? Would they really pull out of give it one go? Not to turn this into a poll, but I'm wondering what your opinions are.

Louieturkey · « **Reply #1758 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:49:45 PM »

Sony's too stubborn to give up anything. Hence why you can still buy blank Beta cassettes for video recording purposes in some low budget tv studios. They also still sell MDs even those were DOA. So I expect them in this for at least two or three more generations (and they'd all have to be bad) before even thinking about calling it quits.

vudu · « **Reply #1759 on:** March 29, 2007, 05:44:34 AM »

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Sony's too stubborn to give up anything. Hence why you can still buy blank Beta cassettes for video recording purposes in some low budget tv studios. They also still sell MDs even those were DOA. So I expect them in this for at least two or three more generations (and they'd all have to be bad) before even thinking about calling it quits.

It's not quite the same thing. Beta cassettes and Mini Discs have already been created. The R&D costs have already been incurred and the additional cost to Sony to continue support them is (a) minimal and (b) small compared to the ill will that could potentially be created by early adopters who purchased these products.

With this rationale you could argue that Sony will continue to support the PS3 no matter how much of a failure it is but you can't argue that Sony will spend billions of dollars on R&D for the PS4 is the PS3 isn't successful.

Adrock · « **Reply #1760 on:** March 29, 2007, 07:11:38 AM »

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With this rationale you could argue that Sony will continue to support the PS3 no matter how much of a failure it is but you can't argue that Sony will spend billions of dollars on R&D for the PS4 is the PS3 isn't successful.

Exactly. If not for complete and utter exhaustion, I would've posted something just like this (except much longer and with more grammatical errors) last night.

See the difference between Nintendo and every other console maker that has been dead last is that Nintendo is the only company smart enough to employ business model favors profitability. Spend less and make more. Sony can only make money on the Playstation brand if it's manhandling the competition. As a developer/publisher, Nintendo sales are consistently high and they spend considerably less money on development than other companies do. If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense, son.

If Sony doesn't start making some headway with PS3 in the next few years, I expect one of two things: either they go third party or they sell off their gaming assets. I'd lean more toward the latter. Still, that's if PS3 continues to sell as dismally as it has, which honestly, I don't believe will be the case. I think there will be a PS4, but Nintendo has leveled the playing field a bit. Coming off a strong 4-5 year cycle, I'm looking forward to seeing how Nintendo will fare with an HD-enabled Wii successor and how they can top that controller.

Ceric · « **Reply #1761 on:** March 29, 2007, 08:16:15 AM »

Agreed. Though it always seems that Nintendo is always doing R&D. I can't believe that Nintendo isn't making any money on the side from it, licenses and the like. I also see Sony trying to give the PS3 a very long lifecycle of 8-10 years. Considering what MS and Nintendo does that may be viable.

stevey · « **Reply #1762 on:** March 29, 2007, 08:54:52 AM »

The history of the PS3 "spider-man" font

"If you really look at the PS3 contour carefully, it is rounded when viewing the console in profile. Rather than creating a typography with all the risks that entails, it was wiser to use the one from Spider-Man, for which Sony has the rights."

Risk? Sound like Kutaragi scared of being original....

ShyGuy · « **Reply #1763 on:** March 29, 2007, 09:13:03 AM »

Kutaragi is always orginal! Look at the dulashock, the sixaxis, Sony @Home..

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1764 on:** March 29, 2007, 11:04:12 AM »

Didn't Kutaragi deny that PS3 was using the Spiderman font when asked about it waaay back at the PS3 unveiling?

Adrock · « **Reply #1765 on:** March 29, 2007, 12:13:38 PM »

Maybe it's just me, but that didn't make a lick of sense. What risks?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1766 on:** March 29, 2007, 12:20:49 PM »

Sony takes lots of risks, charging 600$ for a console, using the same controller since the PS1 days, and totally ignoring innovation in favor of "borrowing" other ideas. All those are risks!

MaryJane · « **Reply #1767 on:** March 29, 2007, 01:52:43 PM »

Seriously though, what risks?

Does Times New Roman suddenly switch to Tahoma when it's put on a contoured surface?

Adrock · « **Reply #1768 on:** March 29, 2007, 02:05:07 PM »

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Sony takes lots of risks, charging 600$ for a console, using the same controller since the PS1 days, and totally ignoring innovation in favor of "borrowing" other ideas. All those are risks!

What? I meant, what are the risks of using a different font for PS3?

UERD · « **Reply #1769 on:** March 29, 2007, 03:11:37 PM »

If they really wanted to adhere to 'truth in advertising', they would have done the logo in that creepy font that looks like it's dripping blood.

Blue Plant · « **Reply #1770 on:** March 29, 2007, 03:20:05 PM »

Hmm... It's a keeper!

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1771 on:** March 30, 2007, 10:06:48 AM »

I guess the "risk" would be paying money for someone to develop a new font...which is one way to save a few bucks, but in the grand scheme it probably didn't do Sony that much good.

I think Sony will make another attempt after PS3 unless PS3 really tanks...like never sells more than it does now. Will it ever do better? I think so, but who knows for sure?

capamerica · « **Reply #1772 on:** April 03, 2007, 05:32:31 AM »

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PlayStation 3 hardware sales plummet 82 per cent
Sales of the PlayStation 3 have dropped dramatically on the second week of release in the UK, with official Chart Track figures revealing a fall of 82 per cent.

Chart Track data is gathered from 7000 UK retail outlets representing 90 per cent of the software market, including GAME, Gamestation, Play.com, Asda and HMV.

A spokesperson for Chart Track confirmed the figure to GamesIndustry.biz this afternoon, stating: "Yes, sales of PS3 hardware have dropped by 82 per cent."

Last week, Chart Track revealed that the PlayStation 3 had sold 165,000 units in the first two days following the launch, making it the fastest-selling home console in the UK.

"We publish the first week figures because there's such a clamour for them that we can't keep it a secret," said the spokesperson.

This week's software charts revealed that sales of the top two PlayStation 3 titles, Resistance: Fall of Man and MotorStorm, had dropped by over 60 per cent.

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe declined to comment.

I sooo saw this coming!
Pretty much everyone who wanted a PS3 bought it the week it came out.
Lets see how Sony spins this to make it look good on them. Just like how they spun the fact that the PS3 didn't sell out in the UK.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #1773 on:** April 03, 2007, 05:53:37 AM »

And now Sony is failing in all three major markets. Unless Sony suddenly drops the price to something that's actually affordable, then they're pretty much screwed. Funny how just a few years ago the so called "experts" thought that Sony would continue to dominate and that this would be Nintendo's last generation.

But now it's Nintendo who's doing the dominating and with all the money Sony's losing, this could end up being their last gen.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1774 on:** April 03, 2007, 06:04:10 AM »

So that means that Sony went from 165,000 at launch to just 33,000 the week after.
How long do you think it will take Sony to sell out of the initial 1million launch units that it has already delivered to stores? With the UK being the best selling sector for the PS3, I would imagine a whole lot of pissed of retailers across Europe right now.

I also see UK Resistance having a field day with this one.

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