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J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« on: October 07, 2005, 05:24:19 PM »
....And I think Billy conducted the interview. Here's a quote:

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Allard: I think it’s well intentioned. I think it’s great for them to say, “We’ve got to make it more approachable.” It’s the same reason our DVD remote, at the press conference I could have done our whole demo on the DVD remote because we put A, B, X, Y on the remote. We put the guide button on the remote. We put the media center button on the remote. You’re going to be able to play casual games on Live Arcade with the remote control.

Bwahahahaha.

I don't think there's anything I can add. He has more to say on it too, so click here , and scroll down.
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2005, 05:53:00 PM »
teh hilarity

And I thought that PR people were supposed to make at least a little bit of sense, but that didnt make sense at all.
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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2005, 06:05:37 PM »
One would hope they put media functions on their remote, it's nothing to brag about.

For those who didn't read the article, he proves later on that he actually knows what the Revolution does and didn't just look at the pictures. He  actually makes sense, just in a weird way.  Read what else he has to say, he's not completely clueless.
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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2005, 06:09:22 PM »
He knows what the revolution does, but he is so inside the box with his thinking.  Why do I have to keep pressing up when I scroll through my channel guide?  Wtf?  I know not everybody is on board with the revolution's controller but I think J missed the point.
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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2005, 06:17:24 PM »
accelerometers are a very, very different thing that 3D motion sensing and localization.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2005, 06:20:52 PM »
The guy is a HUGE egotist. Nintendo gets blamed for being conceited all the time but Allard and Kutaragi are far worse than anyone currently at Nintendo.

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RE:J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2005, 06:21:42 PM »
...okay, here's the rest:

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Four years ago I wrote an email treaty and said, “Why aren’t accelerometers in remote controls? Why can’t I scroll down my channel guide with a gesture instead of up, up, up, up? So I think that’s interesting. We did a lot of research with gamers, talk to a lot of game developers and said, “Should we put an accelerometer in there and do the tilt thing?” And there wasn’t that much enthusiasm around it. Maybe Nintendo will be more persuasive and have more ideas in first party than we did and that will take off. I don’t think that’s the way you’re going to play FIFA. I don’t think it’s the way you’re going to play Madden. I don’t think it’s the way you’re going to play racing games. I think the traditional controller for traditional categories is really going to be what drives that. I don’t think most Electronic Arts games are going to be played with that thing. I think they’re going to be designed for the classic controller.

But to the extent that they do innovative games and bring new gamers in, that’s good. The extent that we think, “Hmm, we’ve got to do something like that too because now there’s a category of third parties that really want a simplified controller.” That’s good. I’d be lying to you if I didn’t say, “Why don’t we just take the Atari 2600 joystick, slap a battery and radio in there, and make that compatible with Xbox 360 too?” Just like we did with USB keyboards you can plug in. Remote control, that’s great. Let’s take it one step further and do a simple controller. We’ve talked about it. I like the idea. I don’t know if I like the implementation because it ain’t my remote. How am I going to watch a movie on Revolution? Am I going to have a different remote than that or am I going to have to use the four colored buttons?


Note what he's actually saying here 1) Microsoft is already allowing non-gamers to play games with a remote control. 2) I thought of putting accelerometers in a remote control FIRST 3) Developers don't really want accelerometers in the controller 4) But coming up with a simplified controller is good...in fact, we're thinking of releasing a wilreless Atari 2600 controller!

Oh, and my favorite quote from the whole thing: "I like the idea. I don’t know if I like the implementation because it ain’t my remote. How am I going to watch a movie on Revolution? Am I going to have a different remote than that or am I going to have to use the four colored buttons?"

Seriously, Microsoft, here's what you say in response to questions about the REV's controller from now on: "we applaud Nintendo's innovation, but are worried their controller might not work for traditional game types as well as conventional controllers, like ours." Stop trying to pretend that you came up with the idea, and stop being so, you know, moronic.  
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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2005, 06:32:10 PM »
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I think they’re going to be designed for the classic controller.

This quote surprised me because I figured he either didn't know about or wouldn't acknowlege the Rev's classic shell....but now I figure he just means THEIR controllers, and he really IS clueless
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2005, 06:32:27 PM »
Even Peter Moore is on the silly bandwagon in that interview:

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I love it because I can take [Kameo] home and play it with my daughter.  There are not a lot of games I can sit at home and play with my 13 year old daughter and both of us can have fun.


That's so hilarious.

The Allard quote about how you use the remote for DVDs is so mentally challenged it's depressing the reporter didn't call him on it. Why must video game journalists by and large asks such wimpy questions?  

Ouch...it was Billy? That's disappointing. When he was working at PGC he asked some tough questions and wasn't afraid to press Nintendo. I'm disappointed he's not allowed to do that anymore.

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2005, 06:39:47 PM »
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I think they’re going to be designed for the classic controller.

This quote surprised me because I figured he either didn't know about or wouldn't acknowlege the Rev's classic shell....but now I figure he just means THEIR controllers, and he really IS clueless


Not to mention EA's first comment was " the rev controller is going to be used in our sports games".

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2005, 06:41:05 PM »
I think all anyone needs to know about where Microsoft's heart is that they feel EA are the pinnacle of game designers.

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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2005, 06:47:52 PM »
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Ouch...it was Billy? That's disappointing. When he was working at PGC he asked some tough questions and wasn't afraid to press Nintendo. I'm disappointed he's not allowed to do that anymore.

eh, I think he asked some touch questions.

