Author Topic: Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Read 467907 times)

Ceric · « **Reply #625 on:** June 28, 2006, 05:29:38 AM »

Optional John Madden Commentary. In fact optional Commentary at all. Sometimes I would find commentary from different characters amusing. Other times it would just be distracting me from what's important. (Smashing the snot out of the other guy.)

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #626 on:** June 28, 2006, 08:51:18 AM »

Definately the commentary should be optional. Though, you know it will never happen.

1)Commentary is mostly an American thing...and John Madden won't sound appealing to anyone but us.

2)Brawl seems to be moving into a more sophosticated direction in terms of gameplay, and immersion. The full orchestra music, Opera openning theme. It appears the designers want this game to be a true Opus to all things Nintendo and classic gaming...Commentary of any kind just wouldn't fit in this.

Ceric · « **Reply #627 on:** June 28, 2006, 08:57:56 AM »

I think that's going to be a problem now that you put it that way, #2. I always felt that the series as a whole was lighthearted. Very much so. That was a lot of its charm for me. I was sort of worried about that when I saw the trailer and then I saw the Snake bit and it was hidden for a good while but, I can't help shake the feeling that it's going to go Serious like all the other fighting games of recent. I don't want a serious fighter. That's something I'm not interested in. Fully orchestrated can work fine but I don't want something tragic and I don't want it to turn to a more realistic feel, how weird does that sound... Thinking about the trailer now everything was notably darker. Which tends to mean more moody. As it stands I think I'm at the wait and see stage now.

Edit: Just looking at the count. If we combined the Post count with this threads previous incarnation we got somewhere near 1000 posts. Does that break any forum records?

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #628 on:** June 28, 2006, 09:06:24 AM »

Ceric: Well don't forget it is still Smash Brothers. When I say Grander Atmosphere...I don't think it is going to be serious, mature, or anything like that.

I just believe they are really upping the production values of this thing. Full Orechstra music, slowed down pace of the game, and perhaps much better sound production for all the effects.

It will still have a whimsical feel though. Just look towards Wario's special move, and how they handled Solid Snake being in the game. They took a serious character and was making jokes about him and being in Smash Brothers.

I just don't see the move to commentaries and other items like that.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #629 on:** June 28, 2006, 10:14:33 AM »

I don't see how commentary is an american thing.

They took a serious character and was making jokes about him and being in Smash Brothers.

First Rule of Konami: Konami is never serious.
Second Rule of Konami: Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #630 on:** June 28, 2006, 10:47:24 AM »

KDR: Perhaps.

But, I think the Konami code is the first rule. I love that code. I would put that code in every single game I created, if I created games. It is just absolute brilliant oldskool fun.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #631 on:** June 28, 2006, 11:36:55 AM »

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I don't see how commentary is an american thing.

Ya rly.

"GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!"

MaryJane · « **Reply #632 on:** June 28, 2006, 12:31:02 PM »

I want the guy in my pic to be a character.

It'd be cool to watch his muscles bend and blood flow during special moves... cuz he's skinless.

Other than that... Stewie Griffin.

Better yet, all the Family Guy characters.

Pardon my tardiness if already said.

vudu · « **Reply #633 on:** June 29, 2006, 09:52:47 AM »

Your tardiness has been pardoned. You idiotic suggestions have not.

Requiem · « **Reply #634 on:** June 29, 2006, 10:14:01 AM »

All the Family Guy charachters?!

Even Meg?!

Meg Griffin?!

The worst character on the show, Meg Griffin?!

The character that even the shows' writers make fun of, Meg Griffin?!

The voice of whom is played by that annoying chick from "That 70's show", Meg Griffin?!

Respect -1

Ceric · « **Reply #635 on:** June 29, 2006, 10:42:22 AM »

You know I have to say Meg doesn't get a fair rub. I think she's relatively attractive. Especially compared to any character on American Dad. Her leaving that house will be the best thing for her. Though if think any of the Family guy people made it in then I want to see Transformers, Gi Joes, Ninja Turtles, etc. They have games on the all the systems for the most part.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #636 on:** June 29, 2006, 10:49:07 AM »

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You know I have to say Meg doesn't get a fair rub. I think she's relatively attractive.

