Author Topic: IF Revolution still is a code name... (Read 34377 times)

31 Flavas · « **Reply #75 on:** March 24, 2006, 06:22:43 AM »

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Originally posted by: Strell

You know there is completely a right and wrong way to handle PR, and she clearly doesn't know what the distinction is. Because this isn't simply being secretive, this is flat-out ignoring and concentrated attempts to be as unhelpful as possible. I'd almost take a generic Gamestop employee telling me God of War 3 is in development for the Rev over her bullshit.

If you keep asking questions you're not supposed to ask, you eventually going to get comical or flippant responses. Everyone at Nintendo has told you, E3 and E3 only is when you'll find out, and thats the final answer. So why are you even surpised at the responses?

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I mean here's a woman telling IGN that she almost literally doesn't know a damn thing about the system outside of the bare minimum ("It will have games! Games you play! ....With Controllers!"), and we're supposedly 8 months or so away from launch. That's retarded. They could hire any one of us and we could do a better job, and I'm not even kidding.

Oh boo hoo, Nintendo won't spoil E3 for you. Too bad, so sad....

Strell · « **Reply #76 on:** March 24, 2006, 07:26:23 AM »

You know, you completely missed the point. I don't know if it was over your head or if you're just an idiot, or perhaps both, but you didn't even come close to making a worthwhile response.

I'm not pissed about lack of information. I'm pissed about how the lack of information is being delivered. I'm also pissed about how someone who is apparently high up at NOA is acting like a child.

I don't know if you understand this, but PR people are paid to do, well, PR. That's their entire damn job. They are the line between the faceless, secretive corporation and the public. So when they start acting like clueless jerks and not even attempting to be helpful, there's a problem, period. You're making up excuses for this woman because "she gets heckled and annoyed." I could understand that for, say, Miyamoto, Iwata, or other persons actively involved in development. That's their primary role. They are the ones who are allowed to be a bit more flippant, not the people they are paying to do the PR job to begin with.

That's like saying a bartender should fill up a glass half full because he's tired of people asking him to make them drinks.

31 Flavas · « **Reply #77 on:** March 24, 2006, 08:31:15 AM »

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Originally posted by: Strell

I'm not pissed about lack of information. I'm pissed about how the lack of information is being delivered. I'm also pissed about how someone who is apparently high up at NOA is acting like a child.

Honestly, "Tell us about Revolution", there have 3 events now, at least, to answer this broad question. E3 2005, TGS 2005, and GDC 2006. You know what revolution is. The question is not being asked to gather general information, its being asked to get hints at what we don't know about revolution. So as the saying goes... "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer". In otherwords, if you ask questions you shouldn't be asking and you'll get comical / flipant responses.

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I don't know if you understand this, but PR people are paid to do, well, PR. That's their entire damn job.

In case its over your head, PR also means "They say what the company wants them to say". The company (Nintendo) does not want them to say anything about revolution that isn't already public knowlege. It's a given that Nintendo has also told them that if forbidden or overly broad questions are asked, smile, laugh, and give a funny response. So take a hike you momo.

Ceric · « **Reply #78 on:** March 24, 2006, 08:46:14 AM »

I personally would wish they would go back to sea type names for codenames like Atlantis and Dolphin. Or just make it a general rule to no longer release information to the public vy the code name. Or even make the codename so hideous no one would like it.

As I said earlier Nintendo lost it's right to change names when they wanted to change the DS to Nitro. What were they thinking. It should have been the other way around Nitro to DS. Nitro is so much a codename.

Everyone does have a point. When you do PR everything you say should put you company in a better light and if you don't have anything to say like that then "No comment." When your developers are doing a better job of PR then your hired PR people I would personally fire your PR person. Unless they do the best job ever in the background stuff. Then I give them a "new" position doing that and let someone else be the public face.

BigJim · « **Reply #79 on:** March 24, 2006, 09:18:02 AM »

IGN: What's at E3?
NOA: Stuff.

It would also help to ask the right questions. Everybody by now expects the big wall of spin and non-answers, so figure out an angle and don't be so open-ended. PGC tends to be a bit better at this it seems.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #80 on:** March 24, 2006, 09:35:49 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ceric
As I said earlier Nintendo lost it's right to change names when they wanted to change the DS to Nitro. What were they thinking. It should have been the other way around Nitro to DS. Nitro is so much a codename.

Nitro was the codename. I remember reading rumors about a project called Nitro long before the DS was revealed. It is odd that Nintendo doesn't release as much information about their handhelds under codenames as they do about their home consoles. I remember reading tons about Project Reality, Dolphin, and now Revolution before learning the official names. That wasn't the case with Atlantis and Nitro.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #81 on:** March 24, 2006, 09:53:04 AM »

Bill and I have decided that the Nintendo Kinesis is the best choice for a name.
The Nintendo Paragon comes up in a close second.

Best names possible.

The Omen · « **Reply #82 on:** March 24, 2006, 12:12:08 PM »

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So as the saying goes... "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer". In otherwords, if you ask questions you shouldn't be asking and you'll get comical / flipant responses.

Unfortunately for you entire argument to work, you have to ignore that a PR person's job is to answer the same monotonous questions over and over again with a wink and a smile, not a snarl and a smirk. A PR person is supposed to stoke the flames of wonder , without crushing it, by using vague non answers. In this case, she answers in such an annoying way, it's ridiculous. This 'Beth' should be put out to pasture.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #83 on:** March 24, 2006, 02:18:39 PM »

What? More like her answers were great and completely re-lit my anticipation for E3...

(Nintendo Kinesis for the win!)

wandering · « **Reply #84 on:** April 15, 2006, 09:14:55 PM »

How about Nintendo Reality Simulator?

