Author Topic: FIRST REV SCREENSHOT SCANS!!!!! (Read 164173 times)

Terranigma Freak · « **Reply #625 on:** November 18, 2006, 02:23:14 AM »

This is Gamespot, you can pretty much ignore what they have to say. I'd ignore Gamespot even if they gave the game a 10.

Jin-X · « **Reply #626 on:** November 18, 2006, 04:06:22 AM »

When you see that this guy gave Perfect Dark Zero a 9, well thats all you need to know. It's like they're judging the Wii to a higher gameplay standard while at the same time judging the graphics to near 360 and PS3 levels. They give Untold Legends for the PS3 a 6, that game has been he butt of jokes in the reviews I've seen (X-Play, 1up).

Can anybody confirm that they were exhibiting anti-Wii bias for months now? Or is that just fanboy ramblings? Because right now it kinda looks like option A.

SixthAngel · « **Reply #627 on:** November 18, 2006, 04:35:56 AM »

Expect reviewers from Gamespot to be overly harsh on the Wii. They always seemed to have a dislike for the new control scheme and the "if it ain't broke don't fix it mindset." If you are excited about the new point and shoot controls I suggest ignoring them entirely. (He complains about recharging health which they love in Halo, Gears, and call of duty.)

Reading other reviews it seems like the biggest problem with the game is bad AI, which is unfortunate. The controls seems to have been nailed but this could drag the single player down. Since I already own it I'll find out tomorrow.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #628 on:** November 18, 2006, 05:45:37 AM »

Didn't I tell you guys that Red Steel would be treated A LOT like Geist?

Geist got A LOT of flak because the engine was too slow and the aiming was clunky. But in the end the game turned out to be really fun and solid. True, the game WAS broken in places, but it wasn't bad enough that it ruined the entire game.

Hell, even the graphics were ragged because of quality (one thing everyone is criticizing about Red Steel).

I have the feeling that to some gamers the game will be rock solid, despite what the overall reviews say.

Kairon · « **Reply #629 on:** November 18, 2006, 06:21:38 AM »

ARGH! PAP64!

Yet again someone TOTALLY KILLS my Red Steel hype with a Geist comparison!

raaargh

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #630 on:** November 18, 2006, 06:27:10 AM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
ARGH! PAP64!

Yet again someone TOTALLY KILLS my Red Steel hype with a Geist comparison!

raaargh

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

ARGH! KAIRON!

Just because I mentioned that RS might be treated like Geist it doesn't mean the game WILL PLAY EXACTLY LIKE GEIST. Geist had its unique strengths and weaknesses, and I'm sure RS will have its own strengths and weaknesses.

I never said that the games are EXACTLY alike, I said that RS could end up being a solid but overly criticized shooter that ends up getting a cult following.

Just why do you hate Geist so much? I played the game and I agree the game is FAR from perfect, but me and my nephew had a blast playing through it.

Kairon · « **Reply #631 on:** November 18, 2006, 06:44:20 AM »

I hate it because when a game has Nintendo stamped on it, I expect more.

I didn't care about the graphics, I didn't worry about the controls. I just felt that the game flow and game design wasn't streamlined AT ALL.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

zakkiel · « **Reply #632 on:** November 18, 2006, 07:08:20 AM »

AARGH! Let us not forget Gamespot also gave TP an 8.8. Their reviews are meaningless junk.

Kairon · « **Reply #633 on:** November 18, 2006, 07:13:41 AM »

ANYWAYS...

I say that if we just expect Red Steel to be a straightforward 1-player FPS, with occasional timing-based sword-fight battles and wii-pointer aiming, then we'll be onh the right track. Oh, and I've also heard of one or two fugly, but not game destroying graphical glitches.

But seriously, after watching some video previews of this game in action, it looks so different from your everyday walk-in-the-park FPS experience that even if it's quality is mediocre, it's experience won't be.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Kairon · « **Reply #634 on:** November 18, 2006, 07:40:00 AM »

For anyone who cares for a counterpoint, some UK games journalist made an account on gamefaqs just to state that he felt that Red Steel was worth more than 5.5. He eventually DID have to prove his identity, but even before that he sounded credible and sensible, and positive on Red Steel which he had written a review for as well.

Read it here!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #635 on:** November 18, 2006, 07:44:03 AM »

Jeff BlobMASS reviewing all the Wii games?

WHAT HAPPENED TO GREG KASAVIN?

Kairon · « **Reply #636 on:** November 18, 2006, 07:52:02 AM »

Greg Kasavin reviewed Red Steel. And it's not nice to make fun of rotund people.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #637 on:** November 18, 2006, 09:35:53 AM »

Maybe I'm missing something, but why are the visuals of Red Steel attacked so much? From what I've seen in the way of pics and gameplay videos the game looks quite good.

Ghisy · « **Reply #638 on:** November 18, 2006, 09:49:42 AM »

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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
Maybe I'm missing something, but why are the visuals of Red Steel attacked so much?

Probably because they're comparing them to 360 or PS3 "standards", which is really stupid IMO.
Most people still don't understand the Wii concept, oh well, too bad for them!

