Topic: Business Week Article

[Bubba]

Business Week

Some more mainstream acceptance of the revolution.  Too bad they focused on the supposedly I LOVE HALO 2 image.

[Ian Sane]

They focused on the kids image because it's still there.  Nintendo has not said they're going to target mature gamers or anything like that.  They've said they're going to target your grandma and have the whole family playing together.  They're not making an effort to eliminate the kids image so it's going to stick around.  If anything their blue ocean strategy might make it worse since the young male demographic might be self-conscious of playing with a console that's trying to get seniors and middle-aged women to play games.  Nintendo's "everyone" consoles have been stuck with the k!ddy label before so it wouldn't surprise me if the most "everyone" focused console ever had the same.

Good article overall though I don't like the emphasis on nostalgia.  It seems that whenever the mainstream talks about Nintendo anymore it's all about re-releases and sequels.  Nintendo will never regain the top spot with a nostalgia console.  The only way they can be the market leader is if they're relevant to today's gamer and they can't do that if all their games are either from 1985 or require the player to have been alive in 1985 to recognize the source material.  Neil Diamond still makes albums and has concerts but he isn't topping the charts because he isn't relevant anymore.  It's the same with Nintendo and they'll never be relevant again if they're just a notalgia act.  And it's that "Who are you?" crap and all those Mario spinoffs that has made the mainstream think of them as such.

[The Omen]

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Good article overall though I don't like the emphasis on nostalgia. It seems that whenever the mainstream talks about Nintendo anymore it's all about re-releases and sequels. Nintendo will never regain the top spot with a nostalgia console.

I wholeheartedly disagree.  My topic from two years ago(lost somewhere in this forum) explains why nostalgia was the only route in which Nintendo could possibly regain the top spot.  The reason?  Those who feel nostalgic torwards Nintendo are older gamers, ie, the gamers Nintendo lacks.  It's the ultimate trojan horse method to lure a big part of the market back.  Once they're back for the retro gaming, they may pick up Pikmin 3 and realize it's not what they thought it was, and their faith in Nintendo reborn, they go out like prophets and spread the word..

[Artimus]

Isn't this the "return to glory" article that was posted?

[Ian Sane]

"It's the ultimate trojan horse method to lure a big part of the market back. Once they're back for the retro gaming, they may pick up Pikmin 3 and realize it's not what they thought it was, and their faith in Nintendo reborn, they go out like prophets and spread the word.. "

That might work.  I'm iffy about it though since we've seen a trend where original Nintendo games aren't selling nearly as well as Nintendo spinoffs and sequels.  By focusing too much on the franchises Nintendo has been training its customers to only pay attention to the sequels.

[King of Twitch]

They can't ride on nostalgia if they've lost the loyalty of the old fanbase. There's only a need for nostalgia when something is lacking. The inital $100 price difference didn't help the Cube, will $200 make that big of a difference? The argument that another Smash Bros. and another Pikmin and another Animal Crossing will help sell consoles... well the originals didn't spike Cube sales, so why will the sequels do it? If anything, it will at least keep the Cube-owner base happy.

[Strell]

I'm sure Nintendo can cater to everyone.  If we're still getting kid-y comments even in the light of Red Steel, there's very little else anyone can do.

[eljefe]

http://www.planetgamecube.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=15683

yeah artimus,


same article  

[BiLdItUp1]

It's sad how they completely ignore the only Rev game anyone knows anything substantial about (that being Red Steel.) And they claim they've spoken to devs...

[nemo_83]

I think Nintendo is creating a new image, the image of the console for parents.

[The Omen]

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They can't ride on nostalgia if they've lost the loyalty of the old fanbase. There's only a need for nostalgia when something is lacking.

They have lost the loyalty in Nintendo CONSOLES in the last generation and a half.  Not in games.  Any game player will tell you Zelda rules.  The NES and SNES games are considered classics by any gamer who played games back then.  Everyone played Nintendo and loved it.  The key is that those same old NES games will now be available for them without having to try and drag out the NES which blinks nonstop.  Many older gamers will embrace the Rev based solely on the retro virtual console.

[animecyberrat]

Ive seen it first hand time and again, get togetehr with Ps or MS fanboys and dig out the old NEs and they all jump on it. Also loook at how many people brag about hwo you can run NES and SNES games via emulators on xbox and such. If these gamers didnt care about retro titels they wouldnt be playing them on thier new systems (illegaly).  

[Stimutacs Addict]

I know a number of college freshmen that are interested in the revolution simply because of the virtual console and Super Smash Bros. Revolution. It's mostly my doing, because I have SSB:M playing around the clock in my dorm room.

but Nintendo needs to capture the 12-18 yr olds. Those are the kids who influence this market.. If Ninty can get the middle and high schoolers playing their console, its game over,.