Topic: Revolution Name Announced!

[mantidor]

Typed out looks cool! Pronouncing it no so much. Try the Flash which is nice, but DONT read the explanation because it couldnt be more corny.

It took me until very recently to get used to it (I hate it very much, but Im used to it sadly), so be prepared for some time trying to make any sense of this absolutely insane decision!

[Arbok]

Well it has already started to look better to the eyes, conjuring up less images of World War II with each glance (something which I see I was not alone with). Although, as you mention mantidor, I just can't see my self saying this outloud. I'm going to go play "wee"... oh I just hope the name gels over time, but even though the Playstation and Xbox names weren't ever great to begin with at least they couldn't be confused for a common adjective...  

[Mario]

I've thought of the best example yet!

Rock superstars Queen. Also a word with one syllable, and it's dirty meaning is a LOT worse than "piss". Also one of the most recognisable and influential music groups in history.

Also, U2. What the HELL does U2 mean? Nobody cares!

[GoldenPhoenix]

Mantidor and Easy, both well said. It is actually pleasing as a visual image, but it is hard to get used to how it is pronounced, then again I bet with time it will be second nature. If people don't want to say "We" then why not say "Why" or "W i i", personally I'll continue to pronounce it as Nintendo wants, but that does not mean everyone has to. In the long run I think it will be the looks of the name rather than how it sounds that sells it.

[Arbok]

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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
If people don't want to say "We" then why not say "Why" or "W i i", personally I'll continue to pronounce it as Nintendo wants, but that does not mean everyone has to.

I'm sure that would go over great with the non-gamers Nintendo is trying to attract...

Customer: "Excuse me, do you have any 'Why's in stock?"
Walmart Clerk: "What?"
Customer: "Why, Y... the thing the plays games."
Walmart Clerk: "Huh?"

[Donutt007]

OK, I found this kinda funny. That logo isn't very original. I was sitting on BART (that's the subway type system in the Bay Area) and happened to look up at a poster on the wall. It's an ad for a website called we-matter

Now I was sitting there looking at how familar their logo looks...check it out.



HAHAHA..

[Artimus]

That logo looks nothing like Wii's logo...

[EasyCure]

theres another point i let out on this mornings post, mainly cuz i was waaay tired to keep typing.
to all the "haters" and just to clarify, the haters are the ones saying things like "OH NINTENDOZ IS DO0MED CUZ THE NAME SUX I WONT BYE ONE1!";
to you haters i say this...

its still the Revolution you fell in love with. its still the only console trying something new and trying to change the way we play games forever. its still that silly little wand that will revolutionize it all, so why simply turn your back? why dont YOU go out and spread the word about Wii. ever hear the term "be part of the solution, not part of the problem"? well learn it and stick with it. is it really that much of a 'slap in the face' to you becuase they chose a name that you dont like? they are still going to make those revolutionary games, their going to pour %100 percent into their new system becuase its something they believe in, and a lot of you believed in as well before the official name; so why hate on it now? its your responsibility to spread the positive about Wii. have non-gamer friends or family? tell him about everything else first, leave the name for last. most people will think "wow thats really different..." and that pro's will out weigh the con's. you wanted a revolution, no? well help nintendo bring one. everyone of you who thinks nintendo has an uphill marketing battle, make it a little easier on the. you're so sure that their PR people suck, so why not help them out? do what The Traveler did and make trialers, make convincing ads to float in the 'net (and not ones with urinals and stuff bashing the name). if not, like i said in my last post; good riddance, you're not part of the fanbase.  

[Artimus]

Ugh. This discussion is so annoying.

When 95% of people actually think the name is either dumb or bad, it doesn't MATTER why they think that. It doesn't matter if everyone in the world has an immature reason for hating it, what matters it that they do. People consider Nintendo iddy-kay and ay-ga because the GameCube was purple. That's a STUPID reason to think that, but it still hurt the console. Saying "grow up" doesn't undo the damage. If people think of pee and penises when they read the name, then it doesn't matter how immature that it. It's not fair or mature, but it's how it is.

