Author Topic: GTA: Would it sell? (Read 25944 times)

BoMbErMaN123 · « **on:** March 02, 2003, 03:50:02 PM »

I know that by next year that the grand theft auto series will be able to go on the XBOX and GC. My question is, would the series sell on the Gamecube? I think it could, but then again, I also believed that Super Mario Sunshine could of sold a lot more...

Ymeegod · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2003, 03:55:28 PM »

Sony can renew the policy though.

Kinda like DMC only had a one year exclusive rights for.

Mario · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2003, 04:00:13 PM »

How much did you expect Super Mario Sunshine to sell, jeez, its already sold over million in the USA and in Japan and is at over 3.5 million worldwide after being released only for a matter of months, Super Mario Sunshine is selling incredibly well, its worldwide sales surpass Halo. Anyway, of course GTA will sell on Gamecube, its a good game and good games sell on Gamecube, nuff said!

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Kinda like DMC only had a one year exclusive rights for.

hmmmm.... tell me more...

willys85 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 02, 2003, 04:07:28 PM »

Are you sure that GTA is coming to GameCube, because the contract for the GTA exclusive only for the PS2 has two more years to end

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2003, 04:16:57 PM »

The contract runs out at the end of 2004. So even so, you wouldn't see a GTA game on GameCube till late 2005. Also, unless it was exclusive, it wouldn't shift units. It would sell, yes, but it wouldn't cause any casual gamers to get excited in GC if they can play it on their PS2, Xbox or download (boo!) a copy for PC.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 02, 2003, 04:28:13 PM »

exactly it still amazes me how many gomasses purchased a ps2 for gta3 or vc.....come on u muppets do your research there is a little machine called a pc which 95 percen of the popluation have.......i swear to u, despite being a flaming american, the people that i live with in the country are down right stupid. i dont even know how we could be a super power. i bet if hollywood wanted to they could make most americans think terrorism was a good idea and that we should just sit here and like being bombed......enough americans have accepted it already......damn i am sick of all the stupids walking around.

Mikey · « **Reply #6 on:** March 02, 2003, 04:40:43 PM »

I wouldn't buy it. GTA is a good game but Rockstar is just gettign lucky with a good idea. GTA:VC has alot of glitches and doesn't take much advantage of the PS2 hardware(what there is to take advantage of at least

). Don't get me wrong, I played GTA: VC for tons of hours at my friends, but I believe in the other hands of another developer, this idea could be executed properly.

The Omen · « **Reply #7 on:** March 02, 2003, 04:43:45 PM »

come on u muppets do your research there is a little machine called a pc which 95 percen of the popluation have

Exactly why I have a cube, cant get these games anywhere. The other systems best games are available on pc. [gta3,gtavc,halo,']

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2003, 04:49:15 PM »

Personally, I don't think it would sell well on GameCube at all. (Or at least I HOPE it wouldn't).

GameCube has a stigma attached to it whether we like it or not, and regardless of truth value. The average joe thinks that GameCube is for kids, and doesn't have any clue otherwise. That leaves GameCube with a split demographic.

1) Young kids who's parents buy them the console for all ages.
2) Nintendo fans who buy the console because they love Nintendo's games and core philosophy.
3) Hardcore gamers who know the greatness that GameCube possesses.
4) Older gamers who value Nintendo's franchises and/or exclusive titles.
5) Rich people who buy every console regardless.

Now, let's figure out who would buy GTA3 from those groups.

1) Nope. Self explanatory.
2) I would hope that most of us wouldn't care to buy the game. I find the game downright insulting personally, as there is little to no gameplay involved. Just violence and other novelties. The video game equivalent of Eminem.
3) Hardcore gamers can go either way. But let's face it, GTA is focused more on the average gamer kind of person.
4) Liking Nintendo's 1st party games usually implies that gameplay and fun factor are your primary concerns when selecting a game. IMO, GTA doesn't possess much of either of these qualities.
5) No doubt they will buy the game. It does get high scores after all.