Plugabugz · « **Reply #85 on:** April 18, 2006, 02:32:37 AM »

Nintendo Wal-Mart.

thejeek · « **Reply #86 on:** April 18, 2006, 03:23:13 AM »

Nintendo Killah Sex Power Extra Adult XXX No Kiddeeeeeees Allowed, Oh you'll be Sooooo Growed Up, killing things and all, Purple Edition

Requiem · « **Reply #87 on:** April 18, 2006, 03:25:37 AM »

Sources say it's Nintendo BlueWave

and by sources I mean internet

and by internet I mean bullshit

thejeek · « **Reply #88 on:** April 18, 2006, 03:26:54 AM »

That's not as good as my name...

EasyCure · « **Reply #89 on:** April 20, 2006, 06:43:48 AM »

oh man you guys crack me up. P-nes...thats just GREAT.
im not being sarcastic either i've been really really sick and sh*tty so i needed a good laugh like that.

Like alot of you the Revolution name as stuck with me. At first i didnt know what to make of it, it didnt sound like it would be a cool name for a video game system if it ever stuck but atleast it was a better code name than dolphin. the more i learned about the system the more i liked an appreciated it. all it does is tell you what Nintendo is trying to do with this machine.
if it does change though, i've always thought this would be the perfect system to continue the NES name with.
i know i've said this before in some other thread but ever since the first pictures of the revolution materialized, more-so the ones where it is set horizontal, i've pictured it as an NES in my head because it was simple. then after reading news of its virtual console and beign able to d/l so many classic games, i wanted it SO bad to look more like an NES. hopefully some of you have seen the mock-up photo on IGN where the rev was given an NES inspired paintjob. my jaw hit the floor when i saw it only because i've envisioned that in my head for a long time now.
why not call it NES-5? if sony can get away with calling their systems ps 1, 2, and 3, and microsoft calling their new system xbox 360 (by the way what does that even mean? i never cared enough to find out before), then why not just call the revolution NES-5. to 'noobs' it'll make it appear as it is 2 generations ahead of playstation (and with that innovative new controller, it might as well be) and it will truley be an "entertainment system" and besides...its the biggest throwback to retro gaming. it just makes sense. N5 sounds cool only in that abbreviation. playstation 3 and ps3 both sound better coming out of someones mouth than Nintendo 5 does.
the whole Nintendo Go thing wont work in america. people wont get it, it just menas 5 in japenese. Nintendo 5 really doesnt sound good, but N5 does. the problem with just calling it N5 is that some people might not realize its a nintendo machine.
it should either be NES-5 or revolution. if it has to be NES-5 than they should reiterate "revolution" in EVERY add for it so that anyone that soley new it as the revolution will be familiarized with it and all of us who have gotten used to calling it the revolution will continue to do so..

either that or P-nes!

thejeek · « **Reply #90 on:** April 20, 2006, 10:46:55 AM »

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the problem with just calling it N5 is that some people might not realize its a nintendo machine.

Given the current perception of Nintendo amongst some of the target market and the general incompetance of Nintendo's marketing department, that might not be a bad thing...

[EDIT:] Actually to be fair to Nintendo's marketing department, they're sponsoring some comedy on Channel 4 here in the UK with DS adverts that aren't too bad (although the in-game footage looks really bad for some reason)

wandering · « **Reply #91 on:** April 22, 2006, 01:49:51 AM »

When a brand is in trouble, it's better to promote it than it is to bury it. Why do you think Nintendo used the Nintendo brand for their latest portable instead of the more popular 'Game Boy'? They wanted to promote their brand for the Revolution.

Edfishy · « **Reply #92 on:** April 22, 2006, 08:33:16 PM »

I've always thought NES5 would be perfectly suited for the Revolution, mostly due to the fact that it almost resembles, "Ness".

Artimus · « **Reply #93 on:** April 22, 2006, 08:38:17 PM »

I don't know if anything but Revolution can fly now...

Strell · « **Reply #94 on:** April 25, 2006, 06:26:48 PM »

I have decided it should be called the Reggie. Not even the Nintendo Reggie. Just the Reggie. And his snarling face should be plastered on the front of the machine, ready to eat any machines near it. As such, this is how it will be powered. You will feed it Sega Master Systems, and it will give it power.

COWER IN FEAR AT THE AWESOMENESS THAT IS THE REGGIE, MORTALS.

If they call it the RS as speculated, I personally will go to random stores and write "Reggie's System" on the retail boxes.

As much as it pains me to no longer hope for P-NES, I feel the Reggie is a mighty name indeed.

Kairon · « **Reply #95 on:** April 25, 2006, 07:54:48 PM »

Does Reggie have a last name?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

mantidor · « **Reply #96 on:** April 25, 2006, 07:59:31 PM »

Fils-Aime

Kairon · « **Reply #97 on:** April 25, 2006, 08:05:32 PM »

Oh whoops. For real? Haha... I never thought of that as his last name, just as an extension of the melodic ass-kickery of his first name.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

trip1eX · « **Reply #98 on:** April 25, 2006, 08:13:56 PM »

Nintendo RS

MattVDB · « **Reply #99 on:** April 27, 2006, 09:43:22 PM »

Despite the fact that I'm one of the few who actually have already warmed up to the name "Wii" (although I will admit it awkward using for the first time today in a sentence), I found it incredibly appropriate to quote Ian. You know, that man may just be genius:

" I'm wondering if "Revolution" is still a codename due to some difference of opinion between NCL and NOA. NOA probably likes the Revolution name but NCL might have some other idea that would not go over well in North America and so they're still discussing it."

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Author Topic: IF Revolution still is a code name... (Read 34377 times)