Topic: Your First REV downloads

[Spak-Spang]

JonLeung:  I don't like the idea of having games unlocked by purchasing new games either...but Nintendo or 3rd parties COULD do it that way.  But if I had to choose about waiting for Nintendo to release ROMS when they want, and only have a limited number, or being able to buy a game and unlock it immediately, I would rather buy a game.  

Personally though, I just hope Nintendo releases them all at once onto a server and allows everyone to download anything they want at any time.  

[IceCold]

They could also have online tournaments (SSBR and the rest), and the winner gets credits to download classic games.

[Zach]

*bump*

Hey, this is an old thread, but I thought it might be a good idea to bring it back up again since there will be Genesis and TurboGrafx (sp?) games downloadable.  I didnt have either one of those systems, so I would like to see some reccomendations from you guys.

[animecyberrat]

as for turbo graphix I highly reccomend Bonk series, the Bomberman games, and Double Dragon. I havent played anything else but those are all great.




Genesis on the other hand, this is gonna take a while so bear with me



Sonic 1-3
Sonic Spinball (best Pinball related video game ever)
Sonic and KNuckles (for SOnic 2 and 3 also)
Shinobi
Revenge of Shinobi
Shinobi 3 return of the Ninja master (best Ninja game ever)
Toe jam and Ear (absolute blast)
Toe Jam and Earl Panic on Funkotron (funny as hell!)
Ecco the Dolphin
Ecco the Tides of Time
Streets of Rage 1-3
Shining Force 1-3
Columns (fantastic fun puzzle game not as good as tetris but fun as hell)
Eternal Champions
X-Men (the one made by Sega)
Phantasy Star 1-4 (4 is the best 1 and 2 are ok and three I havent played but its phantasy star so its gotta be good)
Beyond Oasis
Biohazard battle (this is a MUST have game)
Gunstar Heroes
Ristar
Vector Man 1 and 2
Super Hang On
Super Monaco GP
DJ Boy (MUST HAVE GAME)
Afterburner 1-3
Cosmic Carnage (if 32X games are available)
Virtua Racing (and see ocne and for all what Genesis could do for 3d graphics!)
Virtua Fighter 2 (not 3d but decent 2d port)
Sonic 3-D Blast
Golden Axe 1 and 2
and the first game you shall DL is Altered beast


and thats all off the top of my head.



I will most likley be getting every Genesis game they offer even if I alread have them gotta support Sega after all.


Now this list isnt just a comprehensive list of their games these are all games worth downloading.





As for Nintendo stuf Ill be focusing mroe on NEs games than anything myself.



i also wanted to make a point in regards to the pricing that was not mentioned in the thread and thast what about those games that were made that FLOPPED and cost Nintendo money? This VC is surely a way for them to try and recoup those losses after all the years. i mean its what keeps Namco and Midway alive.

[jasonditz]

I was going to make a list, but after I finished the NES stuff I was already at about 100 games... man I hope they set them around a buck a download so I can eventually build up the library I want.

Anyhow, the thing I'd really like for my first NES download is probably Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar. For the SNES it's Uncharted Waters 2. For the Genesis it's Might and Magic: Gates to Another World. For the N64 probably WWF: No Mercy, unless there's finally an English version of Earthbound 64.

[Kairon]

Doshin. The. Frickin'. Giant.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[jasonditz]

The thing with pricing is on systems like the NES where the ROMs cost virtually nothing to send to the end user, they should be trying to maximum profits, not price. The number of games I buy is going to be inversely proportional to the price per game.

Sure, they could stick it at $10 a game and I'd probably buy a few, but it becomes less of a selling point that way. They stick them at $1 a game or less, and I'm going to buy hundreds... they get more money, I get more games, and I get a more compelling reason to buy the system. It's win-win.

In fact, here's my promise to Nintendo:

If you:
1. put a $0.99 a game download fee for NES, Genesis, and SNES games (you can charge more for N64 games if you like)...
2. get the 3rd parties I care about (Koei, Enix, Capcom, Konami, Sega, FCI, HotB) on board

I will personally buy 100 games on the day the system launches.

[trip1eX]

Yeah there's a happy medium with price.  Nintendo doesn't seem like one to hold fire sales tho so I imagine prices will won't be as low as we would like.

$20 for a N64 game would be too high.   We know the DS has these types of games for not much more  and they are on phystical cartridges and sold at retail.  And the DS are new games for the most part.  Also the development costs for N64 games have long since been charged to the company tab.  $10 or less is more what I'm thinking.  

NES games should be a $1 or $2.   SNES would warrant $4-$5 pricewise.  N64 $8-$10.

If NIntendo was smart they'd add some extra features to the games and try to charge a couple more bucks for each one.  Save wherever you want.  Play any level you want.  PLay others online.  Enhanced graphics.  Stuff like that would make the titles even more attractive imo and would warrant a bit of a markup.  




