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Offline Pale

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Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« on: November 24, 2005, 11:51:09 AM »
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I thought it was of interest...

As I am hanging out with family for the holiday, 3 of us had some Mario Kart DS action going on and another person fired up the cube to play some Wind Waker...

Much to my surprise, as soon as he started playing cube, with a Wavebird on channel 3, we saw an extreme framerate drop in our Mario Kart match.  He flicked the wavebird on and off, and sure enough, the frame rate drop went right along with the wavebird.  This wasn't a small drop either.  I'm guessing our race was chugging at between 10 and 15 fps.

Has this been documented?  I'm going to do some more experiments with different wavebird channels to see if it keeps doing it.
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RE:Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2005, 01:46:42 PM »
Hmm, I don't know... The Wavebirds are RF and the DS is Wi-Fi, so I don't think it should interefere, but I'm not really sure.
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RE:Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2005, 02:46:08 PM »
I don't know why Nintendo decided to create this misconception.

Local play is not WiFi.  Online play is WiFi.
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RE: Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2005, 03:30:40 PM »
That's interesting, i'm gonna try this whenever I get another DS!

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RE: Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2005, 06:29:24 PM »
Both 2.4GHz devices. Regardless of how those devices communicate with their respective receivers, they're still saturating the area with signals at the same frequency. It's comparable to using a [2.4GHz] cordless phone at the same time. Find a channel for the controller that doesn't interfere with the DSes too much, or just seperate them.
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RE: Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2005, 07:56:35 PM »
Actually, if I remember correctly there are 2 generations of wavebirds, one at 900 MHz and one in the 2.4GHz bands.

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RE:Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2005, 08:28:26 PM »
Uhm I'm not sure what generation wavebird was being used.  It was the original off white color and was purchased the christmas that double dash came out.

Anyway, it was super strange... I thought my DS was dying until I asked the others and they were seeing the same thing.
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RE: Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2005, 09:21:49 PM »
I'm left wondering, is there any way to tell the 1st gen WaveBirds from the 2nd gen Wave Birds?
I know both of mine are first gen, since I got them about the first week they were out... so I can't compare.
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RE:Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2005, 10:59:18 PM »
It would be awesome if you could use a wavebird as a controller for DS games!

We need some elite hackers to get on that now.

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RE:Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2005, 05:18:06 AM »
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I'm left wondering, is there any way to tell the 1st gen WaveBirds from the 2nd gen Wave Birds?
I know both of mine are first gen, since I got them about the first week they were out... so I can't compare.


There may be, if the model numbers are different then it would be easy, but I'm guessing they're not.  I'm not sure what it takes to get the FCC certs for a device, and what has to be printed on the unit when it does.

My only wavebird (guaranteed 1st gen as I got it when it first came out) is:

Model: DOL-004
FCCID: EW4DOLAW
IC: 4250A-DOLAW

Receiver:
DOL-005 (with a Canada 210 cert)

UncleBob, your #'s should jive with these.  Pale check yours to see if they differ (if they don't then the test is inconclusive)

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RE: Wavebirds messing with DS Wireless?
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2005, 01:38:29 PM »
I got mine in mid-late 2003. Have the same numbers. I guess it could be old stock (purchased at GameStop). Apparent time of change:

http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=3764
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