Topic: Possible double-disc Zelda for Europe

[Ceric]

I think it's more of a security issue.  You only want x amount of well secured master copies.  The more master copies out the more security risk.


Literally $90 dollars?  So if you worked a full man month of 160 hours you make around 56 cents an hour. But on the flipside $40 for living expenses...  I spend just on bills $554 food at least another $100... so $654 that 16.35 times more so I should make around $1471.5 to stay equivalent... Thats 357 hours... I make $659.20 working full time 1 month minimum wage.  Lord Porportionally you make $812.30 more than I do if everything cost like living expenses.  I live somewhere cheap.  So if everything was proportioned the same then games should be around 3 bucks.  Talk about a price difference.

[KDR_11k]

Well region code isnt a poblem because we are in the same region as US, which makes possible for many original copies of the games to be available at more normal prices, of course such copies never entered the country legally.

Theoretically a company cannot stop people from trading their products around and importing from another country is completely legal. In practice they use technical restrictions and abuse their monopoly power by telling suppliers they won't get more if they don't stop. Nintendo had to pay a 180 million Euro fine for price fixing once. Sony is allowed to prevent PSP "grey imports" by claiming trademark infringement (how they got away with that is beyond me, probably a big bunch of money paid to the judge).

I think it's more of a security issue. You only want x amount of well secured master copies. The more master copies out the more security risk.

If someone has the equiipment to mass produce nonstandard disks he has the equipment to use a copy as the base. The master copy won't be necessary then.

Ceric: Sales tax is at least 15% in Europe, usually a few % more and all prices include tax already (since you have to pay it anyway there is no sane reason to not include it in the price tag). But even taking that into account one Euro buys slightly more than a Dollar so the margins would be the same on 50€ games as on 50$ ones. In fact it's only console games that are so ridiculously expensive.

[Nile Boogie]

I JUST WANT THE DAMN GAME!!!


But really, I'm buying the GCver first even though I'm buying Wii at luanch. I want to play Zelda with A "regular" controller first. I'm not conviced on the whole Wii remote for this Zelda game. Of course if you can play the Wii ver. with the classic controller then I'm good!

[Ceric]

So in Europe 50 Euros is 50 Euros when you go to check out.  It's different in the states.  That's a lot of how, and in Tennessee almost totally make, the State budgets.  Some places food gets exempts and Concession sales are also exempted most places, don't ask me why.  Learn new things everyday.

[Requiem]

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Of course if you can play the Wii ver. with the classic controller then I'm good!

I'm guessing that might be the case.

Or at the very least, you can play it with a gamecube controller.  

[Athrun Zala]

well, right now it isn't near $90 but near $80..... (the minimum by law is 2050 pesos, and since a dollar = 24.75 pesos, it's actually around $82)

and the $40 on expenses per month is because, by law, the minimum wage must be double of the cost of the "canasta familiar" (all the basic things to make it through the month, so to speak ), but it excludes phone, electricity and water bills...

so, that's the reason one must do their best and get through college ^^

[Infernal Monkey]

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NOA...  They couldn't make a decision like that because there working on there next Promo Packaging for Press and getting whipped by NCL.  

Ooooor maybe it's because the GameCube is still alive in America. It's been dead since 2004 in PAL territories.

[Ceric]

I really wouldn't exactly call it lively right now.  Get in you car.  Turn it on.  If its a manual get some momentum hold the clutch and turn off the car.  You've just simulated the Gamecube market.  There just coasting right now.  There isn't much life in it.  Everyones waiting for the next big thing.  Every game is now under the radar that released for it.  I don't know if Baten Kaitos 2 came out yet, I think it did, and I've been waiting for the game.  It's all DS right know and only a trivial Cube marketing.

[Ian Sane]

"Ooooor maybe it's because the GameCube is still alive in America. It's been dead since 2004 in PAL territories."

In North America the Cube's been dead since Resident Evil 4.  So early 2005 instead of 2004.

I'd really like NOA to release Zelda as a double disc but I know they won't because they would rather try to sell two copies of the same game and some people will buy both.  I think the consumer goodwill Nintendo would get from doing such a thing would be worth it but Nintendo's never had a problem with jerking people around for a slightly higher annual profit.  It would make for a smoother transition from Cube to Wii.  Someone who can't afford a Wii yet can buy Zelda now and enjoy it on the Cube and then enjoy it on the Wii when they transfer over on their own schedule.  Having two versions puts pressure on the fanbase to upgrade so that they can get the most out of Zelda.

That's probably part of Nintendo's strategy but I think being nice would make a better first impression.  Nintendo has a reputation for being, well, dickheads and it would be good for their image to reinvent themselves as being user-friendly, particularly when Sony is acting so insane.  But instead it's the usual Nintendo trying to hussle you.  Nintendo should work more on being the "good guy" instead of the lesser of three evils.  Yeah Sony is screwing up and Nintendo could gain a lot of support as a result but the past have shown that just because you have a dominant userbase doesn't mean you have a dominant fanbase.  The second people had a reason to drop Nintendo they did and looks like they might do the same to Sony.  You want your supporters to be fans, not just people who support you because they have little choice.  The only reason Nintendo has survived is because they have real fans, so why not be more user-friendly and gain some more?

[KDR_11k]

Nintendo's never had a problem with jerking people around for a slightly higher annual profit.

I think they do because otherwise they'd be like EA or MS.