Author Topic: Tomb Raider on a Nintendo Console?? (Read 19355 times)

ThePerm · « **on:** March 31, 2006, 11:24:43 AM »

I've never been a big fan of the Tomb Raider franchise, except when it was on saturn and it was part 1, and pretty new and respectable. Now according to IGN it is coming to gamecube, but because its so close to April 1, I'm not sure if I should beleive it, given Tomb Raiders lack of a past on previous Nintendo systems.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/699/699529p1.html

Ian Sane · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:32:39 AM »

This would be pretty weird if true. For this game to be annouced for the PS2 and Xbox and then suddenly show up on the Cube? Cube ports just don't really happen anymore. I personally don't care because it's freakin' Tomb Raider.

It would be an odd April Fool's because it's not really goofy or funny or anything like that. It's just a multiplatform game that people aren't that interested in getting ported. Usually an April Fool's joke involves something major that gets people talking so you can say "ha! Fooled you!"

Tomb Raider has appeared on the Gameboy Color so technically it's been on Nintendo systems before. Not that portable presence means anything for consoles.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:38:06 AM »

This news isn't reflected on eidos.com or tombraider.com yet, but it doesn't have that April Fool's "feel." My first reaction is that this one's for real, but it could certainly be a hoax perpetrated by a very boring person. The Reggie reference is the only thing at all odd in the story.

IceCold · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2006, 01:22:37 PM »

Oh hey, this is Kaplan's "big announcement" for the Cube..

TMW · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2006, 03:57:05 PM »

First...the Nintendocentric joke about Reggie seems a little off.

Also, they misspelled somersault. It reeks of April Fools to me, as well.

And...well, if its anything like Angel of Darkness, they're probably gonna blame poor sales on the Gamecube version, somehow.

Djunknown · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2006, 04:42:44 PM »

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath on this one either. But this line does make me wonder:

Quote
"Lara likes Reggie? No, seriously, our new management team believes that the Nintendo platforms have been neglected and that the platforms provide a great opportunity for Tomb Raider to gain exposure to a new audience."

Bolding is obviously mine. Its safe to say that the old team gave the big N the cold shoulder; Lego Star Wars did eventually grace the 'Cube. I'm approaching this very cautiously though.

Has Crystal Dynamics ever made a horrible game before? Can't think of any at the top of my head. Couple with the fact Toby Gard's on board, maybe it'll have the Prince of Persia effect (Remember Jordan Mechner had a plump role in the creation of that title.). At least it couldn't be any worse than Angel of Darknes...

Svevan · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2006, 06:50:56 PM »

We received a financial report from SCI Entertainment ourselves, and it's (for all intents and purposes) legit. We just posted it on PGC. So dig, it's happening.

Edit: IGN misspelled somersault purposefuly, changing it to SUMMERsault, the time of the year when this port will be released.

Nosferat2 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2006, 03:06:54 AM »

I always wanted to play tomb raider. Never have before, because i never own anything other than a Nintendo console. Hopefully its good cause in buying it. I heard The first was very very good....

capamerica · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2006, 09:14:53 AM »

They might be releasing it for the GameCube in hopes that people picking up the Revolution might pick it up. I wouldn't be surprised to see it released close to the same day as the Revolutions release. If this game was being released a year ago I don't think we would see a GameCube port.

By making it a GameCube title they wouldn't have to worry about making the game use the Rev controller. Its kind of like how Nintendo is thinking that Zelda:TP could help sell Revolutions as well.

I think they know the Revolution is going to be a Hit and they want to jump on the bandwagon. Also a DS port is smart as well since the DS is kicking the PSP's ass.

I am a bit surprised that they are making a GBA port, but hey if you get it on every system your going to make more money. And hell they did make a Tomb Raider game for the N-Gage.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #9 on:** April 07, 2006, 12:45:28 AM »

You know this is funny because Eidos said they were never going to do anything for another Nintendo console. I wonder if Nintendo is using the Revolution for leverage. (Since it seems most developers want to at least try something for it.

