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Offline Nile Boogie

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...and so there's part 3.
« on: June 27, 2006, 01:21:40 PM »
The Trailer

Unless this movie is going to be 4hours long the trailer already screams part 4. I don't mind as long as they keep doing a good job on them then Sony can make this the 6 part series it needs to be.
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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 01:51:34 PM »
Also there was talk that this may be the first major studio release that goes to the thearter and DVD the same day.  By Sumnmer 2008, all movies will come out on DVD/Blu-Ray/HDvD/Hvd or direct off of Bittorrent the same day.
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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2006, 02:15:31 PM »
"Also there was talk that this may be the first major studio release that goes to the thearter and DVD the same day."

What a great idea!  Kill off the theatre industry for good!

I hope for their sake no studio is honestly considering such an idea.  Right now they have a system that gets people paying for a movie twice.  The biggest advantage to seeing a move in theatre is not having to wait as long to see it.  That above all else is why, since the invention of the VCR, movie theatres still exist.  Yes there is a social atmosphere to theatres and the big screen and sound is better than most people's home setup but I think that's the biggest reason for most people.  If they release both on the same day then box office sales will go down.  My parents for example would NEVER see any film in theatre ever again.  My Dad loves renting movies because he can pause it and sit in his chair and the whole family can see the movie for half the price of one movie ticket.  He sees films in theatre only when he doesn't want to wait.  He doesn't have as good of a screen or sound setup as the theatre but it's good enough for him.

When I think about it the game industry lost out on some major potential revenue by abandoning arcades.  Although there has always been games designed specifically for home consoles until the 3D era games had a similar setup to films.  A game came out in the arcades and the home release came later.  Even after console hardware caught up to arcade hardware this setup could have kept arcades alive because people would have gladly paid for the priviledge to play the game early in the arcade.  Having an exclusivity period is a great little scam and the film industry would be fools to ruin it.

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RE:...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2006, 02:31:54 PM »
eh. You can't screw people forever. People want to watch movies in their homes. Theatre ticket sales are declining as dvd sales are rising. Meanwhile, studios are still paying ridiculous amounts of money to market films to consumers twice.

Same day home video release is an inevitability.

...that doesn't necessarily mean theatres have to go out of business. The most sensible route, as others, elsewhere, have suggested (and, in the case of Soderbergh's 'Bubble', implemented) is to charge a ridiculous amount of money for the DVD at first, and then drop the price of the DVD over time. That way, people can pay 8 bucks to see it in a theatre, then, if they like it, buy the movie for forty dollars, in the theatre, on their way out. Or they can wait several months and but the dvd at Target for a normal price.

edit: as for Spiderman 3, I am excited, but perhaps not as excited as I would be if the Spiderman 3 logo wasn't linked in my mind with the PlayStation 3.
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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2006, 03:02:03 PM »
Woah...so this means that DVD Prices... (or Bluray prices, if Sony has its way) will go...UP?!?!?!

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RE:...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2006, 03:05:42 PM »
if that happens i'll probably just get those dvd's (unless, like someone suggested, they were overpriced).

whats the most a dvd could cost me on day one? $20?

i only go see movies in theatres when a large group of friends wants to go, i hate theatres otherwise, so if i had the alternative to split $20 with say, atleast 3 other friends, i'd go for it. it would be half the cost of a ticket and im lucky enough to have atleast one friend with a big screen tv and a good sound system.

know what else? no more annoying teens working the registers while paying for the ticket, asking for ID if you pay with a bill that is $50 or over, no more annoying cashiers giving me dirty looks for no reason when i asks for popcorn or a drink, or when i ask them to hold on while i get the exact change. no more looking for seats in a crowded theatre on opening day or assh*les that don't shut up, babys that won't stop crying, people getting up and walking in front of you, blurry screens, bad sound or trying to demand a refund for those last two reasons then getting a "free admission" ticket instead, only to be denied when you do return to the theatre for some lame excuse they made up two seconds before they see you pull out the readmission ticket because everyone who works there is a jerk. oh yeah and no more hastle for parking.

yeah i'd just by the dvd on day one. if anything i would see MORE movies that way, since theres always a movie that comes out that not too many of my friends want to see and i hate going to theatres alone. atleast if i go with a group i can slightly ignore all those problems mentioned above.  
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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 04:56:28 PM »
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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 05:27:23 PM »
my doubt here is if spiderman 3 can scape from the curse of the awful third sequel that seems to affect most comic films, it happened to batman, superman and to some extend to x-men.