CrYpTiC · « **Reply #9 on:** March 02, 2003, 05:06:52 PM »

I would definetly get GTA, and I know it would sell. It would actually sell GameCubes. For one, all the people that are unsure about getting one because the PS2 has GTA will now get a GC. All my friends say "I would get a cube but it doesnt have gta". Secondly it would add to the GameCubes excellent gaming library. It would be a must have game.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #10 on:** March 02, 2003, 05:08:35 PM »

6) People who won't get a GameCube because it doesn't have GTA

Obviously these people would be more inclined to get a GameCube if it had GTA. However, they might just as easily say that they won't get a GameCube because it doesn't have Sega Sports or something like that.

Mario · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2003, 05:39:07 PM »

Actually now that i think about it, with Super Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Pikmin, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Sonic, Metal Gear Solid, Mario Kart, Star Wars etc. + Grand Theft Auto, gamers would have no excuse NOT to buy a Gamecube. All we need is GTA...

Link · « **Reply #12 on:** March 02, 2003, 05:46:15 PM »

You can bet I wouldn't buy it. I downloaded the ISO from a friends FTP site, and still haven't played it to this day.
I played GTA and VC on another frinds PS2, and I can't believe how boring it was. I'd rather go fishing in Animal Crossing.

Slab · « **Reply #13 on:** March 02, 2003, 06:56:00 PM »

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1) Young kids who's parents buy them the console for all ages.

1) Nope. Self explanatory.
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Actually if the young kids buy their own games, then yes I think they will buy GTA. Young kids seem to love anything with a "M" rating on it. It's the "forbidden fruit syndrome". Adults on the other hand seem to treasure value more.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #14 on:** March 02, 2003, 07:29:55 PM »

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1) Young kids who's parents buy them the console for all ages.

1) Nope. Self explanatory.
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Actually if the young kids buy their own games, then yes I think they will buy GTA. Young kids seem to love anything with a "M" rating on it. It's the "forbidden fruit syndrome". Adults on the other hand seem to treasure value more.

Yes, I realize that the teen group would want the game, and just might be able to get a copy, but I was actually referring to the younger ones. Most teens I know would rather have an Xbox or PS2, as they are more "cool", and less "kiddie". They aren't mature enough to know how immature they are.

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #15 on:** March 02, 2003, 07:52:15 PM »

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2) I would hope that most of us wouldn't care to buy the game. I find the game downright insulting personally, as there is little to no gameplay involved. Just violence and other novelties. The video game equivalent of Eminem.

You know, if you sat down and spent time with GTA III/Vice City, you would discover there's more to it than simply hacking into people with blades or shooting them whilst down. This is what the media would have you believe the game is, a simple game with no gameplay that mutates todays youth into killing machines.

It has depth. Alot of it.
Saying GTA is all about killing people for fun is the same as saying GoldenEye was all about pumping round after round into people as they fell lifeless to the ground, which is not true.
The gameplay is right up there with the best. People just don't give it a real chance and label it a gore game for casual gamers. Sure, that's what the majority of casual gamers bought it for, to shoot old people and such. But it offers a severe challenge to the let's say, 'real' gamer.

The amount of varied missions is just plain mind blowing, from stealing a sea plane to drop junk mail all over the city (Which actually stays around for the rest of the game) to jumping from roof to to rooftop via a moterbike in order to tilt a light to display advertising for a porno film. There's much more than originally meets the eye.

I believe the GTA series would make a great addition to the CG library, and those who refuse to play it due to what the media tells them, and the fact that it's popular with casual gamers are missing out on one of the greatest 3D games this generation has to offer.

SilverBack1138 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 02, 2003, 08:12:26 PM »

Actually I could really care less if any GTA game comes to the GCN. Don't get me wrong, they are good games and they are fun, but I'm not really into them. I have a PS2 and I do have GTA 3 for my PC, but I'm just not into them like everyone seems to be. I'm more interested in getting Square Enix and Konami games for the GCN.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #17 on:** March 02, 2003, 08:21:06 PM »

I think it's what the media has said that has led people to buy this game.
"This game is the most violent!"
"You can pick up and kill prostitutes!"
"You can run over anyone!"

