Author Topic: Play 360 at walmart....RIGHT NOW (Read 30932 times)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #75 on:** November 15, 2005, 08:59:56 PM »

no matter what devs say game development costs will go significantly down this generation...why? They own faster more efficient hardware.

Being able to run sloppy code (actually not because the X360 has in-order CPUs) does not outweight the added complexity of normalmaps and more detailled levels in any way. Rein, when selling the Unreal Engine as super efficient, claimed they have a cost increase of "only" 50% per game. That does not sound like costs lowering to me.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #76 on:** November 16, 2005, 05:29:06 AM »

I had a peek at the Xbox 360 yesterday, didn't actually get to play. I'm very disappointed with the graphics. I think Call of Duty 2 was playing, and the only way I knew it was an Xbox 360 game at first was because it was playing in high-res on an HDTV. At a glance, it just looked like a sharper Xbox or GameCube game. On closer inspection it had nice textures and more detailed models than current-gen games, but if I wasn't a gaming nerd I don't think I'd be able to see the difference.

Now, in all fairness I think Call of Duty 2 is a port, and it's also not the type of game that I find visually appealing in the first place. Lots of grey and beige. Blah. Even so, seeing it in person left me less impressed than I was before, which is pretty bad. First-gen software? I don't think that matters. I've never, ever said, "Oh, this system had ho-hum graphics in the first generation, but I'm really impressed now!" I've always been really impressed by the first-gen software, and everything after it was just a nice incremental improvement. If anything the first generation of 360 software has already desensitized us to whatever improvements the second generation might make.

Anyway, that's a silly rant. I don't think any of that makes the Xbox 360 a bad game system, but I do think it makes it an overpriced one. What am I getting for my $500 CDN?

I've also noticed that there doesn't seem to be much hype for the 360. Other than the promotion with Pepsi, I really don't see it getting the attention the Xbox did. I remember seeing Xbox floormats and standees in practically every store that sold videogames for a couple of months in advance, and there were commercials dedicated to Xbox for quite a while before launch. This time around, I have yet to see an Xbox 360 commercial on TV except for the Pepsi one. Microsoft also seems to be shying away from hyping up the games - if they can turn Halo into a humongous hit, I don't see why they can't do the same for Perfect Dark 0. I know I'm not the only person who thinks Halo is overrated, even if Perfect Dark 0 doesn't live up to the original, it should be hypable.

Very weird. I think Microsoft can cope, but I doubt this launch will be as crazy as PS2's was.

Arbok · « **Reply #77 on:** November 16, 2005, 07:17:22 AM »

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I think Microsoft can cope, but I doubt this launch will be as crazy as PS2's was.

It will be, regardless, as Microsoft has cut the number of systems it is selling to such a short supply that they will sell out despite if the hype might be there or not. If the rumors of them stocking stores with big "Sold Out" signs are true, perhaps Microsoft is planning to hype the system alongside the news reporting on the 360 being completely sold out.

Zach · « **Reply #78 on:** November 16, 2005, 12:36:40 PM »

As for commercials, i have seen a couple here in the US. The first one had people jumping rope, and then it showed an X360 with the words "Jump in" (their slogan?) I forget what the other commercial I saw was, but I do remember that like the one I just mentioned, it had almost nothing to do with the actual system. (At least include some game footage!!!!). Bad marketing on MS's part (If I remember right, even "Clean is better than Dirty" had some game footage.)

I have to agree that the 360 probably will get off to a slow start, all of my friends who are fans of the XBOX have said the same thing, they want the 360, but it is just too d@mn expensive. Then again, i am a college student, and most of us are kinda poor right now.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #79 on:** November 16, 2005, 01:42:33 PM »

I tried Kameo.

Meh.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #80 on:** November 17, 2005, 02:19:50 AM »

What did you expect? It's a Rare title.

NotSoStu · « **Reply #81 on:** November 17, 2005, 04:05:12 PM »

Old Rare owns. Post-Banjo-Tooie Rare hasn't made anything good.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #82 on:** November 18, 2005, 08:01:55 AM »

I've been reading the xbox360 countdown on IGN, and I have to say that I'm still not too impressed (at all). The wireless controller + charger totals to $70! If I wanted a full Xbox360 setup, I'd need at least two sets of those and then one more wireless -- nearing 600 USD. Additionally, there are only three usb ports on the console, meaning that if you were going to stick with wired controllers you'd still have to go wireless for your fourth controller. I know i'm nitpicking, but I also know that if nintendo made some of these mistakes, we'd all hear about it -- either from Iach other or from G4TV. I wanted an xbox360, but microsoft is making all the wrong moves, it seems. Plus, I still dont get too worked up on this High Def. crap. I'd go HDTV to see the hairs on a rhino's ass, not to see a really shoddy texture in great detail. None of the games look realistic... cept the car racing games. those look nice.

but i need to play it, and on a real hdtv.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #83 on:** November 18, 2005, 09:31:18 AM »

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Originally posted by: Stu L Tissimus
Old Rare owns. Post-Banjo-Tooie Rare hasn't made anything good.