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RE:...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2006, 07:40:42 PM »
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Same day home video release is an inevitability.

...that doesn't necessarily mean theatres have to go out of business. The most sensible route, as others, elsewhere, have suggested (and, in the case of Soderbergh's 'Bubble', implemented) is to charge a ridiculous amount of money for the DVD at first, and then drop the price of the DVD over time. That way, people can pay 8 bucks to see it in a theatre, then, if they like it, buy the movie for forty dollars, in the theatre, on their way out. Or they can wait several months and but the dvd at Target for a normal price.

This is exactly what I was thinking, only I think they will go more ridiculous on the price(look at popcorn prices O_O). I think that they would likely charge something like $60 for the movie and you can only buy it in the theater(possible w/ ticket stub required) and it would include all the trailers that you just saw. Then as the movie nears the end of its theater run it will slowly drop in price to no lower than about $40. Months later you would probably see a in-store release that has all the extras and speical features and retail for a normal price of $20 with a new set of trailers and a different boxart.

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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2006, 09:12:11 PM »
Mantidor, don't forget Blade. Actually, Blade 2 wasn't that hot either..

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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2006, 05:08:20 AM »
First I liked most of the Blades.

Second your right X-Men 3 wasn't bad it was a sin against creation.  Taking a good tried and true story and foundation.  Slicing it up and making it stupid.  It reminds me almost of the Next Generations movies insistant focus on Picard and Data when they show was at it's best when everyone had a part.  

You guys do know why Video rental places get early copies right?  They pay through the roof for each one of those DVD's.  That's why there so paranoid about getting them back.  I heard at one point that VCR, before DVD, copies where like somewhere North of $100.  No thank you.  I'll wait or go to the movies.  Anyway straight to DVD allows me to sort out the junk from the potentially good.

Edit:  Trailer just finished loading.  I was hoping they were going to go a little more traditional route.  He acquire the black suit during the movie.  It give him different powers.  He wouldn't fully realize that it was evil till the end of the movie.  Next Movie would be half him getting rid of the suit and the other half Venom.  But one of the big things was he could just spit out web when he had Venom but in the movies he can do that anyways.  I'm not fully up on my Spidey Lore at the moment.  Feel free to jump in and correct.


Edit 2: IGN Comics "Analysis" of the Trailer  Also I sure hope there wrong.  The only thing I want to see of Venom is his face appearing at the very end and then credits.
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RE:...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2006, 08:24:13 AM »
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First I liked most of the Blades.

Edit 2: IGN Comics "Analysis" of the Trailer  Also I sure hope there wrong.  The only thing I want to see of Venom is his face appearing at the very end and then credits.
I agree with both of those statements, the main thing I didn't like about Blade 3 was all the obvious CG animated fight scenes, there were other things wrong with the movie, but thats the main thing that I remember right now.

As far as Venom, thats is exactly what i said ever since I first heard he would be in Spidey 3. I felt that if anything the movie should be about Spidey aquiring the suit, using the suit, the suit using him and then getting rid of the suit. Spidey would be battling his enemies but realizing that he is starting to take things too far as he is growing increasingly violent as if having roid rages, then he would get rid of the suit, only for the symbiot to create Venom at the end of the movie. If things were to go like that, no matter how bad Spidey 3 turned out everyone would be hyped for Spidey 4.


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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2006, 11:29:14 AM »
Unless it looks to pull an X-Men 3.

Also BlackNMild I like that Shredder pick I just never got around to telling you.
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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2006, 11:45:46 AM »
But I was under the impression that Toby didn't want to do spidey 4,5, and 6. Maybe Spider-Man 4, 5, and 6 will be the anti-trilogy and only focus on Venom and dare I say...Carnage with the climactic battle in part-6 being yummy!!!
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RE: ...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2006, 12:27:04 PM »
They changed Bond, Batman, and Dr. Who, well you can explain Dr. Who.
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RE:...and so there's part 3.
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2006, 04:15:18 PM »
My computer wont let me watch it...

As for the movie, i expect it to be the best of all of them. The director is too wise to make a pile of crap. Only one thing slightly bothers me; If there are too many characters intertwined, and it ends up a little like x-3; But its not a huge concern.
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