Stuff like that. But statements like these have been taken out of context millions of times. These things are said usually to criticise the game. Not advertise it. Advertising that you can pick up prostitutes and kill them in a game would put people off. Sure, there would be the people that defend it, like Acclaim for BMX XXX, but it would hurt them. The casual gamer buys this game because of statements like the above. Reminds you of Sony's remarks: "THe PS2 is so powerful, it has enough power to launch a missle".
It's a bit hard to believe that a game like GTA3 has some of the most in-depth gameplay with all that's been said against it, but it is true.

When the casual gamer buys the game, they expect really nothing else except mindless killing and prostitute murdering and car strealing. When they actually find the good gameplay and the exceptional depth it goes into, they automatically divide into three sub-groups. Those that might play the missions, those that will play the missions and get bored and go back to mindless killing and driving around, and those that don't do the missions at all and only do the mindless killing and driving around.
When I first played the game, I was the third group. When I actually sat down and played in on the PC (At the Netbang Internet Cafe in Bankstown), I found quite interesting. I had no sound, and didnt really get what they were saying, but it was pretty enjoyable, for a game like that.

If it comes out on Gamecube, whether it is a remake of GTA3/VC or a completely new game (GTA4), then I'll buy it.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2003, 08:38:02 PM »

i played gta3 and vc, and at 1st gta3 was cool, but after a while the idea got old. not to mention, i dont think that vc is that great. there is lots they could do to improve the game, but i dont think gta is great at all. i think driver 3 and some of these other gta killers will be better. i think its shallow gameplay and i hope gta4 really improves on the franchise.

Mario · « **Reply #19 on:** March 02, 2003, 09:51:20 PM »

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Actually I could really care less if any GTA game comes to the GCN. Don't get me wrong, they are good games and they are fun, but I'm not really into them.

Um...... right...... So, u could care less about it, but your not into it... WTF!?

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StRaNgE · « **Reply #20 on:** March 02, 2003, 10:09:40 PM »

i loved river and driver 2 and gta 3 and vice city take it to the next level with an amazing amount of game play and limitless things and missions. i would pick them up for sure.

joeyjojo · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2003, 12:57:54 AM »

man. theres alot of fanboy gangsta sh*t goin on in here!
gta's a great game man!

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2003, 01:15:01 AM »

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come on u muppets do your research there is a little machine called a pc which 95 percen of the popluation have..

What about the people who cant stand playing games on a pC?
I would much rather play on a 36 inch tv than a freaking monitor, and I would much rather be sitting on my sofa.

So before you start calling people stupid, remember this. Not everyone is a 14 year old. I sit a PC from 7 am to 8 pm most days working, so the last thing I feel like doing is sitting at it while I relax.

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i bet if hollywood wanted to they could make most americans think terrorism was a good idea and that we should just sit here and like being bombed......enough americans have accepted it already......damn i am sick of all the stupids walking around.

And you are sick of the STUPIDS? talk about irony.
Do you have a car, do you pay for gas? Do you know anything about the current situation in the Middle East? Do you know what a war will do to your counrties economy as well the effect it will have on world balance from a peace standpoint?
I doubt you know much of anything.
Go back and watch your Nascar.

Tael · « **Reply #23 on:** March 03, 2003, 02:25:50 AM »

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gta's a great game man!

Because you say so, huh? Did you ever think some people might have got bored with the GTA series after GTA2? The games are pretty much all the same. People talk about how it's disappointing that sports games like Madden have minimal upgrades in each new game, GTA is the same really.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #24 on:** March 03, 2003, 03:31:08 AM »

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You know, if you sat down and spent time with GTA III/Vice City, you would discover there's more to it than simply hacking into people with blades or shooting them whilst down.

I've played both, I have both, I've finished both, and what I can tell you is, IMO, the only thing more it has is stealing cars and driving people over.

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