Spoilers: Ceric looks up Meg hentai.

:-P

Ceric · « **Reply #637 on:** June 29, 2006, 11:03:33 AM »

Capital Idea. I'll just go and snip off a sec. That belongs in the funhouse right

MaryJane · « **Reply #638 on:** June 29, 2006, 01:21:18 PM »

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All the Family Guy charachters?!

Even Meg?!

Meg Griffin?!

The worst character on the show, Meg Griffin?!

The character that even the shows' writers make fun of, Meg Griffin?!

The voice of whom is played by that annoying chick from "That 70's show", Meg Griffin?!

Respect -1

Wouldn't all that just make it more fun to beat her up? And the chick from That 70's show (Mila Kunis) while annoying is pretty friggin hot... very unlike Meg. I'd like to use Quagmire to fight also, I wonder what his special move would be... gigiddy

Edfishy · « **Reply #639 on:** June 29, 2006, 04:45:20 PM »

I honestly think Earth Worm Jim would steal the show as a Smash Bros. character. The character has so much depth, animation, and just plain pizzaz I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't want to play as ol' Jim.

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I mean, come on, tell me that isn't a cool character to play as.

Arbok · « **Reply #640 on:** June 29, 2006, 06:26:05 PM »

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I think that's going to be a problem now that you put it that way, #2. I always felt that the series as a whole was lighthearted. Very much so. That was a lot of its charm for me.

I imagine it will be a lot like Melee: lighthearted and serious depending on where you are in the game. I mean, it has a Nintendog as a item... how serious is that?

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I honestly think Earth Worm Jim would steal the show as a Smash Bros. character. The character has so much depth, animation, and just plain pizzaz I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't want to play as ol' Jim.

Oh, go back to playing Clay Fighters

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #641 on:** June 29, 2006, 06:52:29 PM »

BOOGERMAN FOR SSBB!!!!!!11!!!!!11111!!

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #642 on:** June 30, 2006, 07:35:02 AM »

Nice Reference. With Clay Fighter. Wasn't Earthworm Jim in a special Blockbuster only edition of ClayFighter 2 or something?

The original game had its flaws, but the animation and overall concept of the game was very solid. Much more interesting and creative than say Mortal Kombat ever was.

I just wish the gameplay was more polished.

Earthworm Jim would be a great character for Smash Brothers, yet the character's popularity is pretty much dead. Most people don't remember who he is...and its quite sad that they let that character die.

I also question how well the game did in other territories. Because I have a feeling any 3rd party character added must be popular in all territories to get considered.

Which is why I believe the design team is very limited to 3rd party characters which could be added to the game.

The most general list would include:

Bomberman,
Sonic,
Mega Man,
Simon Belmont,
Cloud (from Final Fantasy except he was never on a Nintendo platform.)

There may be a few others, but worldwide instant recogniztion is pretty rare, beyond the classics.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #643 on:** June 30, 2006, 08:12:44 AM »

I have been trying to figure out how to design Bomberman for Smash Brothers, and make him unique and interesting.

Here is what I have come up with.

Bomberman:

His special moves are mostly based around Bomb attacks. Yet his regular attacks still include traditional punches and kicks.

His Special moves allow him to use many different bombs from his arsenal.

B: Bomberman drops a bomb on the ground. This bomb has a fuse of a few seconds, and it then explodes making a trail of fire along the bottom of the screen in typical Bomberman tradition.

Bomberman can pick up these bombs by pressing A next them and as he holds them they get bigger and form a stronger blast. If he holds them long enough he will create a dangerous Bomb that has a Circular Radius that even travels through objects. Bomberman can also kick these bombs towards opponents. Note: No other character can pickup Bomberman's bombs or kick them. Bomberman can get hurt by the blasts of bombs, but he has a resistance that allows it to do less damage to him.

