Author Topic: Revolution Redesign (Read 12588 times)

Dirk Temporo · « **on:** January 26, 2006, 07:18:52 AM »

I know, I know. The system isn't out yet, so it's early to be talking about it, but I've been thinking. With GB, Nintendo started the whole system redesign concept, to make stuff smaller. Now, this has never (to my knowledge) carried into their home consoles, and I must say, I'm thankful for that. My question is that, with the popularity of the PSone and the PStwo, do you think that Nintendo might, in the future, redesign Revolution. I know it seems silly, considering the system's already itty bitty, but do you think they might?

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1 on:** January 26, 2006, 07:22:16 AM »

It'll be so small it can fit in your pocket!

1day · « **Reply #2 on:** January 26, 2006, 07:30:28 AM »

They did have a smaller SNES but seriously, the REV is incredibly small already (thankfully).

JonLeung · « **Reply #3 on:** January 26, 2006, 07:30:35 AM »

The NES was redesigned to be top-loading, but this was after the Super NES was already out for a while so I think it's pretty rare.

There was also a redesigned Super NES, slightly sleeker, which is also rare.

Later N64s came in different colours, and there was also a Pikachu N64, but I doubt any of those are common either, and these redesigns were mostly just aesthetic as far as I know.

GameCubes always came in different colours, but later GameCubes had the component output part omitted because Nintendo didn't think anyone used it. (I do, but I guess I'm in the minority.) (Not enough people bought the Panasonic Q version for that to be relevant, either.)

All these console redesigns came late in their "lives", shortly before (or in the case of the NES, after) the release of the next generation console. (With the exception of the Panasonic Q, but whatever.)

So we could very well see a redesign of the Revolution, in fact it's likely, but if the past is any indication, we'll be salivating over the possibilities of the sixth Nintendo console before a Revolution Revision is available.

In other words: I wouldn't hold out for a later one, it doesn't seem worth the wait. Handhelds see more revisions because portability and visibility (and style) is more important on the go.

Ceric · « **Reply #4 on:** January 26, 2006, 09:16:35 AM »

This might sound weird but when Nintendo showed the concept system for the Rev they made the disclaimer that this is not the finished product and it would only get smaller from there. So you might get your redesign right out of the gate.

JonLeung: You bring a tear to my eyes :'-) Here I thought I was the only one. Do you have a Network adapter and GBPlayer too? Isn't the picture so much better?

Arbok · « **Reply #5 on:** January 26, 2006, 09:17:16 AM »

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Originally posted by: JonLeung
There was also a redesigned Super NES, slightly sleeker, which is also rare.

I got one of those, my Target was giving them away free to anyone who got Kirby Superstar (shouldn't that have been the other way around?).

Pale · « **Reply #6 on:** January 26, 2006, 09:35:16 AM »

Don't buy a rev at launch!!! They will just redesign it after a year!

But don't buy that redesign either, because they will just redesign that after a year!

Wait, you don't want that one either! It's gonna get redesigned after a year!

Ian Sane · « **Reply #7 on:** January 26, 2006, 09:35:39 AM »

Portables make more sense to redesign because they're an accessory people carry around that is seen by everyone. It's almost like a fashion statement so that's why there are so many different colours. It's silly but the same logic applies to cell phones.

A console sits in one spot and isn't really seen by strangers. So having different "looks" isn't as needed.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2006, 01:51:49 PM »

Some of the "functions" that Nitnendo is include at least reported on by IGN make is more of a canidate to be carried around to others houses to play games. Such as the controller so you have you own screen, the one disc multiplayer that some games may have. And by having it small from the start will make it easier for those who like to have (FPS) tournament. (I have them at my house with Halo only because I know few people, who like the game. I never play it other wise. The scary thing is I'm better then some of the player who play it a lot more that I do. My little brother is another story altogether....)

King of Twitch · « **Reply #9 on:** January 26, 2006, 02:34:21 PM »

I'm in the 'it's so small they won't need a redesign' camp, though knowing them, they'll probably remove the power cable to save money on production. Post-Christmas 2007 models won't power on, and fanboys will complain they moved the start button out of reach. The power cable will only be available from their website of course, and the backwards compatibility will be removed.

mantidor · « **Reply #10 on:** January 26, 2006, 02:43:04 PM »

I thought you were talking about a redesign before launch, similar to what happened between the first DS prototype and the final product. I suppose we can maybe see a few rounded corners in the remote or the box.

iMoron · « **Reply #11 on:** January 26, 2006, 02:45:32 PM »

I wonder...

Will there be a redesing of the GameCube.... imagine if they made it front loading like the rev, but of course it should end up a bit smaller than the rev in some ways... maybe not as thin but its with should be smaller... and its legth... only a bit taller (compared to the Revolution) to place the controler ports at the front...

Ummm.... mokup frenzy, lets try and redesing the cube... for fun.

asides from that.... I wonder if the Revolution will get smaller than its curent (proposed) size... the DVD would limit its reduction... but if they forego the controler ports it would allow for an small reduction in size I guess.... still it would be a bit hard to visualize, but posible...

mokup frenzyyy....

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #12 on:** January 26, 2006, 02:49:31 PM »

You know if the Revolution is cheep enough I don't think there will be much of a market for a redesigned Gamecube, since with Gamecube backwards compatiblity people would just buy the Revolution for a few extra dollars. ($50 or more)

jasonditz · « **Reply #13 on:** January 26, 2006, 03:56:17 PM »

Sega was doing redesigns of it's older systems too... I think it's virtually always an attempt to lower manufacturing costs, not to add features the way, for instance, the GBA SP did.