What it comes down to is that there is no reason to have a name that causes those reactions. You can have a disruptive, bizarre and originally name that doesn't have bad connotations, confusing pronounciation and a horrible cheesy basis.

[Mario]

Hey guys, maybe if we proclaim our posts to be plain facts like Artimus does, people like Artimus will read them!

I repeat, Queen.

[Hostile Creation]

"When 95% of people actually think the name is either dumb or bad, it doesn't MATTER why they think that."

Wow, I'm off the internet for one night and someone's already taken an accurate poll with randomoly selected participants.  Efficient.

[Djunknown]

Penny arcade sums up this debate beautifully:

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People who hate it because they hate X, people who hate it because it is not good, people who like it because other people hate it, people who like it because they are "above the fray," and people who like it because they like X...
Now all I see is a kind of template superimposed over every motive, as though the argument were taking place between cells on a spreadsheet.
 

Will Reggie and or/ Harrison please stand up to do some damage control? 'Cuz Kaplan isn't really helping...

[Bloodworth]

EasyCure, would you mind reading punctuation and paragraph breaks?  Holy crap, I do not want to read that massive block of text.

[Bloodworth]

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the insecure 15-25 year old who makes a pee joke because you cant come to terms with something

I'm sorry, but once you get older than 25, you're actually MORE likely to associate it with pee or penis because you have children or grandchildren.  

It simply sounds silly in a normal sentence, and the innuendo is unavoidable whether you're trying or not: Do you have a Wii?  I was up all night last night playing Mario on my Wii.  Come over and check out my Wii.  

I am the one who generally sits back and takes a calm wait and see approach with Nintendo's decisions, but this still sits like a bad prank. My girlfriend can't stop complaining either.  She can't fathom how Nintendo could willingly name their console a word that sounds like urine.  We aren't 15 - 25. We aren't insecure gang bangers. We are calm sensible adults and the associations are locked in our psyche like a two-ton roadblock.

[Artimus]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Wow, I'm off the internet for one night and someone's already taken an accurate poll with randomoly selected participants.  Efficient.

Nice sidestepping of my actual argument there. I guess the problem is that you agree?

If people think it sounds stupid, it doesn't matter why. That's the problem. Being 'mature' isn't relevant if no one is.

[Kairon]

We'll see how the market bears this out. Until then, 99% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Hostile Creation]

"Nice sidestepping of my actual argument there. I guess the problem is that you agree?"

Your argument was two parts obvious and two parts pointless.  As a result, I didn't feel the need to take it seriously.

If the haters and I were arguing in real life, do you think they'd seriously be able to argue that it sounded like "wee wee"?  There are so many instances of the internet being grossly different from the real world, more specifically the real marketplace.  This is very likely another.

[GoldenPhoenix]

You know, I always thought "we" meant more than "penises" or "going to the bathroom". Silly me, guess I have been out of touch with the U.S. culture longer than I originally thought.  

[matt oz]

I personally don't have a problem with the name Wii.  I don't like it, but I don't hate it either.  I don't care what they hell they call it.

But the fact of the matter is this: we, as Nintendo fans, missed out on a lot of games over the past 2 generations, due to Nintendo's poor decision-making.  When they decided to use cartridges instead of discs for the N64, they allowed Sony to move ahead of them, and forge new relationships with Nintendo's business partners.

When they chose a childish-looking design for the Gamecube, they further painted themselves into a corner.  Whether you like it or not, IMAGE MATTERS.  It matters in nearly every aspect of our lives, especially with something so disposable and unnecessary as video gaming.

For the first time, I had to buy a non-Nintendo system in 2003, because I was missing out on too many good games.  Nintendo has lacked third-party support for quite some time, and if they keep making these oddball decisions, everything they've been gaining with Wii may be lost.

[Artimus]

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
"Nice sidestepping of my actual argument there. I guess the problem is that you agree?"

Your argument was two parts obvious and two parts pointless.  As a result, I didn't feel the need to take it seriously.

If the haters and I were arguing in real life, do you think they'd seriously be able to argue that it sounded like "wee wee"?  There are so many instances of the internet being grossly different from the real world, more specifically the real marketplace.  This is very likely another.

