Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 810178 times)

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1600 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:08:17 AM »

It is not a matter of which is better, he said SNES had better games, thats NOT FACT, thats opinion. In MY Opionion the Genesis HAD the better games. I dont discredit the *FEW* good SNES games, but i *STILL* prefere the majority of Genesis games over the SNES games. It is not BETTER in any way shape or form, just more popular and more liked. That was what I meant.

dI never said ANYTHING about cpabilities, which I wont get into, because they both have strengths an weakneses. *THIS* is a Nintendo site so its obvious more people here like Nintendo, BUT that doesnt mean people 8can't* liek Sega more than Nintendo, I actually like them both pretty equally to be HONEST, but I ALWAYS HAVE and ALWAYS WILL tink Genesis had the better library, NOTHING will change that. Ia ctually *like* a lot of the games other people here don't and I *HATE* a lot of the popular SNES games. Why is that so hard to understand, it is ALL PESONAL PREFERNCE NOT FACT, so accept it.

Ghisy · « **Reply #1601 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:22:11 AM »

SNES was just better, get over it

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1602 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:29:14 AM »

To get back on topic for just a quick second....

Only 10,000 PSP units "shipped" last fall, Retailers are not happy and say that...

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Something needs to happen with the PSP, ASAP.

That's the message retailers have, according to our sources, sent Sony. With sales of the PSP lagging (Sony's PSP hardware shipments to retailers last Fall were down 72 percent over the year before, only a meager 10,000 units in the U.S.), word is that a few big name retailers have given Sony a mandate: drop the price or they'll drop the system from their stores. Entirely. With shelf space at a premium, the expectation is for Sony to do something substantial to keep its hardware moving -- or else.

Coming up on the second anniversary of the PSP (March 24th), a price drop seems possible -- after all, the price was lowered by $50 two days before its first anniversary last year. But according to Sony, that's not yet in the cards. Speaking with John Koller, the Senior Marketing Manager for the PSP, at the Game Developers Conference last week, 1UP learned that a price drop was not announced to retailers at Sony's Destination PlayStation retailer event last week.

But something else was....

Rest of the story at the link

I know we heard about the 10k PSPs before, but now the retailers are threatening to pull support if Sony doesn't do something about lagging sales? I'm pretty sure this has more to do with software than hardware as they only get a very small profit on the hardware itself. I'm sure they are more concerened about the software cause thats where they make their most profit. PSP systems are actually selling decently in most regions, but no one buys the games. I'm not sure how Sony plans on fixing that since everytime they do a firmware update, it gets cracked in mere hours.

Arbok · « **Reply #1603 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:48:42 AM »

Going from that link, it never fails to amaze me how some people pick to dissect a piece of news, and come off as totally clueless. Case in point:

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After stunning the world with home they are gonna drop the psps price and release a new version. Man oh man sony is making my day

And then of course there are just those comments that make you do a double take:

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There have been a TON of comments stating Sony needs to distance itself from their PlayStation (2) model of gaming. Well, that's the catch right? A system as powerful as this should do things closer in caliber to that of its home-console brother right? .... Is Nintendo doing much to separate it's Wii experience from that of the DS...not really. Most of their Wii games feel like glorified DS titles so why isn't anyone complaining on this front?

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1604 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:53:21 AM »

Die Sony, die. It's German for The Sony, the.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #1605 on:** March 15, 2007, 07:09:18 AM »

lol lol

Khushrenada · « **Reply #1606 on:** March 15, 2007, 07:31:23 AM »

The quote I found interesting for this article would have to be this:

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ppl here don't see how this can turn into a good thing. Look at Nokia's N-Gage. While not entirely successful at first, the redesign looks promising. Mark my words, Sony and Nokia will be leading the handheld race within months... you'll see.

I can only hope the person who posted that was joking but you never can tell with some of these PSP fans.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1607 on:** March 15, 2007, 07:39:56 AM »

Daily Show can't even secure this kind of comedy.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1608 on:** March 15, 2007, 09:29:34 AM »

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Originally posted by: Khushrenada I can only hope the person who posted that was joking but you never can tell with some of these PSP fans.

I'm just going to go ahead and dub that sarcasm.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1609 on:** March 15, 2007, 09:45:46 AM »

So does that mean PSP will finaly begin its death march? If so I am happy.

Arbok · « **Reply #1610 on:** March 15, 2007, 10:03:00 AM »

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So does that mean PSP will finaly begin its death march? If so I am happy.

I honestly doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the handheld getting smaller store space allotments due to this.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1611 on:** March 15, 2007, 12:34:17 PM »

well a small victory is still a victory.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1612 on:** March 15, 2007, 06:54:57 PM »

I wouldn't be surprised if the PSP dropping might be related to the sheer number of discs you have to put on a shelf to cover that thing because of the UMD videos. The PSP had more shelf than the DS or Wii most of the time here simply because the UMD videos bloat the section. That's a lot of space taken up and if software sales are that abysmal it'd make sense to drop the PSP's shelf space entirely like most did with the GC.

Ceric · « **Reply #1613 on:** March 16, 2007, 04:11:55 AM »

When are they going to release that even more Gizmoed PSP I've heard rumors about?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1614 on:** March 16, 2007, 06:06:10 AM »

When retailers stop complaining that PSPs don't sell.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1615 on:** March 17, 2007, 02:08:30 AM »

gotta love UK Resistance

"It's official - the PS3 is cheaper than the combined price of two more expensive things. It's certainly food for thought."

