Topic: So what's the deal? No more Revolution news until E3 '06?

[NotSoStu]

Are we just not going to hear anything about Revolution or its' games until E3 '06? That's the impression that I got from the up-tops when they were interviewed after the Revolution's controller was shown off...

8 months is too long. >_<

[Strell]

I thought Iwata/others were mentioning that more would be shown within the next month...?

[Hostile Creation]

Iwata specifically said he'd be revealing more stuff in October.  Probably wi-fi details, since that's around when the DS wifi stuff is coming out.

[NotSoStu]

Well, he seems to have just taken the wraps off of most of the details of Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. And, of course, no mention of Revolution.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=11639

However, hopefully this "within the next month" stuff will be *gasp* GAMES?!

[Karl Castaneda #2]

Octoberton awaits!

And then there's always CES and GDC, so I expect that we'll know a lot more when E3 2006 rolls around.

[Ian Sane]

If they're smart they'll show off some games before the X360 launch.  People aren't going to wait because of a vague concept but they will wait if there's this awesome game they want.  Plus it makes no sense for Nintendo to hide anything now.  The controller was the big secret they were afraid would be copied.  That was the whole point of being secretive.  They have no reason to hide anything else from us now for any significant period of time.

Unless what they're hiding is bad.  If the graphics are total ass or they don't have any decent games in the works then I could see the need for secrecy.  But if that's the case they're f*cked anyway so they might as well let the cat out of the bag now instead of letting us get hyped up for a disappointment.

I am pretty concerned that they've let these "the Rev is underpowered" rumours go on without making any effort to kill them.  Have they not revealed the specs yet or shown any screens because the Rev IS underpowered?

[Artimus]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Unless what they're hiding is bad.  If the graphics are total ass or they don't have any decent games in the works then I could see the need for secrecy.

Or the games need to be 'blow them away' before being unveiled, and they're not that far along in development.

[Ian Sane]

"Or the games need to be 'blow them away' before being unveiled, and they're not that far along in development."

That too, but they SHOULD be a little further along than that at this point.

I'm not the only person sceptical about this controller.  They can't leave us hanging forever.  We need to see something to sell us on the concept like Super Mario 64 did for the analog stick.

[KnowsNothing]

If the Xbox 360 games aren't that far along, I don't see why the Revolution's should be..

[ThePerm]

if they showed  off super mario 64 for that controller...everyone would think thats  the  new mario game...cus of course  idiots.

[Artimus]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Or the games need to be 'blow them away' before being unveiled, and they're not that far along in development."

That too, but they SHOULD be a little further along than that at this point.

I'm not the only person sceptical about this controller.  They can't leave us hanging forever.  We need to see something to sell us on the concept like Super Mario 64 did for the analog stick.

The system is about a year away. Assuming an 18 month development cycle that would mean the games were around 1/3 done. When you consider all the things like graphics, sound and such come in the last third of the cycle...not so likely. They could show off renders, but that hardly does anything.

Sony hasn't showed a playable PS3 game yet, remember.

[KnowsNothing]

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Sony hasn't showed a playable PS3 game yet, remember.

While I agree with you point, that's hardly a convincing argument  Sony has showed off movies of what they claim to be real time- whether it will look like that when you're playing doesn't matter, it's certainly gotten a lot of people pumped.

In the case of the Rev though, Nintendo wants people to see the Rev and play the Rev at the same time, so it's likely that we'll get a ton of info at E3 and not much until then...

[Artimus]

But the argument is Nintendo needs to convince people the controller is good, and that has to be done with playing. So videos won't be enough. Though, one could argue the controller has done the same?

If Sony isn't ready for their traditionally controlled games to be played, it's a hard argument to blame Nintendo for the same.

[Ian Sane]

Well Nintendo could at least show us a demonstration of the graphics.  We didn't see confirmed Cube titles at Spaceworld 2000 but we knew what the Cube was capable of graphically over a year before launch.  Unless they don't want to show us the graphics because they're not on par with the competition's.  That's the only reason I can think of for not showing anything.  They can crush all of those rumours easily, unless the rumours are true.

[couchmonkey]

I think we'll see and learn more before then.  Games?  I don't know.  I'm actually content with what Nintendo has shown me.  Realistically, if Revolution lives up to what Nintendo is promising it won't matter anyway, any nonbelievers that go buy an Xbox 360 will be replaced by new people looking for an experience they can't get on either of the competing systems.

I think Nintendo will show something before E3, though.  The company has become much less secretive.  It used to be that you could expect to hear almost nothing between Christmas and E3 except for games that were actually being released in that period, but lately there are no surprises left at E3, they give them all away during the first quarter or so of the year (kind of disappointing, in a way).  My guess is they'll show one or two key games at GDC or some such in spring.  Between now and then, there will be a steady trickle of rather boring information.

[KnowsNothing]

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But the argument is Nintendo needs to convince people the controller is good, and that has to be done with playing. So videos won't be enough.

I didn't word it clearly, but that's basically what my last sentance said in my prior post

[Bill Aurion]

I think it's almost guaranteed that Ninty will drop a bomb of some sort around the 360 launch...

[Caliban]

Didn't someone from Nintendo say that they would have given most of the details by the end of the year? If this is true that leaves E3 to give us the real release date of the console and it's launch titles.  

[NotSoStu]

Well, they said that they'd drop the details on the controller before the end of the year.

And we've seen the controller.

So now what?

[Caliban]

They said there was more and I'm not considering the Wi-Fi details as "there's more".

[NotSoStu]

Well, then, I guess I'll take your word on it.

[IceCold]

From GameIndustry Link

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A Nintendo-branded USB Wi-Fi access point will appear on the shelves along side the first Wi-Fi enabled game for use by gamers who don't have a wireless Internet connection already set up - which would suggest that third party wireless access points can also be used.

Online retailer Play is already taking pre-orders for the "Nintendo DS USB Access Point", due for release on November 11. The adaptor is priced at GBP 14.99, a saving on what Play claims is an RRP of GBP 19.99.

MSRP of 19.99 pounds? That's $40 Canadian! Even with the reduced price, that's $30 CDN. I expected at least 5 or 10 dollars less for the USB dongle, especially with how cheap routers which I can use for anything are going. In fact, I saw a more than decent router for $30 after all the rebates. Maybe it's the whole convenience thing, but it's still pretty expensive.

[Rancid Planet]

I think that whatever Nintendo's plans are for when they release pics and movies of Rev software, they should stick with the "a little info at a time" plan. It helps to not confuse people or muddle things that should be talked about. I think Nintendo want us to sit and think about the controller for a while, that's why we're not seeing the "standard shell" yet or any game footage.

It's a smart move as all the details that we get will be closely examined and not passed over for other less important crap. But yeah, I really want to see some game footage before Christmas. And it would be VERY smart of Nintendo to show some before the x360 comes out.

[ShyGuy]

Don't you guys know? The Revolution is going to have less power than an Atari 2600!

[Michael8983]

I think Nintendo is just worrying about repeating the Zelda incident.
It could probably whip up some amazing looking demos representing the games that are in developer like it did at the Spaceworld where the Gamecube was revealed the problem is the actual games could still go through major changes by the time they're actualy released.
Nintendo showed an ultra-realistic Zelda at Spaceworld but ended up making it a cartoon.
It showed Samus running around in a third-person view but ended up putting her in a first-person-perspective game. Luigi was running around, sliding down banisters and most notably NOT carrying a vacuume when his game was first revealed. People were p*ssed off when these titles were finally revealed in detail the nexy year and were nothing like what people had imagined them to be.