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RE:Revolution Bundle Ideas/Thoughts
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2005, 05:58:51 AM »
The point is, you don't say, "Four free pixelated 80s games".  You say, "Four free game downlaods." or if you want to go for the nostalgia angle, "Four free Nintendo classics".

Heck they could put a five-second spot at the end of each game commercial.  Then you never mention the classics without mentioning a new game, and the classics get a lot of air time.  I think they have the potential to be a huge selling point if Nintendo doesn't make them too expensive.

I really like the idea of an exclusive launch colour, too.  I at least hope they offer some exciting colour at launch, I find white and black both boring, but I guess I should buy those boring colours because at this point the colours they've showed that I like the most are red and green, both of which totally clash with my purple GameCube.
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2005, 07:35:05 AM »
"Yeah, but I'd be leery of seeing, on one hand, the XBox 360 with Halo 3, ai, physics, and lens flares and on the other hand, the Revolution with FOUR FREE PIXELATED EIGHTIES GAMES!"

It's not like the Xbox 360 comes with Halo 3 free.  The commercial would obviously have shots of the launch games as well.  It's not Halo 3 vs. Super Mario Bros.  It's Halo 3 vs. Super Mario Bros and big new Nintendo launch game.

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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2005, 09:20:43 AM »
How about instead of offering "5 free downloads" Nintendo just includes several of its classic games preloaded on the flash memory?  Not everyone has access to broadband, and those that don't won't be able to download games.  Instead Nintendo should just include a few of their most popular games (like SMB 1-3, SMW 1&2, a couple Zelda games, DKC, etc) right in the box.

While we're on the subject of demo discs, if Nintendo is too cheap to offer demo discs, they can even preload a few demos of current and/or future games and/or tech demos on the flash memory.
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2005, 09:23:14 AM »
I disagree from a business standpoint... getting people online is part of the reason for giving the free downloads away.  It works in the same way free iTunes songs work... you set up your account and everything to get 1 free song, then you see all of these other songs available.
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RE: Revolution Bundle Ideas/Thoughts
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2005, 09:37:14 AM »
That is a good point.  But what about the kiddies who don't have a cable modem or DSL?  They won't be able to get anything.  Unless Nintendo starting putting download kiosks in stores (as some others have mentioned) these people won't be able to get any classic games on their Revolution.

Perhaps they can do both--preload a couple games and then give them the option to download a couple more for free?  Something is better than nothing.  
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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2005, 10:03:28 AM »
"How about instead of offering '5 free downloads' Nintendo just includes several of its classic games preloaded on the flash memory?"

I personally prefer having the downloads because then I can choose what games I get.  If Nintendo chooses then I can guarantee that I will already own all five of the games they preload on the Rev and so will like 90% of Nintendo fans.  Plus Pale hit the nail on the head in regards to the download service encouraging people to try going online.

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« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2005, 10:16:30 AM »
That's great for you, but what about the 60+% of Americans who don't have broadband?  They get zero free classic games?  That's not very satin.
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RE: Revolution Bundle Ideas/Thoughts
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2005, 10:27:24 AM »
People without broadband get a voucher for free satin pillows.
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2005, 10:39:21 AM »
Ah, but that increases the number of console versions for sale, which is exactly the thing we're trying to avoid....
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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2005, 11:04:55 AM »
"That's great for you, but what about the 60+% of Americans who don't have broadband? They get zero free classic games?"

Better they get zero than I get zero.

I think having download kiosks is an ideal workaround for this.  But even then who REALLY is going to buy a Rev during the launch period?  If you don't have broadband interent odds are you don't buy brand new videogame consoles right when they come out anyway.  Plus without broadband it's impossible to get the most out of all three consoles anyway.

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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2005, 11:11:59 AM »
You're thinking like a twenty-something who's recently graduated from college.  You're not thinking of a high school student (or even a college student)

Many high school (college) students don't have broadband because their parents won't/can't/don't pay for it.  There are lots of kids who will buy a game (or system) the day it comes out, but they don't have much say as far as if their parents spring for high-speed Internet.
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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2005, 12:21:17 PM »
many dorms offer broadband. Wireless is up to the residents, but I know I'll set up a router when Rev. gets in.