Svevan · « **Reply #10 on:** April 07, 2006, 07:08:03 AM »

As stated earlier, it has more to do with the change in leadership at SCI Entertainment and Eidos. They've finally decided that supporting Nintendo might not only be profitable, but help generate more sales of the systems, encouraging future properties. If Legends really is the shiznat, then they want it to be everywhere, and it was wisely pointed out by CapAmerica that Revolution backwards compatability doesn't hurt the situation. I wouldn't be surprised if, after all this "GameCube is dead" talk, that we see more games developed for 360 and PS2 that get ported to GameCube even after Revolution is out. The two systems are in one box, so the userbase is built in, and the GC will have a larger audience for the first year of Rev's life.

ruby_onix · « **Reply #11 on:** April 07, 2006, 11:07:29 PM »

I remember way back around the time when Tomb Raider 1 was coming out, I read an interview with the series creator and he said that he was extremely interested in the N64, and that he believed Tomb Raider could've been even better had he been allowed to make it for the N64, but Sony was terrified of Mario 64, and once they got the idea that Tomb Raider had the potential to be a "Mario 64 killer" they offered Eidos an absurd amount of money to keep Tomb Raider off the N64. The Saturn and PC were fine, but the N64 was a looming juggernaut, and Sony took it very seriously (Nintendo said "LOL Sony! Go spend your money on exclusive games! See what good that'll do you!"). He said that he'd try to get around the blockade by calling the game "Lara Croft" or something, or just inventing an entirely new franchise.

But then after Tomb Raider was finished, Eidos told him that they expected a yearly cash-in of Tomb Raider proportions, so he was ordered to use the existing PSX game engine and slap together a sequel for the PSX, or if he really wanted to, he could make a new series for the N64, as long as he could build it from scratch in under 12 months.

He didn't want to slap together a Tomb Raider sequel, and making the N64 game in just one year seemed impossible, and after seeing how Eidos was endlessly whoring out Tomb Raider, he decided to quit. The yearly PSX games which beat the series into the ground were made without him.

Angel of Darkness was supposed to be Tomb Raider's big "revival" game, but it sucked and flopped, supposedly because Eidos insisted that the game had to ship at the same time that the second movie was hitting the theaters, even though the developers said it wasn't ready, but it shipped and it sucked and the devs got blamed.

Now Eidos supposedly has new management, a new developer, and they even got the original creator back, and apparently he has a lot of creative freedom. Here's hoping the game turns out great, and that the GameCube port doesn't suffer.

18 Days · « **Reply #12 on:** April 08, 2006, 02:45:34 AM »

Tomb Raider is horrible sexist trash, not unlike the avatar of capamerica. I am am not surprised to see his type in this thread.

While I'm not going to complain about this games surprise port to Gamecube, it still belongs on Xbox with it's fat sweaty nerds.

Renny · « **Reply #13 on:** April 08, 2006, 06:11:54 AM »

Hey. The GameCube has fat, sweaty nerds, too. Though fewer, there's still a market there. It's that kind of stereotyping (e.g., that no fat and sweaty nerds own the GameCube) that is hurting the Cube's 3rd-party support.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #14 on:** April 08, 2006, 01:51:01 PM »

Daisy 64 > Lara PSX

ruby_onix · « **Reply #15 on:** April 08, 2006, 04:02:50 PM »

Adult Skuld is not sexist.

capamerica · « **Reply #16 on:** April 08, 2006, 06:16:12 PM »

What did I say?
What type of person am I?
I'm amazed at your skills of tell what a person is liked based on a single icon. Maybe you should.. oh I don't know talk to the person before assuming what type of person they are. Also maybe you should go out and watch episode 26 of Ah My Goddess as well.

I've never even support the Tomb Raider series. I've thought the series up until now has been awful and down right degrading. I've only purchased 1 Tomb Raider game and that was Tomb Raider II and I picked it up cause I was curious on what the big deal was. And I was very disappointed with it.