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GI:  In terms of say Nintendo, you have Mario, their all-star that everyone knows.  At this point, I think your lineup is kind of across the board and you have a lot of things for a lot of people.  Perfect Dark you picked to be the big hit out of the whole thing but there’s not really like a standout title in the whole thing.  There’s not really a standout title anywhere in the market.

Moore:  So are you wondering if 25 great titles are better than one spectacular huge title?

GI:  Yeah.

Moore:  I think as long as retail sells and consumers are happy, we’re selling a lot of stuff and you guy have a lot to write about.  And who knows, one will pop up.  Don’t underestimate Kameo.


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GI: We’ve asked a number of the developers here today about how they’re doing the DD9 and they’re basically going like, “We’re slamming it. We’re filling it. Every single game.” Then they talked about compression and how you’re going to use it in the future to combat games that get bigger and bigger. Have you pounded on any of those things?

Allard: Well, we’ve gotta do better with compression. I mean, we’re not totally where we want to be with compression. Honestly, stuff comes in hot. Here we’re trying to do a worldwide launch of this very ambitious program and developers will tell you they’re not really satisfied what we did with the DVD emulator or compression. And therefore their layouts are in DVD. They’re struggling with that. They’re cutting corners. I mean, basically what happens when you get bundled hardware late – you’re sloppy. With all deference to the developers you’ve got to take every out you can. And so they’re not applying all of their talents as they will next year or the year after to get what they can out of it. They’re being a little sloppy with the CPU. They’re being a little sloppy with the discs. They’re being a little sloppy with the formats and compression to make launch. And next year you’ll see that they tighten that up and can get more out of the system by using the same disc capacity, the same memory, the same art tools. They’ll be able to get a lot more out of the system next year. That’s why games look better year over year. It’s primarily because hardware comes in hot and developers use the schedule, not just to learn the hardware but also cut a couple of corners.


As for the Rev thing, note that he first asked about the competition, and then when Allard didn't mention Nintendo, he specifically asked about the REV. After that, he didn't really need to skewer Allard with Rev-related follow-ups...because Allard pretty much skewered himself.    
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2005, 07:19:03 PM »
The 360 control is the real revolution....mark my words!
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2005, 07:41:17 PM »
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As for the Rev thing, note that he first asked about the competition, and then when Allard didn't mention Nintendo, he specifically asked about the REV. After that, he didn't really need to skewer Allard with Rev-related follow-ups...because Allard pretty much skewered himself.


Yeah, that's a valid point. And it's not like XBOX fans, who the interview is for, really care about it. I guess it was just such a moronic statement I wish someone called him on it. Seriously. He doesn't know if it'll work because how can it play DVDs!? Excuse me? He had no trouble with people buying the XBOX DVD remote, but the idea of having a Rev DVD remote is impossible? It's like he doesn't get the controller isn't just a regular controller in remote form...

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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2005, 08:02:33 PM »
Uh... how do DVD's work on the Rev?

Has he never heard of point and click?
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2005, 09:50:40 PM »
Allard is a barrel of laughs...Sorry, Allard, but we are laughing AT you, not with you...
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RE:J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2005, 10:38:05 PM »
Hey cut the guy some slack. He agrees with Nintendo!

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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2005, 10:58:05 PM »
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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2005, 02:33:49 AM »
I'm praying to god that someone manages to interview J togheter with REGGIE in some kind of show-off interview thingie and Reggie kicks his ass so much J leaves crying before the interview even started. Really, someone should kick J in the nuts very hard, even moderate Xbox-fans see this guy as a genuine prickass, duche bag and other very nasty things.

You know why developers weren't that exciting about those motors in your remote J? because you and MS weren't using them for games but screen scrolling...freakin screenscrolling. Buy yourself a set of brains an go figure it out yourself...seriously.
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RE:J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2005, 04:11:29 AM »
He should have just stuck with Moore's comments from earlier.

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RE:J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2005, 07:01:21 AM »
This mock interview with J Allard was pretty funny http://www.weebls-stuff.com/articles/446/j-allard-interview

Does anyone remember the G4 Reggie interview back at E3, I remember the host commented it was originaly supposed to be a discussion with reps from all 3 companies, but when they heard Reggie was going to be there, MS and Sony backed out. They had it on Gamespot, I'll have to find the video.

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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2005, 07:23:55 AM »
yes, thats true. I remember that. Gamespot is under some heavy changes right now so its difficult to find it, but if I found it Ill put the link.
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RE: J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2005, 08:02:31 AM »
See Consolevania 2.2 for some more J. Allard hilarity.

If you can't find the GS Live video I still have it somewhere. Think I archived it to disc when I needed room for video, so it'll take a little searching.
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2005, 11:27:41 PM »
Wow that weebls fake interview was awesome to the Xtreme!

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RE:J Allard reveals what he thinks about REV's controller
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2005, 09:41:47 AM »
OptimusPrime, THANKS for putting J. Allard where he belongs! That guy has always annoyed me.

Just LOOKING at him makes me laugh! He looks like a cross between a Vin Dielsel look-alike, and somebody who´s  been smoking too much hashis! Total loser! Him and Kutaragi....Muhahahahahaha....Muhahahahaha...muhahahahaha!!!!!!!

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