Indeed, the slimline PS2 models removed some less-often-used features, like the hard drive bay.

BigJim · « **Reply #14 on:** January 26, 2006, 03:56:44 PM »

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Originally posted by: MJRx9000
I'm in the 'it's so small they won't need a redesign' camp, though knowing them, they'll probably remove the power cable to save money on production. Post-Christmas 2007 models won't power on, and fanboys will complain they moved the start button out of reach. The power cable will only be available from their website of course, and the backwards compatibility will be removed.

As long as it helps Nintendo be profitable, I'll go along with everything they tell me to. All hail the bottom line. Only a broken market needs HD and two-handed controllers.

iMoron · « **Reply #15 on:** January 26, 2006, 04:40:07 PM »

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Originally posted by: BlkPaladin
You know if the Revolution is cheep enough I don't think there will be much of a market for a redesigned Gamecube, since with Gamecube backwards compatiblity people would just buy the Revolution for a few extra dollars. ($50 or more)

errr.... well! Look at the DS... it is backwards compatible with the GBA... yet Nintendo realeased the GB micro!!! And it cost $100... For $50 more (or $30 now) you could get the DS... but that didn't stop any from getting them "micros".

It would be a thing of, "if it is posible they will do it" kind of thing...

It could hapen after they lower the price of the Cube... they could sell the Cube2 for <$100... with build in GameBoy Player and WaveBird support! ... That would be great!

Requiem · « **Reply #16 on:** January 26, 2006, 04:43:59 PM »

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Originally posted by: iMoron
I wonder...

Will there be a redesing of the GameCube.... imagine if they made it front loading like the rev, but of course it should end up a bit smaller than the rev in some ways... maybe not as thin but its with should be smaller... and its legth... only a bit taller (compared to the Revolution) to place the controler ports at the front...

Ummm.... mokup frenzy, lets try and redesing the cube... for fun.

asides from that.... I wonder if the Revolution will get smaller than its curent (proposed) size... the DVD would limit its reduction... but if they forego the controler ports it would allow for an small reduction in size I guess.... still it would be a bit hard to visualize, but posible...

mokup frenzyyy....

Gamecube Portable?

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #17 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:06:05 PM »

That is nice but the volume button is in the wrong position it would leave a mark in you hand while you are playing. Maybe it would be better on the lid, or in front or back.

And could you image how expensive something like that would be.

iMoron · « **Reply #18 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:44:54 PM »

... err... naaa... thats not the tipe of thing they would do... maybe in a far future but not with the cube...

A simple redesign, keping it "console"... thats what I will try to draw, or mock up with the GIMP.

Requiem · « **Reply #19 on:** January 26, 2006, 06:22:40 PM »

You don't think there going to be able to do this is the near future (2-3 years from now)? Why? Have you seen some sub-notebooks?

The PSP is damn near the PS2.

Take away all the media capabilities and somehow juice up the battery life (maybe but more ram), and I bet this thing could become a reality.

Of course I think it isn't very pleasing aesthetically, so a nice rev-make-over would hit the spot.

Artimus · « **Reply #20 on:** January 26, 2006, 07:20:06 PM »

Nintendo never redesigns their consoles during their actual life-span. Won't happen here. There's really no reason...

KDR_11k · « **Reply #21 on:** January 27, 2006, 04:24:02 AM »

The analog sticks clip into the drive mechanism in that mockup. While there may be a handheld Gamecube in the future I'd say it's still a bit off, they have to change it to passive cooling and get a low-power disc drive (remember what the disc drive did to the PSP?).

Ian Sane · « **Reply #22 on:** January 27, 2006, 06:45:35 AM »

"Will there be a redesing of the GameCube"

There was a redesign for the NES and SNES but not the N64. The first two consoles were big so Nintendo tried to milk them for all they were worth after they were replaced by a newer console. But the N64 was considered a "failure" and thus Nintendo pretty much completely abandoned it the second they got the chance. The Cube is in the same boat as the N64. I figure the second the Rev is out the Cube will disappear. There's no point redesigning a console that was never that popular to begin with. It wouldn't spark any new sales and the console itself has a negative image that it would be best for Nintendo to disassociate themselves from as soon as they can.

Artimus · « **Reply #23 on:** January 27, 2006, 07:29:16 AM »

There's also another reason not to do a Cube redesign: Rev is backwards compatible.

JonLeung · « **Reply #24 on:** January 27, 2006, 08:21:08 AM »

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Originally posted by: Artimus
There's also another reason not to do a Cube redesign: Rev is backwards compatible.

So is the DS but they made the Micro anyway. But then again, as was already mentioned, you look at handhelds more, you handle handhelds more, handhelds are more visibly seen in public, so a redesign in lighting/portability/style is more important in this field. Yet I can't help but feel like the Micro was lackluster in that the DS was already out - functionality trumps all, apparently. So maybe in that sense I would agree that backwards compatibility counts for something.

Also like I mentioned - the Cube was kind of redesigned already...it still looks the same for the most part, except for the tiny detail about the omission of the component output part - though maybe that doesn't count because it's not an overall aesthetic change. Yeah, there probably won't be anything more than that though, I also agree with you there.

I don't know if the 'Cube could be considered enough of a failure for Nintendo to totally disavow it, Ian. If that were the case, Nintendo's fetish for cost-cutting would probably not have backwards compatibility with the 'Cube. There are probably mechanisms for it to handle (and maybe also read) the smaller discs than the Revolution's, and those 'Cube-compatible controller and Memory Card ports count as something, too.

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