 

[IceCold]

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Originally posted by: jasonditz
The thing with pricing is on systems like the NES where the ROMs cost virtually nothing to send to the end user, they should be trying to maximum profits, not price. The number of games I buy is going to be inversely proportional to the price per game.

Sure, they could stick it at $10 a game and I'd probably buy a few, but it becomes less of a selling point that way. They stick them at $1 a game or less, and I'm going to buy hundreds... they get more money, I get more games, and I get a more compelling reason to buy the system. It's win-win.

In fact, here's my promise to Nintendo:

If you:
1. put a $0.99 a game download fee for NES, Genesis, and SNES games (you can charge more for N64 games if you like)...
2. get the 3rd parties I care about (Koei, Enix, Capcom, Konami, Sega, FCI, HotB) on board

I will personally buy 100 games on the day the system launches.

It's true that it will be more of a system seller if the prices oare cheap, but Nintendo also has to think about the effect that the VC games will have. If they're too cheap, then people will only play the old games, and the software tie-in ratio will be a lot lower. They won't let that happen.

[TrueNerd]

Kirby's Dream Course and Uniracers.  

[iMoron]

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NES games should be a $1 or $2. SNES would warrant $4-$5 pricewise. N64 $8-$10.

Hey... lets make a p-e-t-i-t-i-o-n! So that they don't go beyond those prices.

I would like to get... ... ... Soltice, Marvel Madness, Stunt Race FX, ... and any obscure game I never got a chance to play... LOTS!

EDIT: ... for a moment there I thought I was going krazy... I didn't remember ever typing: ... lets make a comic book! LOL, OK so p-e-t-i-t-i-o-n is converted to "comic book"... OK I will restraing my self in the future from using or sugesting that! ha, ha... nice one, comic book... LOL

[MaryJane]

I hope your all happy.
I didn't have the privilege of buying any games before the N64 about a year after it came out. Everything I had before that was given to me, and mostly consisted of Mario games. Not complaining, but that's the way it was.
Now when the Rev comes out and I have the VC at my finger tips I'm going to have to come back to this thread and get a lot of the suggestions I see up here.
Thanks.

[iMoron]

MaryJane... I think you were ok then... I couldn't play game, period... even if someone were to give me a nintendo as a present... nor could I se carttons... or have toy for that matter... sad... and bad because I could not asosiate with others as easy since I had nothing to share...

it seems we will be on the look out for fun games we had little chance at playing in the past...

At least I had a few Nintendo Power magazines to keep me bussy, dreaming of becoming a game developer... lets see if I ever make it...

In the mean time I will try to catch up with the rest...

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: IceCold
It's true that it will be more of a system seller if the prices oare cheap, but Nintendo also has to think about the effect that the VC games will have. If they're too cheap, then people will only play the old games, and the software tie-in ratio will be a lot lower. They won't let that happen.

On the other hand, Nintendo generally sells its hardware profitably, so I don't think that's a big issue.

Get people to buy the system then let the new software sell itself.

[OverHeat]

You know, now that they have announced Genesis and TurboGrafx16 support, my list is torn into teeny tiny pieces and thrown in the recycling bin.... Well, here is a top 10 for each system, but not in any particular order. Lets see....

Genesis

Golden Axe
Micheal Jackson's Moonwalker
Streets of Rage
Revenge of Shinobi
Atomic Robo Kid
Altered Beast
Truxton
Captain America and the Avengers
CastleVania:Bloodlines
Forgotten Worlds


TurboGrafx16

Ninja Spirits
Aliens Crush
Devil's Crush
Dungeon Explorer
Bonks Adventure
Splatterhouse
Bloody Wolf
Operation Wolf (only with rev controller support)
Parodius Da!
Legendary Axe 2


NES
CastleVania (Trilogy)
Super Mario Bros (Trilogy)
Ninja Gaiden (Trilogy)
Dragon Warrior (Quintology)
Bubble Bobble
River City Ransom
Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers
Contra (Trilogy)
Zelda (Both)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles


SNES

Super Punch Out
Super Metroid
Super CastleVania
Kirby's Superstar Adventure
Zelda: Link to the Past
Super Double Dragon
Super Street Fighter 2
Mortal Kombat 2
Contra 3
Super Mario World


N64

Blast Corps (too bad for me)
Conker's Bad Fur Day  (too bad for me)
Killer Instinct Gold (too bad for me)
Mario 64
Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Zelda: Majora's Mask
Mischief Makers
Doom 64
Tetrisphere
Sin and Punishment (oh please oh please oh please)

The sad thing is, this is just a top ten for all systems. I am sure there are at least 2 or 3 games (or 10 or 50) I am forgetting about on the Genesis, Turbografx and N64. There are TONS of games I am not including in the list for the NES and SNES.
The even more sadderer part is, I AINT GONNA HAVE THE MONEY FOR ALL THESE DOWNLOADS!!!
*sob* *sniffle sniffle* *sob*
But wait! .... some of these I already have in compilations on my Gamecube, and with backwards compatibility, I dont have to worry about them!