Ugh. You're not even talking about the same thing I am. I'm not talking about arguing anything. I'm saying that if people think of bad things when they hear the name, then it doesn't matter how mature they are. Telling someone to grow up isn't going to change what they think. And what they think is what matters when it comes to image.

[GoldenPhoenix]

lol

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Originally posted by: matt oz
I personally don't have a problem with the name Wii.  I don't like it, but I don't hate it either.  I don't care what they hell they call it.

But the fact of the matter is this: we, as Nintendo fans, missed out on a lot of games over the past 2 generations, due to Nintendo's poor decision-making.  When they decided to use cartridges instead of discs for the N64, they allowed Sony to move ahead of them, and forge new relationships with Nintendo's business partners.

When they chose a childish-looking design for the Gamecube, they further painted themselves into a corner.  Whether you like it or not, IMAGE MATTERS.  It matters in nearly every aspect of our lives, especially with something so disposable and unnecessary as video gaming.

For the first time, I had to buy a non-Nintendo system in 2003, because I was missing out on too many good games.  Nintendo has lacked third-party support for quite some time, and if they keep making these oddball decisions, everything they've been gaining with Wii may be lost.

It won't be lost, it should be quite apparent this is not the case from the EA interview, along with Ubisofts support. They are more interested in what it does rather than what it is named, which I believe will also be a mute point once the dust has settled regardless of what people may think now. Like the controller, this too will die down and people will get used to it regardless of their supposed relation of "we" to "pee" instead of referencing people together.

There is no point in hammering any of the arguments anymore, it is quite apparent that the few on this board that have defended the name with LOGICAL reasons are being ignored by "wee" minded folks, oh wow look I made a funny. Maybe I should say "wee wee" minded folks, since that is obviously the only way most of the detractors think they can view the word "we" ignorning the fact that the word has another meaning both here and in other cultures.    

[Deguello]

I have never ever heard the term "wee" used as slang for urine in my entire life until two days ago.

I usually heard it in conjuction with "hours of the morning," or "little thing, isn't he?"

The hyperactive internet culture that derives and feeds off of innuendo is the only ones making fun of this. And the internet has been known to fabricate innuendo where there was none before.  And since that is the case, it appears that no name Nintendo could have come up with would be able to avoid massive ridicule.  For example, Penny Arcade, who so recently cajoled Nintendo for this in a comic, also referred to the Xbox as the Three-Sh***y.  The Playstation 3 would seem to have likely avoided this, but when strapped for something to make fun of, they latched onto THE FONT of the name.  THE FONT.

I see no people lining up to called the PSP a Urinator's dream.  Now I have heard "pee" in reference to urine several times in my life, and heck it's in there TWICE.  Where are the jokes?  I mean isn't saying "PSPee HURK HURK" Gamefaqs material?  Aren't we beyond this?  Heck Tim Buckley, this Nintendo-hating, DS-trashing, thinly veiled fanboy Comic writer of CtrlAltDel says he likes the name, or at least doesn't hate it, and he's telling all detractors to grow up.  That is man is in any position to tell ANYBODY to grow up is ludicrous, yet he is and is right.

I certainly hope all this "wee" nonsense gets out of all of your systems before E3.  Because when I go to E3 and "wee"-jokes are still on the minds of everybody, it will reveal more about us than it will reveal about Nintendo's Marketing strategy.

With this announcement, Nintendo not only told everybody the final name of their groundbreaking new console, they held up a mirror to us all, and right now I think I am a wee bit saddened at what I am seeing right now.

(Didja see that?  I said wee in a sentence.  Isn't that funny? ha ha.)

[Artimus]

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Originally posted by: Deguello
I have never ever heard the term "wee" used as slang for urine in my entire life until two days ago.

Where are you from? It's a normal word used by adults in the UK.

[Hostile Creation]

He's from America.  And why ask that question like that?  It's not as though this is a forum frequented exclusively by citizens of the UK.

Also, I'm not from the UK, but from what I gather it's used in a similar way as Deg described.  A la the Scottish "wee lad" variety of the word.

[nitsu niflheim]

I like Wii, it's different.  It's not the same name with a different number attached, like Xbox360, or even PS3.