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Offline Infernal Monkey

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RE: No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2006, 02:05:11 AM »
Atlus sounds like a pretty excellent publisher. Extremely limited US distribution, no PAL releases at all. Best!

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RE:No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2006, 07:18:04 AM »
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Fair warning - when I purchased my copy of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney this afternoon, I was told that Trauma Center: Under The Knife has just gone out-of-print as well. That's a game I've been planning on buying, as I'm sure many other here are too. Act fast before it's too late! I'll probably pick it up this weekend.


i really wanted to buy trauma center(and still do), but unfortunately not a single store i went to had a copy(or ever did...i asked). whats the point of making a game if noone can buy the thing?

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RE: No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2006, 01:03:15 PM »
I picked-up Trauma Center this afternoon. All I can say is, like with Phoenix Wright - buy it now if you can find it.

Both games are awesome (as long as you don't mind a lot of reading). I know they are niche titles, but how neither game has achieved success truly puzzles me. 'Phoenix Wright' is a great concept which works surprisingly well as a game, and 'Trauma Center' just couldn't be pulled-off on any other system. Both games look & sound great and provide incredibly deep gameplay experiences..
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RE:No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2006, 02:02:19 PM »
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Atlus sounds like a pretty excellent publisher. Extremely limited US distribution, no PAL releases at all. Best!

I should probably try and explain.

Atlus of Japan is I guess a medium-sized developer/publisher, most well known for "Shin Megami Tensei", an RPG series that was called "the biggest RPG series you've never heard of" back in the SNES days. It's sales keep up with Square and Enix RPGs in Japan, but since it deals with demons and modern-day Japan, nobody thought it would ever be seen outside of Japan.

Then in the PSX/N64 days, a startup American translation/publishing company wanted to give SMT a chance, so they talked to Atlus and became "partners" with them, becoming "Atlus USA". They're actually independant from Atlus of Japan, and they don't bring over everything Atlus makes, just the stuff they like (which is most of it). And they pick up games made by other developers.

They brought over Quest's Ogre Battle games (up until SquareEnix bought them up), and the first Nippon Ichi strategy RPGs. After Disgaea made it big, they even helped Nippon Ichi set up NIS America, so they could bring over their games for themselves. Atlus USA apparently did half the work on NIS America's first game.

Atlus USA is really just a small company though, so since they're taking huge risks with the weird kind of games no other publishers want to touch, they minimize their risks by never sitting on a lot of unsold product. When bigger publishers look at a game, they'll say "there might be 500 people in America who want that game". So they either bet that it'll somehow sell 5000, or they just skip it, saying it's not worth their time. Atlus USA thinks 500 sales is better than zero, as long as they like the game, so that's how they do it.
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RE: No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2006, 02:39:42 PM »
Am I the only one who even mildly enjoyed Dodgeball?  Especially the GBA version?  Great games...
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RE: No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2006, 03:27:30 PM »
Bestbuy.com has Trauma Center in stock and shipping... if anyone's interested.

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RE:No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2006, 03:58:00 PM »
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Am I the only one who even mildly enjoyed Dodgeball?  Especially the GBA version?  Great games...



I loved both, the NES original and the GBA version (as a matter of fact, it's been in by DS' GBA slot for a while now).
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RE:No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2006, 10:47:58 PM »
I was recently updating my Game Collection at IGN and when I did a search for Pheonix Wright, it brought up a sequel for the DS. Anybody else heard of this? Or is IGN off their rocker?

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RE: No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2006, 10:53:30 PM »
from what I understand, Phoenix Wright has already been 3 gba games in Japan

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RE:No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2006, 11:11:36 PM »
I also heard of a sequel, but I don't think it's confirmed..

And yeah, there were GBA Phoenix games, but I think they were Japan-only.
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RE: No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2006, 01:43:09 PM »
wasn't there a language option in the Japanese version of the DS title? Any idea if the GBA ones do as well?

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RE: No more Phoenix Wright?
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2006, 02:01:14 PM »
As I understand it, there was Gyakuten Saiban 1 to 3 on the GBA. Then Gyakuten Saiban on the DS was an enhanced remake of GS1, and Capcom decided to make it a more sophisticated "international" kind of game, so they gave it a full English language option.

Since it was already English, Capcom USA decided to bring it over, deleted/locked the Japanese mode (apparently the average American finds exposure to other languages "offensive", not "sophisticated"), changed it's name to "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney", and made a number of other minor tweaks and adjustments to the game.

Gyakuten Saiban 4 is supposedly coming out next on the DS in Japan.
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