Topic: Rumour come True? Zelda: TP Forward Compatible?

[Kairon]

I feel icky being the bearer of the latest rumors, but I wonder if the particular idea of Zelda: TP making use of the Rev controller is picking up steam. Apprently, scans from the UK magazine "Gamer" suggests this very strongly, and they even imply that the two, the REV and Zelda:TP will launch relatively closely. Does this mean we're looking at yet another Twilight Princess Delay?

Mag sez: Twilight Princess launched Near Rev Date, makes use of Rev controller!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com  

[Kairon]

BTW, my Canadian childhood got the better of me and I've spelled "rumor" as both "rumor" and "rumour." Are both technically acceptible spellings under Canadian/British english?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Avinash_Tyagi]

what the claim is is that TP will let you use the rev control scheme to play when you load it onto the rev machine, its still coming out for the GCN so a frther delay is unlikely, it just means it'll have some hidden bonuses for REV users

[ThePerm]

no one cares in these forums, because there are english speakers from everywhere in the world

[thame^]

Woah, Zelda in November 2006, when this happen?  This had better be bullshit!

[Don'tHate742]

Oh no!

There was a crazy debate about this earlier and I think we all decided that a demo level or two should be included to show the features of the REV, but they should be unrelated to the actual game (e.g., sword-fight with a soldier, fishing mini-game).

If what that sight says is true, then the controller can be used throughout the game.

I must say that I am very excited at the prospect of playing Zelda with REV controls. I was going to play the game at least twice anyway, but now I have a great reason to do so. Playing my first time through with regular Zelda-esque controls, then playing the second time with REV controls. It's a win, win situation.

One more thing: Does anybody remember the part in the E3 trailer where Link rams his shield into the head of a Stalfos? What if, secretly, that move was done by the REVmote? I know its far fetched, but I can't help think its possible. Many people have came up with different control methods for Zelda REV and every single one allows for Link to directly control his shield. So thrusting your shield forward is definitely an option.

Anyway, I think I'm reading into this stuff way too much.

[JonLeung]

I'm a big Zelda fan (I mean, who isn't?) and though I usually don't play games more than once if I can finish them 100% the first time around, many of the Zelda games seem to have naturally slipped into my at-least-twice-played accomplishments.

Twilight Princess could easily be yet another Zelda game that I might play more than once, and Revolution bonuses would make that easier to want to revisit.  Playing it on the Revolution could unlock stuff that can't normally be accessed on the GameCube, but I'm hoping it'll be good stuff.

I don't like the example often cited about using the Revolution controller like a sword to slash stuff.  Zelda isn't exactly a hack-and-slash.  There has to be more to it.  Can it really emulate the feeling of holding the Zelda items?  Some things might work, like the hookshot, but I'm not about to throw my controller at the screen thinking it's a bomb or boomerang.

I'm sure that's a more extreme example of really getting into it...but if it's to make use of the Revolution controller, it should somehow be comfortably able to do all tools or nothing.  I'm not interested in waving the controller like a sword and then having to select other items just to press a button to use them, which would happen often in Zelda games. It would be jarringly awkward.  But maybe I'm underestimating their ability to come up with something that works better than I'm apparently imagining.

Having something like fighting particular bosses or certain mini-games might work.  My dad loves the fishing in Ocarina Of Time.  He's not a gamer, he just likes to fish. The Revolution controller would make that feel even better.  But to play large chunks of a typical Zelda-style game?  I dunno...

[Kairon]

Strangely enough, I remember my cousin who visited from the Philippines wanted to do nothing all day but fish in OoT. She caught the Hyrule Loach for me...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[JonLeung]

The Loach!  The largest of the blemishes on my Legend Of Zelda record!  I've never caught it!  

Other "blemishes" on my record include never finishing the DX version of Link's Awakening or the Game & Watch Zelda.  Yeah, I actually own the Game & Watch Zelda game, and it's in good condition - but man is it hard!  At least the last time I played it.

Sorry to go off topic there.

What else is Nintendo working on?  I can understand that they could experiment with Zelda when working on Revolution functions.  One of the demos was a take on Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, for example.  And my guess as to why the recently-discovered fully-functional Arwing hidden in Ocarina Of Time is probably because Star Fox 64 was what Nintendo worked on previous to Ocarina Of Time and so they put it in to test targetting functions and then never bothered to remove it.

So even if there is nothing according to official sources and normal play, there may be something still there hidden in the code.  Unofficially, maybe someone one day will dig up something in Twilight Princess suited to the Revolution.

(I doubt code-diggers would find anything like Hot Coffee, though...  >_>)

[ThePerm]

i caught the loach...but then i accicentally deleted my file with a gameshark..and now i can't catch it

[Kairon]

I'm scared to devolve into a pure rumor-mill state but...

The magazine purports that Zelda:TP and the Rev will launch relatively close to each other. So this means either a Zelda: TP delay into Nov 2006 or a Rev Launch of Spring/Summer 2006.

ARGH, PURE SPECULATION!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Don'tHate742]

Wait, is the Loach the one that gives you the Gold Scale? Or is it the one that gives you a heart-piece?