The Sony spin machine is working quadruple overtime to prepare for the European launch.

Biased UKR p.o.v. or not, its all still really funny.

and specialty retailer Game continues to not help the situation

Game spreading more FUD out of desperation?

PS3 backwards compatible with 100% of all PS2 & PS1 games? Even with the PS2 inside, Sony only claimed 98% BC, how does it get to 100% through software, especially when it rumored to only support 1000(+/-) titles at launch?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1616 on:** March 17, 2007, 02:44:13 AM »

They'll be eaten for breakfast by the ASA for that "fully backwards compatible" claim.

Also I love how Sony insists on comparing the price with something that includes every single feature of the PS3 rather than just the ones people care about (reminds me of how some Mac fanboy here defended the price of Apple's PCs).

EDIT: Oh, look

capamerica · « **Reply #1617 on:** March 18, 2007, 04:15:39 AM »

In a story from Joystiq it seems that the hard evidence is starting to flow in that retailers have had about enough from the PS3's 20GB model. A Best Buy employee sent Joystiq a printout from their computer system showing the status of the 20GB model as "discontinued." Joystiq confirmed the printout information by contacting three separate stores. This does not mean the 20GB PS3 model's production has been discontinued -- just that Best Buy will no longer carry it.

When Joystiq spoke with Sony's David Karraker earlier this week he told them that, "Overwhelmingly, retailers have been requesting the 60GB model, the mix has been about 80 percent 60GB, 20 percent 20GB retailer orders." With Best Buy's decision to no longer carry the unit, a major retailer has walked away from the 20GB table, obviously the margins were better on the 60GB model. Sony says they are still producing 20GB models.

Intresting enought Sony loese the most money on the 20GB model, Sony also desided to not release a 20GB model in the UK. So one has to think if Sony may have been nugeing Retailers into dropping the model.

This also makes a LARGER gap between the PS3 and the Xbox360. Why Drop $600 on a PS3 when you can get a Xbox 360 Premium for $400.

darknight06 · « **Reply #1618 on:** March 18, 2007, 06:20:49 AM »

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This also makes a LARGER gap between the PS3 and the Xbox360. Why Drop $600 on a PS3 when you can get a Xbox 360 Premium for $400.

Final Fantasy XIII? Actually that's a good question...

Arbok · « **Reply #1619 on:** March 18, 2007, 06:28:06 AM »

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Final Fantasy XIII?

$5 says, if it doesn't go multi-console, that FFXIII will become the Ocarina of Time of this generation: the system's owners will eat it up, but it will be released far too late to impact the momentum already established in the industry.

Ceric · « **Reply #1620 on:** March 18, 2007, 10:25:02 AM »

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Final Fantasy XIII?

$5 says, if it doesn't go multi-console, that FFXIII will become the Ocarina of Time of this generation: the system's owners will eat it up, but it will be released far too late to impact the momentum already established in the industry.

I could definitely see that. I could also see that being the game that is the first to actually eat up all the space available on a Blu-Ray disc and require a second one. (Which would make it a monster even compared to ANY PC software.)

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1621 on:** March 18, 2007, 10:44:38 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ceric
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Final Fantasy XIII?

$5 says, if it doesn't go multi-console, that FFXIII will become the Ocarina of Time of this generation: the system's owners will eat it up, but it will be released far too late to impact the momentum already established in the industry.

I could definitely see that. I could also see that being the game that is the first to actually eat up all the space available on a Blu-Ray disc and require a second one. (Which would make it a monster even compared to ANY PC software.)

Yeah usually PC games rely more on gameplay to fill up space instead of FMVs. Oh wait did I say that outloud?

Ceric · « **Reply #1622 on:** March 18, 2007, 11:34:56 AM »

Well actually I used "ANY PC software" because I was including such things as OS's and commercial software. Which can be big when fully fleshed out. But actually know that I think about it if they use multiple Blu-Ray discs that would be more the my lab image, which is around 30 gigs, which is chopped full of all the software I could find to put on it that would be useful.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1623 on:** March 18, 2007, 11:47:19 AM »

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Well actually I used "ANY PC software" because I was including such things as OS's and commercial software. Which can be big when fully fleshed out. But actually know that I think about it if they use multiple Blu-Ray discs that would be more the my lab image, which is around 30 gigs, which is chopped full of all the software I could find to put on it that would be useful.

Ah ok, you I still doubt that the new FF game will use the full disk, if it does, I bet with alittle compression (maybe even to the point where you hardly see any difference) it could go on Xbox 360 whether it be 1 or 2 DVDs.

capamerica · « **Reply #1624 on:** March 18, 2007, 01:13:28 PM »

I still highly dought that FFXIII will use a full Blu-Ray disc. Square never made a Final Fantasy game that used more then 1 DVD, hell Final Fantasy XII wasn't even on a Dual Layer DVD the game was under 4GB, Had FFXII been on 2 DVDs or on a Dual Layer disc I would say that there is a chance we could see FFXIII use a full Blu-Ray disc. But it didn't and I think its highly unlikley.

I think its a safe bet that FFXIII will be small enough that we could see a version on the Xbox360 and I would even be willing to bet it would be small enough to fit on a Dual Layer DVD.

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