I thought Conker was one of their best, and It's Mr. Pants and Sabre Wulf are both very good GBA titles. In terms of recent console games, though, I have to agree that the company has had a lot of trouble. It's looks like they're trying to hide PD0 from the public, and opinions on Kameo are pretty mixed.

I didn't know they only have three places to plug in wired controllers...that's definitely lame. Nothing that would stop me from buying the system, but lame nonetheless.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #84 on:** November 18, 2005, 12:43:04 PM »

Conker was a horribly overrated Platformer.

Seriously, if you took out the attitude and violence, you are left with a very shallow play experience.

Rare's games always feel the same. The always feel like they are stuck in slowiness. I don't know how to explain it, except like that. I just never feel like I am moving or doing anything in Rare's more recent games.

So far I haven't seen a single reason for ME, to get an Xbox 360. However, I know several people are loving the launch lineup.

stevey · « **Reply #85 on:** November 18, 2005, 04:00:50 PM »

I played the 360 when I went to get mariokart and beside the floor being very very shinny it look just like xbox 1 with nothing new to add to the game that haven't been done before. The controller is the same as in the last xbox just spary painted white, reform middle, and jack up price(4~50 dollar I think) and everyone I ask just is gettin it for halo3. When I said it not real they say "but there taking per-order" witch is stupid since they let me perorder game that aren't real like mario128 since '02.

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #86 on:** November 21, 2005, 04:10:16 AM »

New report in:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175860,00.html

"Don't buy a 360"

It mentions everything that we've pointed out, but it's till a good read.

mantidor · « **Reply #87 on:** November 21, 2005, 05:12:58 AM »

"...All that for a machine that won't play the hot games this season, like "Star Wars: Battlefront II" and "50 Cent: Bulletproof.""

That has to seriously be a joke lol irony

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #88 on:** November 21, 2005, 08:10:02 AM »

foxnews.............HAAHAHAHAHAHAAH!

I'll say hooray for an article that stands up and says boo to crap like the xbox360, but boy do they suck at writing an article.

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #89 on:** November 21, 2005, 11:13:58 AM »

CNN also wrote an article basically stating the same thing.

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #90 on:** November 21, 2005, 11:19:04 AM »

Just thought I'd point out that though Madden sucked hard, the controller is absolutely phenomenal, far superior to any controller I've gone hands-on with in my life.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #91 on:** November 21, 2005, 12:09:52 PM »

you liked it? hm,. maybe I was holding it wrong.. did you have both fingers on the triggers? (as in, index and middle finger of each hand covering the triggers)

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #92 on:** November 21, 2005, 12:11:33 PM »

Just index, I only brought up my middle finger when necessary. That's a huge problem I had with Dual Shock this gen but for some reason it didn't seem so bad with the 360.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #93 on:** November 21, 2005, 12:32:12 PM »

"I only brought up my middle finger when necessary."

I too only bring up my middle finger when necessary. It's just not polite otherwise.

I haven't seen the X360 demo in Wal-Mart or any stores at all where I live. Are there demos in Canada at all?

Guitar Smasher · « **Reply #94 on:** November 21, 2005, 01:21:26 PM »

I saw one at the Futureshop back in my hometown of Kanata (Ottawa).

King of Twitch · « **Reply #95 on:** November 21, 2005, 01:24:24 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051121/ap_on_hi_te/xbox360

"In the living room itself, Xbox 360 is our centerpiece and a product that redefines what goes on there,"
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If you buy 360, you are begging MS to begin taking control of your living room.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #96 on:** November 21, 2005, 04:25:06 PM »

I don't think Scotch tape can fix this problem.

Shecky · « **Reply #97 on:** November 21, 2005, 05:29:42 PM »

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Originally posted by: MJRx9000
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051121/ap_on_hi_te/xbox360

"Gates said he's also expecting a new Xbox service called Microsoft Points, which lets people pre-pay for things like virtual armor or other game-related items, to eventually work with Windows Live, so people could use a single account to pay for offerings there, too."

Gah!

"Analyst Rob Enderle said the move to more closely link Xbox Live with Windows Live intends to bolster loyalty to Microsoft products. Microsoft 'can tie that stuff together so that you as a customer become wedded to the Microsoft platform for everything you do,' he said."

Edit: Not so subtle "hint"

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #98 on:** November 21, 2005, 05:32:44 PM »

He's done it again! The bastard!

Anyway, I mentioned this in another thread. I'm going to play my friend's 360, so i'll get some hands on impressions going afterwards.

IceCold · « **Reply #99 on:** November 21, 2005, 08:44:22 PM »

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Are there demos in Canada at all?

Yeah, as Guitar Smasher said, Futureshop has them, and I think some other stores do too, but I'm not sure.

News:

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