Author Topic: More Revolution details soon? (Read 93565 times)

pudu · « **Reply #375 on:** September 10, 2005, 06:36:22 PM »

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I'm so looking forward to this.

Either we do get some Rev info or we don't get Rev info and every Nintendo fan on the internet goes berserk... again. This is like the epitome of win-win.

One could say it's all our own faults for looking to far into rumors and speculation...but is it not Ninty's fault for giving us nothing while the other two console makers deliver info. on a more-or-less regular basis? What is to stop them from showing specs? How the online will work? etc... Man if come this thursday I hear nothing I'm going to pretty pissed and upset. I'll definately be in a f@$@#ck it attitude. Only one to blame is me too.

wandering · « **Reply #376 on:** September 10, 2005, 07:41:42 PM »

I have the sinking suspicion Iwata won't offer us anything except the future date of the Rev unveiling.

But it won't matter because it will feature IWATA by the TON....and as his wise words rain down upon us mortals we will experience the ultimate nirvana of infinite electronic understanding as we become one with the knoweldge of Iwata. Or something.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #377 on:** September 10, 2005, 08:12:15 PM »

"but is it not Ninty's fault for giving us nothing while the other two console makers deliver info. on a more-or-less regular basis?"

Considering Sony and MS don't have anything special going for their systems, why WOULD they hide their info?

"What is to stop them from showing specs?"

The fact that specs don't mean jackshit? Probably!

pudu · « **Reply #378 on:** September 10, 2005, 09:47:32 PM »

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"What is to stop them from showing specs?"

The fact that specs don't mean jackshit? Probably!

The same argument could be used for why they should show them. If they mean nothing why not just make their fans that want to know them happy and show them. If they are done and final nothing will change them so there is no reason to hold the info. back. Besides, it's not the system specs they even care about mainly...good way of showing you are confident with how "unimportant" specs are by appearing to be affraid to show them. If they aren't worried then they sure aren't showing it by appearing to have something to hide...which contradicts their whole master plan they go on and on about.

P.S. Please forgive me if my posts sound negative today. I've had a terrible day and I'm in a rotten mood so I remedied it with watching more Katrina news and then getting depressed watching the music special "react now"...man I need to go to bed.

Truthliesn1seyes · « **Reply #379 on:** September 10, 2005, 11:18:19 PM »

Ran into 2 nuggets of info over at the Gamespot forums.

First we have another patent regarding laser projection, headsets, sterioscopic images etc etc....... Anyways, here's the link

Patent

The strange thing is that no where in the patent does it make mention of Nintendo but in the URL address, you can see it has Nintendo RS written in there. I'm not sure how relevent that is since the person was doing a search for Nintendo patents. That could've appeared given the word "Nintendo" was what he was searching for, yet RS wasn't included in his search. Probably meaningless but worth bringing to your attention regardless.

Second, one of the forum members over at Gamespot had a quick chat with Ray Almeda, Head-editor of the Advanced Media Network, and this is what he had to say

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Almeda: “Why I know it's coming...? Let's just say that THREE THINGS are planned for that day that will be HUGE for Nintendo. 2 we know... 1 we speculate.”

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Almeda: “Why I know it's coming...? Let's just say that THREE THINGS are planned for that day that will be HUGE for Nintendo. 2 we know... 1 we speculate.”

DS109: "are you allowed to disclose those 2 things?"

Almeda: "yes, Mario 20th Anniversary, GB Micro launch, All on 9-13-05 in japan."

Almeda: "9-13-05 on the U.S.A., on the other hands is 9-14-05 in japan.

Almeda: "Tuesday night... that's all I'll say."

Almeda: "I'll spread the word... because I know more insider details that I can't talk about right now, but if you want more... pay attention to AMN on Tuesday night... possibly other sites will follow too."

The forum member says he has proof of said conversation and is willing to provide it with a PM. If this holds up to be true, seems like we'll have some type of news coming out of AMN's site on tuesday night. Only a matter of days now people lol.

wandering · « **Reply #380 on:** September 11, 2005, 01:27:28 AM »

"The same argument could be used for why they should show them. If they mean nothing why not just make their fans that want to know them happy and show them. If they are done and final nothing will change them so there is no reason to hold the info. back. Besides, it's not the system specs they even care about mainly...good way of showing you are confident with how "unimportant" specs are by appearing to be affraid to show them. If they aren't worried then they sure aren't showing it by appearing to have something to hide...which contradicts their whole master plan they go on and on about."