Kairon · « **Reply #639 on:** November 18, 2006, 09:54:14 AM »

Playing = Believing.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Magik · « **Reply #640 on:** November 18, 2006, 12:56:17 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ghisy
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
Maybe I'm missing something, but why are the visuals of Red Steel attacked so much?

Probably because they're comparing them to 360 or PS3 "standards", which is really stupid IMO.
Most people still don't understand the Wii concept, oh well, too bad for them!

I think its more of people comparing Red Steel's visuals to that of Resident Evil 4 or Zelda than to 360/PS3 standards.

A couple more Red Steel reviews have surfaced as well. 5/10 from EDGE and 5/10 from 1up.

Kairon · « **Reply #641 on:** November 18, 2006, 01:13:00 PM »

GameTrailers gives it a video review score of 7.8.

Personally, I find that my feelings are bouyed by watching video of the game in action. Exciting!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Kairon · « **Reply #642 on:** November 18, 2006, 01:18:52 PM »

ComputerAndVideogames gives Red Steel an 8.0.

1Up gives Red Steel an [edit]SEE BELOW[/edit]

Both scores are much higher than I expected, especially the 1up score.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Magik · « **Reply #643 on:** November 18, 2006, 01:20:25 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
ComputerAndVideogames gives Red Steel an 8.0.

1Up gives Red Steel an 8.5.

Both scores are much higher than I expected, especially the 1up score.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Uh, the 1up score is 5 out of 10.

Kairon · « **Reply #644 on:** November 18, 2006, 01:22:03 PM »

Whoops! I confused the bigger average score meter on the left for 1ups own tiny little 5/10 graphic.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Smoke39 · « **Reply #645 on:** November 18, 2006, 01:25:32 PM »

That 8.5 is the user rating. 1up gave it a 5.

edit: lol

Jin-X · « **Reply #646 on:** November 18, 2006, 01:58:55 PM »

Ok I don't think I've ever seen a game where its reviews were so all over the map. I mean you really have to read the reviews, some of them say the exact opposite things, some say the graphics are crap, others say they're good. They looked alright to me in the commercial. It's almost like some got the final version and others erroneously got shipped a beta version or something.

Here's 1up:

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Wii games might not push as many polygons as Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3 games, but we do know that they don't have to look this bad. Normally I wouldn't complain, but at this year's Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), Ubisoft showed off a snazzy trailer that it promised was actual gameplay footage. That was clearly not the case -- the game doesn't look anything like that infamous target video. It looks worse...a lot worse.

Graphics alone wouldn't matter that much, but I actually had a hard time getting through the game because of the poor visuals. For example, a large number of levels require you to take out sneaky snipers who position themselves on ledges far from your sight -- pretty common, sure -- but when it comes time to return the fire, the textures for the snipers are so bad that only way to find them is to let them shoot you (and hope you don't die) and then trace the fire back to where they are hiding. Even then half the time I couldn't find the enemy and had to rely on my pointer turning red to signify I finally found the source of my frustration.

Here's CVG:

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Even with technical limitations of the Wii relative to it's high-def competitors, Red Steel looks great, particularly the levels set in Tokyo. Continuing the oriental theme, the interiors are impressively well decorated with the minor details that bring an environment to life; everyday household objects scattered around rooms, wall decorations, lamps, cupboards, boxes, pot plants and countless other details are everywhere you look.

Some of the textures look a bit 'GameCube', but you can forgive that when the Wii's extra grunt has been put to use for gorgeous beam lighting shining through windows, air vents and even bullet holes, slick reflective floors and stunning warping effects used for heat haze or corrugated glass.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #647 on:** November 18, 2006, 02:34:06 PM »

Once again, I bring forth Geist and even Chibi Robo.

Both games got notoriously harsh reviews for issues that can be forgiven or ignored, and I think Red Steel is heading down that path.

I mean, Game Informer's review of Chibi Robo was BAD. It got to the point where they declared the game as being the perfect punishment for children and kept saying it was nothing but than a chore simulator, while in reality the game is a story based game in which completion of missions rewards the players with unique characters and stories as well as an amazing sense of discovery and fun.

I wanna see more reviews, as well as user feedback (S_B if you can hear this, we need your opinion ASAP!) before I put my claim in stone.

trip1eX · « **Reply #648 on:** November 18, 2006, 04:16:20 PM »

Yeah I loved Chibi. I think the hardcore are most offended by Red Steel. The reviews that liked it I think had a more casual gamer attitude. Not a snobbish attitude. I don't know. IF IGN or Gamespy give it a 5 I think I'll have to wait for a price drop although part me wants to play it more. I can always sell it on Ebay I guess tho.

SixthAngel · « **Reply #649 on:** November 18, 2006, 04:21:09 PM »

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Originally posted by: pap64
I mean, Game Informer's review of Chibi Robo was BAD. .

I just got the new free GI today when you join gamestop and the magazine has probably one page about Nintendo, much less the Wii, and it has reviews of all the new ps3 games. The new name should be the playstation and xbox magazine. They have ignored the Wii 100%, they even have an article that says "could the xbox 360 and ps3 be the last great consoles?" like the Wii is nonexistent.

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