Either way, I have both of them.

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Well....I've never seen many of those screens that they have in their article. I was reluctant to believe it was true, but it really seems so. They have the exclusive, and any time now the news will be cropping up through more reputable sites.

[stevey]

the reason Shigeru Miyamoto and Aonuma wanted to pospone the release date of the game to next year, was to implent some exclusive features that can be controlled using the Revolution controller, the already famous 'remote' controller.

Twilight Princess will come out around the same time as the Revolution (according to NGC around November 2006) and that it will be playable with the Revolution controller.

*I need to smash something!*

Edit:"This is so full of bull. Reggie confirmed that Zelda will be released on April in the US."

I going to trust him, why whould reggie lie to us.

[hudsonhawk]

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Edit:"This is so full of bull. Reggie confirmed that Zelda will be released on April in the US."

I going to trust him, why whould reggie lie to us.

This is a UK magazine.  Maybe they're both right and Rev will launch Q2 2006 in the US and Q4 2006 in the UK / Europe.

After the 360's launch, I'd be surprised if anyone ever tries to launch a console in all regions simultaneously.  It was a pretty effective cautionary tale.

[Spak-Spang]

Wasn't there a quote that stated that the Revolution would be launched within about a Quarter of each other worldwide?

If Zelda is pushed back to Late April, and then Revolution Launched Late 2nd Quarter/Early 3rd Quarter in Japan/America then the European launch could be in November.

I really doubt this news story though.  It is written in unclear language.  It isn't saying This is HOW you will play the game with the Revolution, but this is POSSIBLY how you would control it.  For a magizine to write the article as such it is obvious filled with speculation.  Why would Nintendo give this magizine such a huge exclusive then not fill in the blanks?

I think they are speculating and writing a story as fact from that speculation.  Though to play devil's adevocote that's a huge story to write on speculation and the layout and images seem to be fresh.  

It is a mystery.

[mantidor]

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Originally posted by: Don'tHate742

Well....I've never seen many of those screens that they have in their article. I was reluctant to believe it was true, but it really seems so. They have the exclusive, and any time now the news will be cropping up through more reputable sites.

All those screens are from the E3 demo and trailers as far as I know. They shouldve gotten at least a new one. Here Im still hoping this is all bogus, I cant wait that long for the game, specially for features that I dont want or need for this game.

[Kairon]

The fun thing about this article is that the magazine only claimed alleged confirmation that Zelda TP would be forward compatible and that it would launch within a relatively close timeframe to the Rev (probably using the game and rev's UK time frames as opposed to American/Japanese dates, pity).

That's the only thing they actually claim to be true, and the spread is just good 'ol speculation as to how it would materialize. For all we care, the info could have been a two-line blurb at the bottom of a "breaking news" section.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[BigJim]

Did they actually say Zelda was coming out in April?  I only remember "after the first quarter" in the original delay announcement.

In any case, there won't be an early Rev launch.

[Shecky]

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the reason Shigeru Miyamoto and Aonuma wanted to pospone the release date of the game to next year, was to implent some exclusive features that can be controlled using the Revolution controller, the already famous 'remote' controller.

Right.... perfect reason to miss the holiday season and a ton of sales... so they can tweak controls for a system that was not going to be out for a whole year.

Yeah that makes a ton of financial sense.

Maybe, you know, they just didn't get it finished...

I mean what do people expect a PR department to say....

"Sorry guys we couldn't finish in time to meet a November release... next best time to put this out on market would probably be after March"

or

"Hey, we decided to delay the game so we can add polish and give it the special touch!  Get ready for a real treat after March!  Yeah!"

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

zELDA'S delayed cuz Kairon misspelled rumour D=

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[Mario]

Welp, i'm sure it will be a great game, but i'm skipping TP if I can't get everything out of it with my GameCube.

[IceCold]

Oh come on...

First I read this on the thread in the GameCube section and replied, then I read it in the official Zelda thread, then HERE!!

[attackslug]

I would love to see TP take advantage of the Rev's controller to a certain degree, such as using the freehand functions for the fishing games, a boss battle or two, and other minigames or sidequests.  I'm not sure how it would pan out with a heavier reliance on frequent actions such as swordplay, picking up rocks, and so on, but I have tons of faith in EAD to make it fun regardless.
Personally, I would expect to see TP take some advantage of the Rev's upped horsepower.  I wouldn't expect higher res textures or anything, but a solid 60 fps framerate would be very nice. A better lighting or shadowing model would be cool as well, but would probably yield a minimal improvement in appearance at the cost of retooling the engine.

[MaleficentOgre]

sounds like some kind of groovy idea to me.

[IceCold]

I think Nintendo said they really wanted a worldwide Zelda release, so I don't think it will launch Q2 North America and Q4 Europe...

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The freehand controller will be used to allow you to attack with Link's sword, and it'll be absolutely perfect for this. Lock on, approach an enemy and swing like your life depends on it

Well, well, someone doesn't know the essence of a Zelda game..