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Offline Ghisy

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« Reply #100 on: September 07, 2006, 10:43:08 AM »
Meh, so it's gonna be released on Wii. *le sigh*
Oh well, I'll just have to buy it anyway!
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« Reply #101 on: September 07, 2006, 11:08:39 AM »
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This is the kind of attitude that just shocks me, we are COSTUMERS,  we can and should demand every single selfish need from the company we are giving money to and I don't see the problem in that.


If you want to do that, then do it with your dollars and don't buy SPM.  That's the best way.

Complaining on a forum for 6 months about it doesn't accomplish a damn thing.

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« Reply #102 on: September 07, 2006, 11:30:56 AM »
"There's no reason to support the GC anymore, and all of you who are whining about it haven't even touched yours in ages."

Of course I haven't touched mine in ages.  There are no new games to play!  There is no reason to support the Cube anymore merely because Nintendo abandoned it over a year ago.  This is just circular logic.  They can't release games for the Cube becauss no one is playing their Cube anymore and no one is playing their Cube anymore because they aren't releasing games for it.

"If you want to do that, then do it with your dollars and don't buy SPM. That's the best way.  Complaining on a forum for 6 months about it doesn't accomplish a damn thing."

That doesn't seem to work too well in practice.  Case in point I don't buy crappy third party games but third parties interpretted that as meaning that I don't want their games at all.  The truth is I want to buy this game.  I would prefer to get it on the Cube but, providing it was a high quality, I would still buy it on the Wii.  If I didn't buy it Nintendo would just interpret it as meaning I don't want the game at all.  Voting with your dollar isn't specific enough because sometimes you're displeased but not enough that you want nothing to do with the product at all or you are interested in the product but just not as it is.  Not that complaining on a forum accomplishes anything either but then NOTHING on this forum really accomplishes anything.  It's just discussion for leisure's sake.

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« Reply #103 on: September 07, 2006, 11:37:52 AM »
I don't understand.  If the Wii is backwards compatible with the 'cube, then what's the advantage of moving SPM to the Wii instead of keeping it a GC game?  The Wii will play it either way.  Wouldn't it be better to keep the game compatible with the lowest common denominator?
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« Reply #104 on: September 07, 2006, 11:38:55 AM »
oh come on, no one is complaining 6 months straight about SPM and Zelda's complaining doesnt count, OK!? Im over that as well, don't worry . But one thing is for sure, if I see they tacked in some remote functionality a la Zelda instead of using it properly Im not going to buy the game and you'll get one more ranting post of me about it.

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« Reply #105 on: September 07, 2006, 11:51:34 AM »
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I don't understand.  If the Wii is backwards compatible with the 'cube, then what's the advantage of moving SPM to the Wii instead of keeping it a GC game?  The Wii will play it either way.  Wouldn't it be better to keep the game compatible with the lowest common denominator?

The only thing I can think of is that what little shelf space still exists for GameCube games will disappear when the Wii arrives, so either nobody would stock it or nobody would display it prominently among the new games.

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« Reply #106 on: September 07, 2006, 11:52:34 AM »
How very strange... hmmm.

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« Reply #107 on: September 07, 2006, 01:30:42 PM »
"The only thing I can think of is that what little shelf space still exists for GameCube games will disappear when the Wii arrives, so either nobody would stock it or nobody would display it prominently among the new games."

This seems like a problem period.  In theory the Wii should attract people who never owned a Gamecube to buy the Cube games they missed out on.  But since the Cube doesn't sell those games aren't going to get the shelf space.  So perhaps Nintendo should re-package their major Cube games to appear as Wii releases.  Like they change the cover so that instead of the Cube banner at the top its a Wii/Cube combo banner and it's promoted like a game for both consoles.  In reality it of course just a Cube game with different packaging but it would fit in among the Wii games on the shelf and not come across as an "old" game.  There aren't many games at launch anyway so there is shelf space to spare.  People would come in to buy a Wii and notice that there are some $20 games in the Wii section and that maybe they want to get one of those as well.  Maybe throw in demos with the Cube games too.  A Metroid Prime 3 demo included with Metroid Prime 1 or 2 seems logical as well as a Super Mario Galaxy one with Super Mario Sunshine.  Naturally the demos are on a seperate Wii disc.

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« Reply #108 on: September 07, 2006, 01:38:21 PM »
Or they could just issue 'compatable with Wii' out to stores. And maybe, you know, give them a little something to show their appreciation for keeping cube games on the shelf.
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« Reply #109 on: September 07, 2006, 02:19:52 PM »
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I don't understand.  If the Wii is backwards compatible with the 'cube, then what's the advantage of moving SPM to the Wii instead of keeping it a GC game?  The Wii will play it either way.  Wouldn't it be better to keep the game compatible with the lowest common denominator?

The only thing I can think of is that what little shelf space still exists for GameCube games will disappear when the Wii arrives, so either nobody would stock it or nobody would display it prominently among the new games.
And also, it can help sell Wii systems, since you would need the console to play it.. Maybe it could use the Wii's extra power too.

