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« Reply #200 on: April 27, 2006, 07:08:41 PM »
Has Penny Arcade jumped on this yet?

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« Reply #201 on: April 27, 2006, 07:08:42 PM »
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
"Play Station" was named the way it is (by Sony BTW, Nintendo had nothing to do with it) because at the time the Silicon Graphics "Work Station" was the biggest, baddest, most impressive thing in the history of computers. Sony was trying to claim that they had the gaming-version of a supercomputer. (Then Nintendo went and built themselves an actual authentic $200 SGI Workstation.)

Now Nintendo doesn't give a crap about impressing anyone, and puts deliberate effort into looking like retards.

...and yet you'll still buy a Wii this year, so calling them retarded doesn't help matters when you support them.

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Being continually negative, especially with people who don't know the name yet, will only make things worse.

So true.



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« Reply #202 on: April 27, 2006, 07:09:17 PM »
Thats called arrogance, and as I said, I f!cking hate that.

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« Reply #203 on: April 27, 2006, 07:09:18 PM »
Jesus... Please, someone tell me this is a lie...
Just some random guy on the internet who has a different opinion of games than you.

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« Reply #205 on: April 27, 2006, 07:14:42 PM »
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Thats called arrogance, and as I said, I f!cking hate that.


Arrogance confidence, same thing.

Look, wii shall call it arrogant in five years when the Wii fails to accomplish Nintendo's goals, or wii shall call it confident if it does.

Subjective. *shrug*

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« Reply #206 on: April 27, 2006, 07:15:08 PM »
I'm with HC on this. Stop making mountains out of molehills.

Maybe its because of the fact that I'm not cool (or trying to be) that I just don't care. I can't wait to see how the Wii-wand gets used at E3 anyway.

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« Reply #207 on: April 27, 2006, 07:19:08 PM »
Yup....all in the eyes of the interpreter.

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« Reply #208 on: April 27, 2006, 07:22:38 PM »
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It's not like you are the ones that make publicity for the system so why even bother, if you want to publicize it to your friends just say "want to see the new Nintendo system that I just bought?"


THIS IS KEY.  I cannot stress that enough.  When you tell people about this system, don't say "Oh hey, listen to this stupid name, doesn't it sound like piss?" because that'll be their first impression and that'll be what they belive.  Introduce it as "we", not "wee", explain it to them, the controls and the concept behind the title and don't make them think about the dumb jokes.  It's the "We", Wii, the "weeeeeeeee!", depending on who you tell.
Being continually negative, especially with people who don't know the name yet, will only make things worse.


Oh I'm well aware of that, as I've posted already something about that on the Wii section, I did it at work today and neither I or the person that heard it did any jokes of sexual intent.


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Thats called arrogance, and as I said, I f!cking hate that.


Uh, no it isn't. Confidence and arrogance are unsimilar, they can go together but they are not the same.

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« Reply #209 on: April 27, 2006, 07:28:20 PM »
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Has Penny Arcade jumped on this yet?


No, They'll mention it but I don't forsee a comic about it. It'd be like making a comic about a clown, what are you gunna make fun of?
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« Reply #210 on: April 27, 2006, 07:58:15 PM »
Hahaha.
And I know you get it Caliban, I was pointing it out to all the naysayers who will make it seem negative from the get-go.
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« Reply #211 on: April 27, 2006, 08:18:14 PM »
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"Live with it, sleep with it, eat with it, move along with it and hopefully they'll arrive at the same place."

Nintendo's creedo and the exact reason why they're in last place. If you have to tell your fanbase to "live with it" then maybe your name sucks.

Just because something is an acquired taste doesn't mean it sucks. Especially when said acquired taste will be repeated over and over and over again for us.

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Oh, for goodness sakes, only one person even noticed my point about "PlayStation" being the most childish name ever (at least when I made it in this thread).

I noticed and you're right...most video game console names sound stupid at first. In fact, as one of the analysts quoted by GameSpot pointed out, the one console with a name that was actually good (Dreamcast) failed miserably.

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"fag" is even easier to remember, will you name a product like that?

