Topic: Twilight Princess to Use Revolution Controller

[WindyMan]

A UK magazine also reveals tentative launch dates for Zelda and Revolution in the country.

NGC Magazine has been around the United Kingdom for a few years now, so a scoop like this is likely legit.  Nintendo has informed the publication what's been going on with the new Zelda, and the details revealed might confirm some of the speculation that's come about from the delay.    

It appears that Twlight Princess will be compatible with the Revolution controller when played on the Revolution.  This doesn't mean that the title has been scrapped from the GameCube, as it will still be released as a GameCube game.  Inserting the Zelda disc into the backwards-compatible Revolution will enable the Revolution controller mode if desired.    

There were no further details on how exactly the controller would be used in the game, but NGC did offer some spectulation.  The most obvious use for the pointer half of the controller would be for swinging Link's sword around, and using the analog stick portion for movement, locking-on and shield control.  Further speculation included using the controller for pulling back on a bowstring for precise arrow shooting and controlling Epona with reins and a whip.    

With this revolutionary revelation came word of a possible release date of the game and the Revolution itself for the European territories.  "Late 2006" was the timeframe handed down for the new system's UK release, with Zelda "coming out close to the Revolution's launch date."  If the former is true, then that would mean Nintendo would presumably get the system out in North America around Thanksgiving as well, indicating a simulataneous worldwide launch.  If the latter is true, then Nintendo will be offering Zelda as a Revolution launch title at the same time as giving GameCube owners one last reason to use the system.    

This interesting development in the development of Zelda: Twlight Princess should make Nintendo's E3 2006 press conference at the Kodak Theater in Hollywood a lot more interesting.    

Thanks to radioheadrule83 at GAF for the heads-up!

[BiLdItUp1]

Hmm...they took the middle route...nice that they've add that functionality. I just hope that it hasn't been showhorned in, and also (somewhat meekly) that they'll have something for us to munch on in the mean time (any important Cube games on the horizon?)

[WindyMan]

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Originally posted by: BiLdItUp1
Hmm...they took the middle route...nice that they've add that functionality. I just hope that it hasn't been showhorned in, and also (somewhat meekly) that they'll have something for us to munch on in the mean time (any important Cube games on the horizon?)

Zelda is the only important GameCube game left.  If they do push it back another year, then Nintendo is basically acknowledging the death the the system and ensuring that the Revolution won't get off to a lackluster start.  Making sure the Revolution has a good start is eternally more important, if you ask me.

For all intents and purposes, the GameCube version of Twilight Princess is complete.  I bet they could release it now just for the GameCube and it would be perfect.  What Nintendo is likely doing now (and why they delayed it in the first place) is to add in the Revolution functionality, and perhaps even code in some graphical improvements.

I doubt it would take another year just to make the game work with the controller, let me just put it that way.

[King of Twitch]

This is shocking! I wonder how many other upcoming games they will do this for?

[BiLdItUp1]

I doubt too many others'll get the treatment. Windy, you're right - this is a good idea; it'll be great in terms of selling Rev. What could they be doing for another year? Building in a multiplayer-mode, a la Four Swords, except in full 3D with Rev graphics? This would make Zelda the Rev's killer app, both on the single- and multi-player sides! Damn, this is a good idea. We get f*cked over of course, since we have to wait and there'll be no more real Cube games in the meantime, but as I'm behind the time and my GC games collection is limited to 10-11 games, a couple of which I haven't finished, I'm sated. (I ain't exactly hardcore yet...owing to the fact that I have to manage my time between different media.)

[mantidor]

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Originally posted by: WindyMan

For all intents and purposes, the GameCube version of Twilight Princess is complete.  I bet they could release it now just for the GameCube and it would be perfect.  What Nintendo is likely doing now (and why they delayed it in the first place) is to add in the Revolution functionality, and perhaps even code in some graphical improvements.

If the game is really completed and they are holding it just to add some features I couldnt care less at all Ill kill a small animal, this seriously is pissing me off. To hell with the damn Rev, Nintendo promised us the ultimate Zelda game and now they are just going to shoehorn some rev functionality instead of making the game better? f!ck that.

[WindyMan]

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To hell with the damn Rev, Nintendo promised us the ultimate Zelda game and now they are just going to shoehorn some rev functionality instead of making the game better? f!ck that.