[IceCold]

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On the other hand, Nintendo generally sells its hardware profitably, so I don't think that's a big issue.

Well, I'm not worried about Nintendo; their games will sell anyway. I'm worried about 3rd parties - on the Cube multiplatform games sold horribly. I know, I know, they were useless ports and often late, but still, Nintendo always has this problem. If the VC games further detract from 3rd party game sales, the developers won't be happy..

[iMoron]

There will also be original games offered true the download service...

Imagine if they come and realeas games that were canceled at one point or another, sequels that never made it to retail... ideas that weren't put in to action but were already develop in an early stage...

Sequels like those could become extremly desireble! I would bet that many would be all over them... even if only for nostagia...

And consider that there is a market for old games as well a s new ones... people like me might be interested by old and new alike... there are some that could care less for the new consoles and their new games but would love to regain their old favorites... and there will be people that hate the past and just want, what they think, is new... There will be no problem because of the old games... there will be loots to chose thats for shure... and I will have my hands full...

Hope I manage to get the Revolution soon after its realease or on day one...

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: IceCold

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On the other hand, Nintendo generally sells its hardware profitably, so I don't think that's a big issue.

Well, I'm not worried about Nintendo; their games will sell anyway. I'm worried about 3rd parties - on the Cube multiplatform games sold horribly. I know, I know, they were useless ports and often late, but still, Nintendo always has this problem. If the VC games further detract from 3rd party game sales, the developers won't be happy..

That's their problem, not Nintendo's, and probably not the average consumers.

Nintendo's problem with 3rd party support was that without it the system doesn't offer enough. If the third parties are pulling support because there's too much content and they can't compete with it, Nintendo's problem vaniishes.

And honestly, ours probably does too. If a third party can't bring enough to the table in a Revolution title to make me put my copy of Shining in the Darkness for the Genesis down, then what the heck would I buy it for? I have no question Nintendo and major 3rd parties like Capcom and Namco will find ways to justify purchases of new tiitles... irrespective of how cheap decades old roms are priced.

Still, I think if you use the backwards compatibility to get an enormous installed base, the third party support will come.

[RiskyChris]

To the poster mentioning uniracers and kirby's dream course, ROCK ON!

I play KDC over the net with a friend from back home every now and then.  Definitely one of my favorite games of the SNES era!

Uniracers was an awesome game too.  I wonder where mine is?  *digs through trash*

[vudu]

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Doshin. The. Frickin'. Giant.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't think I've heard of any GameCube games being available on the virtual console.

As for my first download, I almost hate to admit it, but I've been itching to play Magical Quest starring Mickey Mouse again for ages.  I really loved that game back in the day.

[MaryJane]

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Originally posted by: vudu

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Doshin. The. Frickin'. Giant.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't think I've heard of any GameCube games being available on the virtual console.

As for my first download, I almost hate to admit it, but I've been itching to play Magical Quest starring Mickey Mouse again for ages.  I really loved that game back in the day.

Ah I totally forgot about that game. One of my favs from back then. Definitely the best disney game before kingdom hearts... although i hear the second one is disappointingly short.  

[Kairon]

Doshin the frickin' Giant was originally an N64 DD title. Just as Animal Crossing was originally an N64 DD title.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[vudu]

Are we getting 64DD titles?  As far as I've heard, no.  If so, I'll take the F-Zero track editor over Doshin.

[Ceric]

I really don't see why not.

[IceCold]

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That's their problem, not Nintendo's, and probably not the average consumers.

Nintendo's problem with 3rd party support was that without it the system doesn't offer enough. If the third parties are pulling support because there's too much content and they can't compete with it, Nintendo's problem vaniishes.

And honestly, ours probably does too. If a third party can't bring enough to the table in a Revolution title to make me put my copy of Shining in the Darkness for the Genesis down, then what the heck would I buy it for? I have no question Nintendo and major 3rd parties like Capcom and Namco will find ways to justify purchases of new tiitles... irrespective of how cheap decades old roms are priced.

Still, I think if you use the backwards compatibility to get an enormous installed base, the third party support will come.

I agree that with a huge userbase third party support is inevitable (look at PS2 - used DVDs to gain that userbase), but developers care just as much about the 3rd party software tie-in ratio as the installed userbase. The problem is that there are people who buy low quality third party games, but they just don't use Nintendo consoles. We can say all we want about 3rd parties having to actually put in effort into their games, but that doesn't get us anywhere. With a lower tie-in ratio, it would just give developers another reason to ditch third party support. Which is Nintendo's problem, and ours too..