The thing is, I believe Nintendo is actively trying to avoid direct comparisons between REV and the other 2 systems. That was their strategy with the DS: they sidestepped PSP's superior graphics capabilities by coming out with a system with 2 screens and a touch screen, so that when you put the systems side-by-side it's hard to compare them.

I'm assuming that the REV's specs are good but not spectacular. If they released them now people would jump at the chance to compare the REV to the other 2 systems using those numbers, and they would probably come to the conclusion that the REV, at the least, is not the best of the 3 systems. But Nintendo is making sure that people aren't making judgement calls like that right now...and that when people are in a position to directly compare the 3 systems, they won't be able to just look at the specs because REV's unique features and visuals will overshadow the numbers.

It's a good strategy, much as we might hate it.

pudu · « **Reply #381 on:** September 11, 2005, 09:04:45 AM »

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I'm assuming that the REV's specs are good but not spectacular. If they released them now people would jump at the chance to compare the REV to the other 2 systems using those numbers, and they would probably come to the conclusion that the REV, at the least, is not the best of the 3 systems. But Nintendo is making sure that people aren't making judgement calls like that right now...and that when people are in a position to directly compare the 3 systems, they won't be able to just look at the specs because REV's unique features and visuals will overshadow the numbers.

I guess the problem I see with this stratagy is that it doesn't matter if they have released the specs or not, most people (even people like you who I'm assuming is a Nintendo fan) have already got it in their heads that the Rev's specs are inferior to that of the other consoles. As of now people can't say it with 100% certainty but people are saying it none-the-less due to numerous hints given by Nintendo and their console track record pointing in that direction. I mean, just the very fact that they won't release the specs is probably reason enough to believe they aren't as good because if they were there wouldn't be as much of a reason not to release them right?

Overall, though, I think you're right and Nintendo has good reason in their stratagy to not reveal the specs. At least not until they give more information on the consoles unique feature's first.

Fro · « **Reply #382 on:** September 11, 2005, 10:31:43 AM »

Rumor from AMN is that there will be a press leak of most of what Iwata will say at the TGS on Thursday Night US/Friday Japan on Tuesday Night US/Wednesday Japan, similar to what happened before E3.

mjbd · « **Reply #383 on:** September 11, 2005, 10:56:10 AM »

Its tough to say just how powerful Rev will be, but I dont really think it matters that much. Even if Nintendo were to come out with the most advanced hardware, I dont think they would be that much more successful than they have been with gamecube. Sony owns the market right now, and if you play by they're rules, you wont stand much of a chance. If the DS shows us anything, its that you can have the better hardware without having the best graphics. Besides, I wouldnt doubt that Rev games will look very similar to XBOX360 games, but wont be able to run at 720p. So unless Revs special features suck, I would expect Rev to have great success.

stevey · « **Reply #384 on:** September 11, 2005, 01:22:07 PM »

"Rumor from AMN is that there will be a press leak of most of what Iwata will say at the TGS on Thursday Night US/Friday Japan on Tuesday Night US/Wednesday Japan, similar to what happened before E3. "

yes if you not lieing I KILL YOU IF YOU ARE ¤_¤ than two more day till Iwataton

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #385 on:** September 11, 2005, 04:21:54 PM »

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Its tough to say just how powerful Rev will be, but I dont really think it matters that much. Even if Nintendo were to come out with the most advanced hardware, I dont think they would be that much more successful than they have been with gamecube. Sony owns the market right now, and if you play by they're rules, you wont stand much of a chance. If the DS shows us anything, its that you can have the better hardware without having the best graphics. Besides, I wouldnt doubt that Rev games will look very similar to XBOX360 games, but wont be able to run at 720p. So unless Revs special features suck, I would expect Rev to have great success.

It's hard to say if games will run at the higher resolution (not just 480p) because Nintendo stated that it would hook to a computer monitor. Unless they want their visuals to suck ass on that monitor, they need to bump up the resolution.

ThePerm · « **Reply #386 on:** September 11, 2005, 04:53:24 PM »

its from my impression that perrin kapplan really doesnt know what is going o n half the time..even h er last statements made me wonder i f she even has seen the controller. It just seems t o me she has t o remember the pr..not actually create it.

IceCold · « **Reply #387 on:** September 11, 2005, 06:17:11 PM »

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...most people (even people like you who I'm assuming is a Nintendo fan) have already got it in their heads that the Rev's specs are inferior to that of the other consoles. As of now people can't say it with 100% certainty but people are saying it none-the-less due to numerous hints given by Nintendo and their console track record pointing in that direction.

