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Offline Shecky

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Differences Between PS3 Packages
« on: May 08, 2006, 06:26:23 PM »
Package 1
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$500 USD
20GB HDD
0 HDMI port
NO Memory Stick, SD, or Compact Flash reading capability
NO WiFi support


Package 2
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$600 USD
60GB HDD
1 HDMI port
Memory Stick reading capability (this is SONY, it's only going to be one)
WiFi support


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RE:Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2006, 06:29:54 PM »
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Looking at the official press site of SCEA, we noticed that the PS3 with the 20 gigabyte hard drive seemed to lack HDMI support. This seems to be confirmed by an offical press release from SCEA, which indicates via comparison between the two systems. However, it also indicates that the 20 gigabyte system won't have Memory Stick, SD or Compact Flash reading capability or WiFi support.
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RE:Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2006, 07:10:36 PM »
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I've never heard the expression tard pack in my life.  It's genius.

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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2006, 07:24:20 PM »
Either one you get you're blowing a shitload of money on a system that has failed to deliver already. I've owned every "real" console since the NES (aside from Genesis/32X), and there's no way in Hell I'll spend $500 on a PS3, especially such a crippled system. It's $100 more than the Xbox 360 premium, and offers less.
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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2006, 03:32:38 AM »
I also hope that no one is surprised that the dual 1080p support is gone (well multiple display support is gone) as are some of the other features from when it was first announced.  Not there even with the most expensive system...

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RE:Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2006, 05:05:08 AM »
Question for tech-heads: does the exclusion of HDMI mean that you just have to go out and buy some cables or some other easy-to-install thing for the core system to display HDTV, or does it mean that you effectively have no HDTV capabilities without modding the machine?
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RE:Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2006, 05:26:32 AM »
from what iv heard it will still be able to output 780
just not 1080
which is sad, since 360 can do it out of the box

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2006, 06:26:58 AM »
Blu-Ray is suppsoded to require HDMI. So if you want to see Blu-Ray in its full-res glory, you need the Non-Tard Pack.
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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2006, 07:34:41 AM »
I could buy a pool table with that money and be infinetly happier.


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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2006, 12:45:55 PM »
Thanks Renny.  Sony is dumb.
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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2006, 01:36:09 PM »
What I hear is that the cheap PS3 option will NOT be upgradable, in respect to the HDMI and Memory Stick reading capability, and probably WiFi support.

Stupid, just plain stupid.  

Go for the cheaper avenue to save, and you are screwed for life with that system.
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RE:Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2006, 02:56:45 PM »
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Blu-Ray is suppsoded to require HDMI. So if you want to see Blu-Ray in its full-res glory, you need the Non-Tard Pack.

actually, Sony was pushing studios not to apply the ICT (Image Constrain Token, that is, to not be able to get full-res from component cables) for a while they said they wouldn't apply it for a long time.

at the time I found that odd, now I can see why..........
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2006, 04:47:26 PM »
So they reversed their decision on that? Maybe that was in response to HD-DVD loosening its restraints?
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2006, 06:06:20 PM »
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So they reversed their decision on that? Maybe that was in response to HD-DVD loosening its restraints?

most likely

also, it wouldn't be nice to spend $1000+ on a BD Player only to find out that you can't get full HD (barely ED) because your TV doesn't have the lastest Hollywood-approved full of DRM HDMI input.......
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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2006, 08:36:16 PM »
I just have one thing to add to this discussion, it was a thought that I had last nite that didn't really make sense to me.
PS3 communicates wirelessly with PSP for connectivity right.

And Sony has a game that takes advantage of that feature, some F1 racing game that uses the PSP as a rear view mirror(which would have made sense if the PSP also acted as the controller), and does so wirelessly.

PSP can only communicate wirelessy through wifi right?

So why does the PS3 Premium support Wifi and the PS3 Tard pack not?

If they plan on using connectivity in any sort of usefull way, wouldn't you want to include wifi in all models?

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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2006, 08:56:00 PM »
I'm not sure, but I don't think they use WiFi for the PSP connectivity - it's probably Bluetooth or something..
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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2006, 05:49:15 PM »
If it's Bluetooth for the controller, then it's Bluetooth for the PSP.
It's only logical.
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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2006, 06:51:50 PM »
I didn't know the PSP supported bluetooth

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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2006, 11:17:30 PM »
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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2006, 06:56:26 PM »
So... another question.  Is Sony offering an "upgrade path" to those that buy the cheaper system?  I can't really see how, which is just devestating IMO.

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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2006, 07:17:33 PM »
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So... another question.  Is Sony offering an "upgrade path" to those that buy the cheaper system?  I can't really see how, which is just devestating IMO.

ummm.....selling it and buying the premium one?

or they could just wait until the lens breaks.......
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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2006, 10:27:10 AM »
There will be a great disturbance in the force when the first batch of PS3s begin breaking down.  
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2006, 11:01:33 AM »
I agree.  Sony is not known for the same quality that Nintendo is known for, so I suspect that the PS3's first initial batch will have its fair share of problems, and forking over either 500 or 600 dollars is too much when you know you are running the risk of having a problem.  If you thought the Xbox 360 had problems with just a DVD drive, then image what you'll have with the Blu-Ray drive!
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2006, 08:09:54 PM »
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If you thought the Xbox 360 had problems with just a DVD drive, then image what you'll have with the Blu-Ray drive!


Well yeah, but how many people are actually going to buy Blu-Ray? I mean, this could be something where someone buys a Blu-Ray disc 6 months after getting the system for the first time... only to find that their $600 system might have a broken competent in doing that correctly. So some, if there are problems, might find out that fact way too late unlike with something more commonly used like a DVD drive, where errors can be spotted and one can return the unit with the receipt in a short amount of time.

Although, if Blu-Ray is going to end up like this generation's Laserdisc, which I imagine it might, then the owner of the PS3 might not even care a great deal that the feature doesn't work...
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RE: Differences Between PS3 Packages
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2006, 01:22:17 AM »
Keep in mind that the games for the PS3 will be BRD based as well and if the drive fails the entire console fails.