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« Reply #110 on: September 07, 2006, 02:58:18 PM »
I don't get what is all this fuss about this game moving to Wii, it's going to be released so at least those that still want this game will, actually, should be happy, it would have been a completely different and negative story if they had cancelled it.  

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« Reply #111 on: September 07, 2006, 03:19:29 PM »
If you are displeased with the product, then don't buy it.

It is a very, very, very simple concept, and I'm astounded a lot of people here can't grasp it.

If something as tiny as this pisses you off this much, then don't f*cking buy it.

On the one hand, people around here chide Nintendo endlessly for the bad decisions made regarding the Gamecube, and full well acknowledge that it can't be saved as a viable platform.  That there's a huge tidal wave of hype going for the Wii right now that cannot be stopped.

But then they turn around and whine about this?

You can't have your god damn cake and eat it too.  This is the beginning of the push for the Wii, and frankly, moving a game over to it is going to do nothing but increase it's software library.  And since we all agree that is what sells a system, they damn well better work their butts off to get things out quickly and that utilize the game well.  And while I have NO idea how SPM benefits from being on the Wii, it benefits it much more from a business standpoint than it EVER could for the GC, which we again all aknowledge as being dead.

Again, all you peopl ebitching about this have said nothing in recently about how the GC can be saved, and instead have endlessly whined about how it's dead.

Then let it die.  Nintendo hasn't focused on the GC in any worthwhile sense for the last 6 months.  They've got bigger fish to fry.

I'll be getting SPM and enjoying the hell out of it when it comes out.  I won't be holding a light for my long lost GC lover and pretending I'm not a huge hypocrite about the whole situation.
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« Reply #112 on: September 07, 2006, 03:30:00 PM »
Actually, you know what would be cool? If they did a dual release like TP.
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« Reply #113 on: September 07, 2006, 04:00:30 PM »
NOT cool.
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« Reply #114 on: September 07, 2006, 04:06:37 PM »
Sorta pointless with a smaller release like Paper Mario. Even on Wii this'll be more of a niche title.

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« Reply #115 on: September 07, 2006, 04:16:10 PM »
Pfff.

It's Super Mario.  SUPER.  MARIO.  Plus Paper.

It might not seem all that big, but it'll sell.

Selling even a fraction of any Mario game is good.

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« Reply #116 on: September 07, 2006, 04:28:19 PM »
Releasing Twilight on GameCube at all is stupid. Doing it with this would just be moronic.

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« Reply #117 on: September 07, 2006, 04:30:40 PM »
What's wrong with cross-generational multiplatform releases? All the other big publishers do it.

'cross-generational multiplatform releases' is my new favorite phrase.
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« Reply #118 on: September 07, 2006, 05:16:24 PM »
I think Super Paper Mario will sell better than you think, Kairon, considering the game is pretty much a platformer (with RPG elements)...
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« Reply #119 on: September 07, 2006, 05:48:45 PM »
Yeah, I have to agree with Bill and Jon; Mario 64 DS sold like crazy during the launch of the DS, and it was just a port. This is a 2D Mario platformer, and people will lap it up. Especially Japan, who seem to prefer Mario in that dimension..
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« Reply #120 on: September 08, 2006, 04:53:15 AM »
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Releasing Twilight on Wii at all is stupid. Doing it with this would just be moronic.

Well said

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« Reply #121 on: September 08, 2006, 12:48:51 PM »
You know, Mario, it's not nice to alter quotes, he did post gamecube and not Wii.

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« Reply #122 on: September 08, 2006, 06:25:37 PM »
I'm in the middle of finally playing 1,000 Year Door and I have to say my hopes for this game just went up 1,000 fold.

But I'm one of those crazy people who perfer Mario in 2D anyway...
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« Reply #123 on: September 09, 2006, 06:23:48 AM »
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Yeah, I have to agree with Bill and Jon; Mario 64 DS sold like crazy during the launch of the DS, and it was just a port. This is a 2D Mario platformer, and people will lap it up. Especially Japan, who seem to prefer Mario in that dimension..


True words spoken...

Don't for get you guys that Super Mario Bros. was rereleased on Gameboy (can't remember if it was GBC or GBA) and it wen't on to sell another 1 million units.  That's just incredible...

Personally, I think releasing SPM on Wii is a much better idea.  It'll certainly sell some more units, which is definitely a good enough reason to release it on Wii instead.

 
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« Reply #124 on: September 09, 2006, 07:30:10 AM »
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Originally posted by: KenologyDon't for get you guys that Super Mario Bros. was rereleased on Gameboy (can't remember if it was GBC or GBA) and it wen't on to sell another 1 million units.  That's just incredible...

That was Super Mario Bros. Deluxe for GBC. Actually, the reason I bought a GameBoy Color in the first place was seeing one of my classmates playing that game (I was in 4th grade at the time).

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