Yeah, who would ever call a product a fag? Now, excuse me while a go smoke a cigarette. (See what I did there?)  
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« Reply #212 on: April 27, 2006, 08:18:22 PM »
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No I like the name. The more and more I watch people's reaction, I'm seeing that it's going to stick more and more. It has appeal to crowd that doesn't really play games because the word has no definition yet, so Nintendo is free to define it themselves. It has appeal to us XTREME GAMERS because we get to make phallic jokes. See, win win situation 8-)
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« Reply #213 on: April 27, 2006, 08:55:36 PM »
is it because of what it sounds like.. or because of what it looks like? or the fact that its easy to make fun of?

i think its short, sweet, and stylish... i think the only thing i'm not looking forward to are the constant moans of people.. or standing and listening to people laughing at your local electronics outlet. on that note.. i think nintendo did make a bad choice.


it LOOKS a lot cooler than it sounds.  

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« Reply #214 on: April 27, 2006, 09:23:36 PM »
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is it because of what it sounds like.. or because of what it looks like? or the fact that its easy to make fun of?

i think its short, sweet, and stylish... i think the only thing i'm not looking forward to are the constant moans of people.. or standing and listening to people laughing at your local electronics outlet. on that note.. i think nintendo did make a bad choice.


it LOOKS a lot cooler than it sounds.


Anyway you look at it, any angle you take with it, it's infectous. I like it because it can go so many ways. You can make jokes out of it, you can make communal statements about it, and it's less text you have to type. Wii. Love it or hate it, we are creating an environment perfect for a new unique product.  
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« Reply #215 on: April 27, 2006, 09:50:52 PM »
people around this part of the country (arkansas, oklahoma) are not big gamers. they call check-printing at your local grocery store "new-fangled". some of their kids are much worse.

i just read the entire pgc rountable chat about the name. its brilliant, and some great ideas. made my previous post completely obsolete and look restated.

i really dont think it will be as hard to accept as many people are claiming. i think if the people 'see' the logo a lot.. the stylish-ness will get to them before the sound.

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« Reply #216 on: April 27, 2006, 10:04:59 PM »
I still think this all boils down to one thing, Wii will stand up solely on its looks, not necessarily its sound (though I believe that will become second nature after while). I don't really recall a console name before that leaves the door so wide open for creative name manipulation to make it "cool". besides Besides many customers tend to buy things based on packaging and I feel the Wii ads along with packaging will be slick, and pleasing to the eye.
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« Reply #217 on: April 27, 2006, 11:00:23 PM »
Here's my first post... unfortunately I don't think I'll make much friends here, since I "like" the name, and I have a somewhat crazy theory about it...

It's almost impossible that Nintendo wasn't aware of the consequences of this decision, maybe the controversy wasn't part of the initial plan, but they decided to stick to it, for the sake of it and for all it stands for.

I see that some people commenting don't hate the name that much themselves, but are afraid that it may be ridiculed at school or at their workplace... Well it shouldn't be that way... Nintendo, yourself and the world in general, shouldn't be at the mercy of schoolyard bullies!

Let's say that there is new some asian kid named "Wii" in your class at school, will you:

A) Make fun his name, calling him "wee wee", and encourage bullies to ruin part of his childhood?

B) Try to look indifferent to the name, taking a "low-profile" approach to be sure not to be ridiculed for defending Wii?

C) Defend Wii against the bullies, and side with people that are tired of mean jokes and verbal abuse (or textual abuse, on the internet)?

There is a lot of intermediary possibilities, but for the post I only use 3 categories.

Nintendo wants us to be part of group B or even better, group C. If people in group A don't want to buy the Nintendo Wii because of it's name, well so be it... We don't want you playing our console, because we don't want you to drive the Wii market toward mindless, ruthless games. You like making fun of other's people name? You hate the French or like to make fun of other languages? (Oui?) We don't want you on our online gaming network.

Group B and C are really the majority, though group A tends to be "louder", and adults usually shift towards group C as they get older, and incidentally stop playing video games since what they see on the PSx and XBox is aimed at group A in particular. You see, group B and C really fit the market Nintendo seems to be aiming at with the Wii. These people won't mind the name, some will actively defend it if they have to.