I don't think "shoehorn" is the right word to use.  This is Nintendo we're talking about, they don't mess around when it comes to Zelda games.

The game is going to be the ultimate Zelda game for the GameCube, and a hell of a "launch" title for the Revolution.  Probably.

[BiLdItUp1]

Yeah...I know I used the word myself, but I doubt Nintendo will f*ck up any sort of additional Rev functionality (honestly, they can't afford to) If the addition is going to be something involving sword combat, this could be a great title to show off the Rev with (again, I'm assuming that they're NOT going to f*ck that up, hopefully not too much to ask)

Another pt. in the article makes it seem like there will be a simultaneous worldwide launch. Microsoft attempted that this holiday season, and got burned by it because of shortages. At the same time, they burned everyone else, because they're all waiting to buy their 360s. So if they attempt this, they better do it right (e.g. no ridiculous shortages like the 360)

[odifiend]

I have some mixed feelings on this... I have no problem with the game being delayed to make it workable.  I was not impressed with the supposed April release of Zelda, as a GCN owner.  But to hold onto TP for an extra 7-8 months to add forward functionality seems ridiculous to me.   I like that Nintendo is trying to make the Gamecube last, but the effort almost seems wasted.  I suppose it is good that they are keeping their promise that Zelda will be released on GCN.
I would have less of a problem though if Zelda could be released in say July with the forward functionality.  

[Ian Sane]

Well this isn't entirely expected.  But still, f*ck, I don't want to buy a Rev to get "full access" to the game.  It might be something minor like the tingle tuner, which despite owning a GBA and link cable I never used, and that won't be too bad.  But if THIS is the reason for the delay I'm mighty pissed off.  I literally have bought only ONE Cube game all year.  I was willing to wait if it meant a better Cube game, but not a Rev game.

It will probably help the Rev out a bit and I do agree with Windy in that that is important.  Personally it's just a bummer.  I also hope they're not relying on Twilight Princess to sell Revs.  It is merely a BONUS and should be regarded as nothing more significant than that.  They still need REAL Rev killer apps at launch, games that can only be played on the Rev.

I also hope that Twilight Princess has not been altered to fit the "non-gamer" demographic of the Rev.  Or made simpler to accomodate the Rev controller design.  It should be the deep "real gamer" game that it was always meant to be on the Cube.  Nothing should be comprimised for the Rev.

One potential problem is that Nintendo might not demonstrate the controller well with this extra functionality.  For some people this might be the first game they play with the Rev controller.  If it's just a Cube game with a few nifty extras then it will make the controller look like a novelty item and that's not the first impression Nintendo should make.  But if they make it use the Rev controller too much they'll screw up the Cube version.  The Rev really is designed for original games.  Ports are never going to do it justice.  But this is a port.  If the new controller is not very compatible with current game design Nintendo themselves will expose that.

Of course if the Rev controller really is a new standard and old games translate perfectly to it then this will be a good demonstration.  My scepticism towards the whole controller in general prevents me from considering that a realistic possibility though.

The Rev in general is pretty much do or die anyway.  Nintendo's plan is either pure genius or pure stupidity.  

[Infernal Monkey]

I would rather Nintendo announce some actual Revolution games (PILOTWINGS PILOTWINGS PILOTWINGS) for the Revolution's launch, but I guess this is okay too!

[Ending Walker Tropic]

Oh no Mantidor! Did that stupid GB Color functanlity destroy Link's Awakening DX for you? What about that GBA support for the Oracle games? More like gaay am I rite?

[Nephilim]

I think we all knew this would happen, thu people still are complaining like Ian
because you cant 100% finish it on cube, but I doubt most of these complainers got all the statues within 2months, so waiting a few months for a rev ISNT that bad

[Mario]

Hopefully, it's merely something like fishing, where if you like, you can use the Revolutoin controller to throw the line instead of the analog stick and A button. I don't want anything involving the main game, like sword fighting, I want my GC controller to be 100% accurate with the game.

But then when they do that, people will be like "oh, the Revolution controller doesn't really add anything", so I think this is a lame decision regardless of how it's implemented.