I wish those first rumors were true about the revolution offering wireless LAN right out of the box. (i.e. wireless multiplayer with other rev consoles in the dorms.)
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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2005, 12:21:26 PM »
I feel bad for the people without broadband, but the downloads are a good idea. Perhaps some people can't use them, but a lot (or most) people can. 60% of American might not have broadband, but over 60% don't have a game system. Does that mean Nintendo should just not bother at all?

Downloads are an inexpensive way for Nintendo to make the system a good deal.

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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2005, 01:08:53 PM »
It's not ideal, but embedding some old games onto a Rev disc wouldn't hurt. If the disc is proprietary and at least as difficult to hack as GameCube media, then it'd be a fairly low risk alternative.

A DS adapter would be nice too. Download it while you're in line at McDonalds.
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2005, 01:19:33 PM »
In the past 18 months broadband usage has something like tripled... its growing SUPER fast... that's what Nintendo is banking on.  In under two years you will either have broadband or nothing.
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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2005, 02:02:25 PM »
Actually, Nintendo probably won't offer four free game downloads.

They'll just offer a single free download of "Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt." Seriously, what other game download could be as universal, or could be a perfect example of the pointer functionality?

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RE: Revolution Bundle Ideas/Thoughts
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2005, 05:11:39 PM »
That's most likely the case. If Nintendo didn't bother to bundle up their first party titles in one cartdrige when they re-released NES games on the GBA, why would they give so much for free?

Though I do miss the days of the pack-in game. For arguments sake, let's say the base price is 250. Its got the basics, controller, basic cables, as well as the analog and shell attachment, built-in memory.  You need at least one game. So that's 300 right there at launch. A no-brainer for a pack-in would either be A)Smash Bros 3 or B) Miyamoto's 'Non-game.'

What better way to get the word out by having a 'non-game' that makes use of the controller in every Rev console? This will sell the Rev's concept from the get-go.  Remember how Tetris's became so damn popular when the Game Boy launched? You guessed it, because it was in every box!
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« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2005, 06:04:55 AM »
It's true Nintendo would probably not offer so many downloads, in fact it's even more likely that Nintendo won't offer any free downloads at all...but it should.  It would be a great way to introduce people to the download "store", and it costs Nintendo next to nothing.  I'd still like to be able to choose the download...I think Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt is a good choice if you're going to force people to pick a certain download, but the game is so common a lot of people might consider it worthless.  I would.

I miss pack-in games too, and I'd love to have one, but Nintendo knows that most of the early adopters are huge fanatics that will happily buy a game separately anyway, so we're screwed.  The only way to get deals like that is to wait until they are desperate to boost sales.  Still, if I could get a Rev with Mario 128 packed-in, I'd be a very happy camper.  

I still think a pack-in demo is a hugely great idea, as well as a free download.  

Edit: Going back to the topic of limited edition colours for a second, I might be the only person who wants it, but I would gladly pay an extra $50 or maybe even $100 for a limited edition chrome Revolution if such a thing was made.  Sweet chrome...so shiny.
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« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2005, 10:00:59 AM »
Screw limited edition colors.. i want limited edition LEDs! =P

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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2005, 10:03:52 AM »
Sorry, no Xbox-themed Revolutions allowed.
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« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2005, 10:08:08 AM »
Man.. no

MS can't have green.. just because they used that crap... they aren't allowed to own a color.  =P
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« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2005, 10:14:18 AM »
Green and white would be a TAD too obvious.

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« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2005, 12:54:49 PM »
Limited edition LEDs sound good to me too.  How about limited edition disc slot lights?
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« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2005, 01:14:34 PM »
I think that was what he meant...
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« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2005, 04:13:49 PM »
How would that work? Would I be able to take out the LED amd switch it whenever I wanted?
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