The Demo for the New Tomb Raider game just showed up on XboxLive yesterday and I figured I would give it a try and see how it was and if it was still just as bad as the others.
Well I'm happy to say its actually pretty damn good, at least from what I've play in the Demo the game is much different from the other Tomb Raider games. Infact its like Price of Persia meets Indiana Jones. They have even toned down Lara and she isn't as skanky as she was in all the other Tomb Raider games. Infact while I was playing it one of my friends pointed out that they have downsized her breasts and they are not as huge as they were before.

After playing the demo I've got to say I'm kind of interested in the game now, which is a first for a Tomb Raider game for me. I might just have to rented it when it comes out and try it out and see if it stays just as good as the demo.

vudu · « **Reply #17 on:** April 10, 2006, 09:41:03 AM »

In all fairness, your avatar is really four icons in one--I think you can get a reasonable picture of someone based on four icons.

ThePerm · « **Reply #18 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:39:56 PM »

does 18 days even know the meaning of sexist? Sexist is a prejudice against another sex. Mostly it is the belief that one sex is inferior, or incapable of doing something the other sex can. He just has an icon that is risqué. It could be seen as objectification, however the idea of objectification is pretty poor. Do you knopw how much trouble it would be to be for me to be in as good shape as Josh Holloway? Theres a man whop is objectified. Is it sexist. No, but any hostility placed towards risqué pictures as forum avatars is poorly placed. In art school we are taught the human body is probably the most attractive form, indeed our natural instinct SHOULD allow us to beleive so. I'm not talking about specific shapes. I'm talking just any average person. That is those with deformities bother us more than people who don't. Anyways, e3 28 days!!!!!

joshnickerson · « **Reply #19 on:** April 11, 2006, 02:31:18 PM »

What was this thread about again? I just spent the last half hour staring at capamerica's avatar.

Oh yeah. If the game doesn't suck, I might just check it out.

rossi46 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2006, 01:53:05 AM »

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Originally posted by: 18 Days
Tomb Raider is horrible sexist trash, not unlike the avatar of capamerica. I am am not surprised to see his type in this thread.

While I'm not going to complain about this games surprise port to Gamecube, it still belongs on Xbox with it's fat sweaty nerds.

Lara Croft has done more to raise the profile of the free-thinking independant women's movement than any other single entity since the suffragettes. To call the TR series sexist is, fankly, absurd. Maybe you would prefer women to 'know their place' , stay in the kitchen with the kids and leave all that nasty adventuring to the menfolks.

The game itself is good, I have it on PC and PSP, and I look forward to buying it for my 'cube.

Kairon · « **Reply #21 on:** July 01, 2006, 10:48:16 AM »

The free-thinking women's movement needs realistic and balanced portrayal of woman as equal human beings, not caricatures of women as only worth their salt when they rise to worth only by virtue of masculine values: sex appeal and violence.

If you think that Tomb Raider is a step forward for today's feminism, then I guess you could call all of Japan's anime "tank-girl" genre as a step forward for feminism. And believe me, they ain't.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

rossi46 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:07:02 AM »

I think it's possible to read too much into the whole situation. The Lara Croft character is simply a woman who can look after herself and doesn't stand for any nonsense from anyone. Those traits are admirable in anyone, regardless of genre. Whatever the argument is, I for one am rejoicing in the fact that TR:Legends is being released for the Gamecube.

As for the Tank-Girl thing: TG's far too random and arty-farty to be taken seriously, IMO

cheers

Paul

Kairon · « **Reply #23 on:** July 01, 2006, 01:15:04 PM »

Hmm... would you say that the Tomb Raider MOVIES are good for feminism?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

rossi46 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 01, 2006, 01:21:08 PM »

I would say that the portrayal and promotion of strong, independant women, in any media is a good thing. And does far more for feminism than the painfully thin, coke-snorting horrors that are 'supermodels' ever could. Who would you rather have your daughters aspire to be? Lara Croft or Kate 'no-septum' Moss?

Paul

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