Author Topic: Hooking up to a monitor (Read 10050 times)

Dirk Temporo · « **on:** December 04, 2005, 11:40:06 AM »

Last I knew, the Revolution was still being touted as capable of hooking up to a computer monitor. Now, my question is: Why?

I mean, the only CONCEIVABLE reason I can think of for a game system to hook up to a computer monitor, is to be able to run the games at higher resolutions. Yet, we already know that the Revolution will not feature High Def output.

So... Why on earth would we WANT to hook it up to a computer monitor?

ThePerm · « **Reply #1 on:** December 04, 2005, 12:10:41 PM »

who the fuck knows..the whole hd thing is beyond me. Lets just wait till e3.

Guitar Smasher · « **Reply #2 on:** December 04, 2005, 12:26:19 PM »

Well for one, in my rez dorm I only have computer. No tv. This setup eliminates 360 and PS3, but if Rev were capable, it'd be my only choice. Secondly, if it means not having to share a tv with the rest of my family, then that's another bonus.

Artimus · « **Reply #3 on:** December 04, 2005, 01:19:54 PM »

You can buy a box, GS, that let's you hook it up.

Mario · « **Reply #4 on:** December 04, 2005, 11:09:38 PM »

Multiplayer.

One person gets the tv, the other person gets the monitor, third person uses the TV upstairs while the fourth is in another country playing them online.

NotSoStu · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2005, 01:15:07 AM »

Whoa... Never heard that one before, but it's an interesting idea.

ib2kool4u912 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2005, 10:11:32 AM »

Like everyone else said: Options.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2005, 11:30:06 AM »

The Dreamcast managed it easily, and rather INEXPENSIVELY at that. Unlike a certain FAT $30-40 cable Nintendo decided to discontinue, despite the quiet demand that continues to exist at its online store.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2005, 11:50:17 AM »

"Like everyone else said: Options."

I agree. Though it's rather ironic for Nintendo to provide this option only to deny the option of HD resolutions, especially since the two features are closely related. That is pretty confusing. I think you can chalk it up to Nintendo being weird as always. What's logical and what Nintendo actually does isn't always the same thing.

We haven't heard anything regarding the monitor support since the annoucement that HD isn't supported. The feature might have been cut. Perhaps when the monitor thing was mentioned Nintendo initially was planning on supporting HD but then changed their mind.

Even without HD resolution it is still a pretty nice feature to have. If someone is watching TV you can still play by hooking your Rev up to your PC monitor.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2005, 12:11:01 PM »

I don't recall much specific info on GameCube's input/output/connection features/formats talked about before the games were finally previewed at E3 2001. Back then, even the application of progressive scan and Dolby Pro Logic II in games was significant, tho it wasn't talked about without a game like Rogue Leader to spark interest, if i'm not mistaken.

I don't expect to hear more of these specifics for Rev until the games are shown. It's possible we might hear about DivX 6 as the official video codec for Rev and mp3PRO+mp3surround for 5.1 audio, but we might not hear about it until some RPG FMV extravaganza was in development and using those technologies.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #10 on:** December 06, 2005, 12:32:03 PM »

Is it possible for it to support HD with the monitor jack (or whatever will hook it to a monitor), but not with the regular jack that goes to a TV? Just a thought.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2005, 02:10:48 PM »

Yes and No.

If Rev and its software are allowed to output HD resoultions, then yeah. But HD is in 16:9 aspect ratio, and PC monitors are generally 4:3, so that monitor isn't going to like the incoming widescreen video.

If Rev has VGA monitor support, you're most likely gonna get 4:3 resolution, at 1024x768, for example. Here, you have a nice resolution, but it's not compatible with HDTV's. BUT, as an alternative to a PC monitor, it'll work great with a compatible projector that accepts VGA or HD signals.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2005, 03:53:46 PM »

Ah, yeah. That's what I was thinking of. How slick would it be if it has VGA monitor support up to 1024x768? I doubt it, but damn it, I can dream.

zakkiel · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2005, 04:44:06 PM »

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hough it's rather ironic for Nintendo to provide this option only to deny the option of HD resolutions, especially since the two features are closely related

Perhaps because providing equivalent graphics for HD would take a system half again as expensive?

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 07, 2005, 12:41:05 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Like everyone else said: Options."

I agree. Though it's rather ironic for Nintendo to provide this option only to deny the option of HD resolutions, especially since the two features are closely related. That is pretty confusing. I think you can chalk it up to Nintendo being weird as always. What's logical and what Nintendo actually does isn't always the same thing.

We haven't heard anything regarding the monitor support since the annoucement that HD isn't supported. The feature might have been cut. Perhaps when the monitor thing was mentioned Nintendo initially was planning on supporting HD but then changed their mind.