Down B: Land Mine: These recently added Bomberman specials would act like the remote detotation devices in Smash Brothers, yet they will have less Smash Effect. Bomberman can't pick these up and he himself and once armed they can hurt him just as much as anyone else.

Forward B: Detotator Bomb: These classic Bombs are the most dangerous arsenal Bomberman has. Bomberman can only lay one of these at a time, but once on the battle field he can trigger it at anytime. Allowing for a chain of bombs to blow up, or a well placed blast to send Smashed Opponents flying.

Up B: Bomberman has a nice Bomb Jump move that when timed with a short fuse bomb will propel him in the air. This move Drops a bomb underneath Bomberman which he pushes off of to reach higher heights. The bomb explodes a circular radius downward, but the force also propels Bomberman up into the air.

Bomberman requires a bit of finesse to use, as his special moves are powerful but require a great deal of timing.

In Smash Brothers, Kicked or thrown bombs will explode upon impact of something.

Bomberman also has a special ability no other character has. He can pickup Bob-Bombs infinitely and they will not blowup on him. He can also Bomb jump off placed bombs and not explode them.

His regular hand to hand combat is not very strong. His Smash attacks are rather weak in comparison. His best bet is to catch people off guard and send them flying with his bombs. A character with great weakness in close combat, yet ranged combat can be quite dangerous.

Arbok · « **Reply #644 on:** June 30, 2006, 08:25:27 AM »

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Nice Reference. With Clay Fighter. Wasn't Earthworm Jim in a special Blockbuster only edition of ClayFighter 2 or something?

He was in Clay Fighters 63 1/3, both the regular and rental editions.

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Cloud (from Final Fantasy except he was never on a Nintendo platform.)

He was in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, but like I said else where that was probably too small a role to count.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #645 on:** June 30, 2006, 09:12:11 AM »

spak, the only thing I would change is the Down-B to a Bomb Kick (bomb appears and he kicks it forward, blows up on impact) as it's classic Bomberman and great to catch people off guard

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #646 on:** June 30, 2006, 09:43:48 AM »

Athrun: Read my describtion of the normal bombs. You can pick those up or run into them kick them already. I had already thought of that...and it is classic Bomberman.

That and the Detotate Bomb.

I also thought, his special could be the Line Bomb attack.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #647 on:** June 30, 2006, 11:31:16 AM »

Considering Hudson is working with Nintendo to bring TurboGrafx/PC-Engine games to the Virtual Console, Bomberman has a very good chance to make it.

When Sakurai says 1-2 more most people think Sonic and Megaman, but when you think about it, Sonic and Bomberman would be more likely since Sega and Hudson are both involved with the Virtual Console. Plus since Konami owns Hudson it would make the perfect connection between all the third party charactors.

Edfishy · « **Reply #648 on:** June 30, 2006, 05:27:27 PM »

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Earthworm Jim would be a great character for Smash Brothers, yet the character's popularity is pretty much dead. Most people don't remember who he is...and its quite sad that they let that character die.

Just like Mr. Game & Watch and Marth and Roy, which very few Americans had any knowledge of where they were from, Earth Worm Jim could make a comeback by being included in one of the most popular fighting games of today. I personally would rather see Jim than Wario or Megaman, and maybe even Sonic. But not more than Tails, I really want to see Tails in SSBB

Arbok · « **Reply #649 on:** June 30, 2006, 05:55:22 PM »

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Just like Mr. Game & Watch and Marth and Roy, which very few Americans had any knowledge of where they were from, Earth Worm Jim could make a comeback by being included in one of the most popular fighting games of today.

You can't even begin to compare Game & Watch to Earthworm Jim as his inclusion as the secret character had more to do with the history of Nintendo then popularity, and he is a first party character. Let's just be frank, Nintendo is not going to go to Interplay with the plan to fill one of the 2-3 third party character slots with someone whose franchise is dead today.

Would his appearance in SSBB give his character a increase in popularity? Yes. Is Nintendo's aim to ressurect third party franchises? No.

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