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because you cant 100% finish it on cube, but I doubt most of these complainers got all the statues within 2months, so waiting a few months for a rev ISNT that bad

It's not about that, personally I want as much time in between Twilight Princess and Revolutoin releases as possible as well, which means I want TP earlier. I was happy about the delay at first, look at the other game that got a major delay on Cube, Pikmin 2, that turned out incredible, I was hoping they were actually adding to the game with TP as well, but if it's just to input lame rev controls I don't care.

I want an official Nintendo statement on this... or an interview with one of the developers.

[King of Twitch]

I forgot one thing; the Zelda box will no doubt say something like FORWARDS COMPATIBLE WITH THE UPCOMING NINTENDO REVOLUTION'S CONTROLLER! Which should do a good job advertising the system to Zelda buyers, but no doubt confuse them to no end as well.

[Mario]

Oh yeah, and Ian, you can hardly call yourself a hardcore gamer if you've only bought 1 cube game this year.

[BigJim]

"Nintendo has informed the publication what's been going on with the new Zelda..."

The story only states that they can "exclusively reveal" this information. Nintendo hasn't definitively revealed anything to anybody. This is all rumor. I'm not going to buy it until Nintendo or (ugh) IGN say something. Never heard of this mag... Have they ever even had a huge scoop before now?

I agree with Windy that the Rev's launch is more important than the Cube's end. Personally I think "Ah crap" about the delay, IF true. But has anybody else noticed how Nintendo's delays are almost always forgiven at large once we have the goods in our hands?

Hybrid games, in general, are a good idea while the platforms transition from one to the other. It can massively improve launch software sales, but it's somewhat lost since there aren't any other profound Cube titles coming out that we know of.  

[Gonmon]

Hey, guys. Remember that this is just a rumour, and not something substantially released by Nintendo themselves.

As for me, I'm taking this like I take all other rumours and speculations about TP: Not worth my time unless the big N steps up and says it personally.

After all, Reggie did say in a recent interview that the game would be launched in April, and Nintendo has COUNTLESS times stated that TP is going to be a Cube game and not a Revolution title. Oi.

Chill out guys. Just a rumour.

[KDR_11k]

The release date sounds suspicious. Late 2006 release for TP? That's way too late. Of course, if it takes three months to get from Japan to the US and 3 months to get ferom the US to Europe that's realistic but still.

[TheYoungerPlumber]

I think the delay was only partially for this reason.  I suspect there were other things they wanted to fit in (second quest, polished story/subquests), so they announced the delay and said, "throw everything in!"

[IceCold]

To PGC: I know that this has a good chance of being true, but even so, couldn't you please have added RUMOUR before the title? Even if the information is well-founded, it still has not been confirmed by Nintendo. The title makes it seem like a cold, hard fact.. Sorry to be picky, but I just don't like it, and I would have thought that PGC would include that disclaimer...

Wow mantidor, you're really angry! I don't think I've ever seen you swear, so that's saying a lot. I wholeheartedly agree with you - this is bad on many levels. DontHate was absolutely right - I think the general concensus was that there should be a demo of the way the controller could be used in the game, and maybe a fishing minigame or something, but I don't like this at all.

First, we get a delay when the Cube is on its last legs and this is the only major game coming. Worst way to keep momentum for the Rev. Next, what IS added to the game won't even be able to played on the GameCube. And to top it off, the game wasn't even designed from the ground up for the Revolution - changing the game to suit it would be a crime, yet not changing it would constitute the gimmick chanting.

In fact, I wish that Nintendo had just not even announced Zelda for GameCube... build it up for the Revolution for the launch window, along with Mario and SSB and Metroid within the first 8 months to a year. Then at least it would have been a MUCH better indicator of the Rev's power and controls..

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

COMPLETE WITH SSBM-STYLE TROPHY MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ShawnSt3r]

    Dang, so many whiners.  This is awesome news and not unexpected for me at all.  I was hoping the woulda just delayed it to the revolution actually. I mean, if we were going to wait to after April, why not? Atleast in my book.   This is sweet I get a great zelda game for my cube, that I can then pop in my Revo and make even better. Hurrah.

[Knoxxville]

Rev exclusive features for Zelda?  I called this one.....see my "Revolution conspiracy thread" in tha forums.....

[Artimus]

I wish they'd just cancel it for GCN and put it totally on the Rev with a brand new control scheme and make it nothing like Zelda. Just for Ian.