Even without HD resolution it is still a pretty nice feature to have. If someone is watching TV you can still play by hooking your Rev up to your PC monitor.

What your talking about doesn't really apply though. Nintendo is all about mass-market penetration. Adding computer monitor functionality further adds to the number of possible consumers. Adding HD limits it. Making it cheap adds to the number of possible consumers. Adding HD limits it.

I don't know about you, but I'm definitely going to use this. I can see mini-LANs forming with a pc and a tv.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #15 on:** December 07, 2005, 01:21:22 PM »

"Adding computer monitor functionality further adds to the number of possible consumers. Adding HD limits it. Making it cheap adds to the number of possible consumers. Adding HD limits it."

Well maybe the cost relates to it though no one who isn't some sort of insane mental case would NOT buy a console just because it supports HD because it would still work on a normal TV. Technically having monitor support might raise the cost of the console too. There are all sorts of variables regarding cost. But the HD feature itself, ignoring everything else, would not turn away anyone but the lack of the feature will. Not too many would be turned off just because of the monitor thing. It's so minor few will care at all.

Hell my Mom is sour on the Rev just because of the HD thing and she doesn't own an HDTV and probably won't for a long time. To her the very fact that they're ignoring something she sees as a future requirement suggests incompetance. She doesn't think highly of Nintendo for overlooking something that to her seems obvious. Like if they're too stunned to see the importance of including HD support they're probably not capable of making a decent product. This is one example but my Mom IS in Nintendo's target demo for the Rev.

Everyone who walks into a store like Best Buy or the electronics section of a department store knows what HD is within five seconds of looking at the TVs or talking to a salesman. It's a big buzzword right now and people who don't even know really what HD is would ask "does it support HD?" when buying a console just because it's something they heard about that supposedly is cool.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #16 on:** December 07, 2005, 02:03:52 PM »

Hell my Mom is sour on the Rev just because of the HD thing and she doesn't own an HDTV and probably won't for a long time. To her the very fact that they're ignoring something she sees as a future requirement suggests incompetance. She doesn't think highly of Nintendo for overlooking something that to her seems obvious.

Like mother, like son, eh? And doubling on your first statement, you'd have to be an "insane mental case" to not buy a console because it doesn't support High Dollar...

Artimus · « **Reply #17 on:** December 07, 2005, 02:08:37 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Hell my Mom is sour on the Rev just because of the HD thing and she doesn't own an HDTV and probably won't for a long time. To her the very fact that they're ignoring something she sees as a future requirement suggests incompetance. She doesn't think highly of Nintendo for overlooking something that to her seems obvious. Like if they're too stunned to see the importance of including HD support they're probably not capable of making a decent product. This is one example but my Mom IS in Nintendo's target demo for the Rev.

That has to be the stupidest, most irrelevant, most pointless, most factless, most ridiculous thing you have ever written. I'm on the floor laughing.

"Your honour...to help my case to day I present Wintess #1...MY MOM! AND SHE AGREES WITH ME! TAKE THAT~?!!$ %REJKHV SMNFKJDSHV5KJ32Y58Y25IUHEWEJKR`JQEQNirehwhk1`jhc4uiv h2kj qw~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Mario · « **Reply #18 on:** December 07, 2005, 02:12:55 PM »

HD is not a future requirement, it's not necessary in any way, it's a gimick.

Artimus · « **Reply #19 on:** December 07, 2005, 02:14:11 PM »

HD will be the standard in 15 years or so, for sure.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #20 on:** December 07, 2005, 04:23:04 PM »

Prices need to drop first.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #21 on:** December 08, 2005, 05:20:43 AM »

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Originally posted by: Artimus
HD will be the standard in 15 years or so, for sure.

But never a requirement.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #22 on:** December 08, 2005, 06:19:44 AM »

That's one high-tech Mom.

Artimus · « **Reply #23 on:** December 08, 2005, 06:43:54 AM »

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
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Originally posted by: Artimus
HD will be the standard in 15 years or so, for sure.

But never a requirement.

No, but they'll just stop making SD TVs.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #24 on:** December 08, 2005, 07:02:39 AM »

"And doubling on your first statement, you'd have to be an "insane mental case" to not buy a console because it doesn't support High Dollar"

I said only an insane mental case would NOT buy a console because it supports HD. Like you go to the store, see "HD supported" on the box and say "I'm not buying this." Who would do that? NO ONE.

Some of you guys just totally absorb every idea Nintendo plants in your head. If Nintendo sold you a house with no bathroom they could convince you that going to the bathroom is unneeded. None of you would have cared if Nintendo supported HD. It's only because they've now said that they're not supporting it that you think HD is so bad.

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