After all, it's a single syllable, and the sound of it is used much more commonly to say "we", which has a more serious and profound meaning.  It also has something to do with the sound "Weee!" that we innocently shout when we have fun (usually when we were kids). Games can be serious (Chess, puzzles) and/or also innocently fun. Four players Pong with the Wii remote? That in itself could produce many "Weeee!" from perfectly sane adults in all parts of the world.

The name Revolution was a cool name and all, but it has a political meaning to many... The name also sets the expectations too high, people expecting things like force feedback and virtual reality. Wii sounds more like "A new simple way to have good old fun". People ridiculing the name will only help to create that market amongst non-players, by exaggerating the contrast between the Xbox/PS market and Nintendo's market. The XBox/PS market will be seen even more about bullying others with virtual guns, cars, making fun of names and cursing through voice links. In contrast Nintendo's market will be seen as being about simple innocent fun.

The look of the console is serious though, and there's a reason to it. Adults (a good part of what Nintendo is aiming now, despite what some say) also have "serious lives", so when they are not playing they want the console to blend with their living room. But when you power it up, the shiny blue light comes out of the dvd slot, putting an emphasis on the fun content of this otherwise serious looking rectangle box. And then you can say "Weeee!" and wave your hand in the air like some crazy kid with a laser pointer We'll get used to it, just like we'll get used to say the syllable "Wii".

The jokes will get old quickly, anyone still making these jokes in a month will only help the cause, generating a lot of "We don't care" or "We like the name".

"Nintendo wee wee ahaha"... Whatever... who's looking immature now? It's an old joke already...  

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« Reply #218 on: April 27, 2006, 11:06:51 PM »
Amazing, and well thought out post Star. I couldn't agree more, we have to realize that Nintendo is aiming at all ages, there will be games for the "hardcore" gamer and there will be games for everyone. Really I believe adults who are not into gaming at this point of time to be more attracted to the name "Wii" than the "Gamey" sounding names of the other systems.  
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« Reply #219 on: April 27, 2006, 11:13:31 PM »
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...and yet you'll still buy a Wii this year, so calling them retarded doesn't help matters when you support them.

Wrong and wrong.

While you can't entirely judge a book by it's cover, I was predisposed towards liking the Revolution. Was. Not anymore. I have no desire to buy a Wii. Nintendo is going to have to do something spectacular to win me back if they want my support (and I don't believe that "Wii" is the required first step in a grand plan to do just that).

And if it weren't for people complaining about the Celda demo, Nintendo would've never given Link eyebrows. Without the complaining, we wouldn't be anticipating Twilight Princess. If Nintendo wants to completely ignore the overwhelmingly negative reaction to this name, and just plow ahead with this boneheaded decision, then the failure of the Revolution (and possibly the death of Nintendo) will be on their hands, not mine.
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« Reply #220 on: April 27, 2006, 11:33:06 PM »
For some odd reason, I am not of the caring mood when it comes to the always negative individuals who post in this forum, who just happen to not like the name.  
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« Reply #221 on: April 28, 2006, 12:04:33 AM »
"If Nintendo wants to completely ignore the overwhelmingly negative reaction to this name, and just plow ahead with this boneheaded decision, then the failure of the Revolution (and possibly the death of Nintendo) will be on their hands, not mine."

OMG, over-dramatic much?

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« Reply #222 on: April 28, 2006, 12:31:22 AM »
How dare you trivialize what is clearly a very serious statement concerning such gravely important subject matter as the proper nomenclature of an audiovisual interactive entertainment machine. For shame, sir.
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« Reply #223 on: April 28, 2006, 12:59:39 AM »
Today I am seeing a group of grown adults act like a bunch of crybaby brats.  Or a group of ignorant children act like crybaby brats.  I am not sure which sickens me most, but probably the adults because you are supposed to know better.

Color me disappointed in the lot of you.  And consider this the shattering of the last illusion I had of PGC forum's intellectual authority.
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« Reply #224 on: April 28, 2006, 01:19:38 AM »
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Today I am seeing a group of grown adults act like a bunch of crybaby brats. Or a group of ignorant children act like crybaby brats. I am not sure which sickens me most, but probably the adults because you are supposed to know better.

A) You're surprised by the reaction? I saw this coming within a couple neuron firings of seeing those three letters. And the rest of the internet appears to be giving it to Nintendo far worse than PGC is.

B) Crybaby brats are Nintendo's target audience.
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