Hmm...sorry, but I can't think of any Nintendo console yet that has been underpowered compared to the competition. Remember when people thought that the PS2 was more powerful than the Gamecube?

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #388 on:** September 11, 2005, 07:02:37 PM »

Ya I don't get that either IceCold. I see this mistake everywhere I go on the interweb.

When has Nintendo produced a graphically inferior console?

pudu · « **Reply #389 on:** September 11, 2005, 08:02:50 PM »

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...most people (even people like you who I'm assuming is a Nintendo fan) have already got it in their heads that the Rev's specs are inferior to that of the other consoles. As of now people can't say it with 100% certainty but people are saying it none-the-less due to numerous hints given by Nintendo and their console track record pointing in that direction.
Hmm...sorry, but I can't think of any Nintendo console yet that has been underpowered compared to the competition. Remember when people thought that the PS2 was more powerful than the Gamecube?

I guess I should have simply said track record because I was mainly thinking of the last few products they have released (portables) which haven't been anything new or bleeding edge tech-wise (3 GBA designs and now with the DS). I was mainly thinking of the DS and how they say it's going to be a similar concept in how they are approaching the next gen for their console.

From what I understand they usually downplay graphics and huge tech specs to a certain extent for a more realistic look at what their machine can do and placing an importance on the overall structure and how well each component interacts (avoiding bottlenecks, etc.). You're right, though, I shouldn't have said "console track record" because for the most part their consoles are all-around well designed and turn out to be worthy competition for the other consoles.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #390 on:** September 12, 2005, 03:45:13 AM »

Well, only four more days until the TGS. I'm getting excited. If it turns out nothing is revealed, I think I might cry.

Dasmos · « **Reply #391 on:** September 12, 2005, 03:52:51 AM »

But Iwata will be there and he will make you smile. Or at least he would make me smile......

Mario · « **Reply #392 on:** September 12, 2005, 05:19:54 AM »

As far as I see things, there's no point being cynical about it, Nintendo are going to reveal TONS of things about the Rev along with a MEDIA BLOWOUT including trailers of SSB, Mario, Metroid and new games. If it doesn't happen (and it WILL!), will I be let down? Hell no! Win Win!

3 days 11 hours 42 minutes 30 seconds to go!

Strell · « **Reply #393 on:** September 12, 2005, 05:25:41 AM »

I know what the controller scheme is.

I was showering this morning and thinking about Kaplan's comments about how "we are securing rights" and such. And I then I thought about how there can't be demoes in stores. And then I thought about how it will be revolutionary, how it's going to be an entirely new way of playing games, how no one else has done it yet BUT could easily copy it, and how seemingly everything has been telling us that it will be something we've basically seen before, but not exactly utilized correctly. I thought about how the graphics are supposed to be on par with the other systems despite the size of the console, and how older games will be updated. Then I thought about the sanity system Nintendo just patented.

And it hit me.

Drugs.

Nintendo is going to make drugs legal. The Revolution is the start of societal crumble because it will make drugs legal and the main interface.

I mean, why else patent a sanity system? And even if the graphics aren't as good as the others, you'll be hallucinating so badly that it won't matter. And then playing all of those old games will be REALLY SUPER AWESOME instead of just mildly awesome. You'll see things that aren't there. Hell, there's going to be an HUD on the system that shows the exact percentage of sanity you have left.

This explains all of the following:
1) No demoes.
2) Can be copied easily.
3) Graphics debate becomes void.
4) New ways of playing, but have been utilized (c'mon, you all know people who are high when they play games).

Feeling is better? Feeling. How you feel. Not touch, feel. Emotions. Reactions. Psychological.

Use your right brain? Precisely.

Something you've never seen before? Of course! You're going to be seeing a lot of things you've never seen before!

That's it, I am very sure of this. I win.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #394 on:** September 12, 2005, 05:29:04 AM »

"And I then I thought about how there can't be demoes in stores"

This wasn't from an official source...People are mixing up rumours with facts now... =\

Rhoq · « **Reply #395 on:** September 12, 2005, 06:18:40 AM »

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"And I then I thought about how there can't be demoes in stores"

This wasn't from an official source...People are mixing up rumours with facts now... =\

Well, they can have demos - but supplying the drugs will get too expensive for Nintendo - so gamers eager to get the full "Revolution" experience, will have to bring their own bag of goodies to the kiosks.

wandering · « **Reply #396 on:** September 12, 2005, 07:26:21 AM »

And pass up the chance to get people addicted? No way!

When you go with Mario, the first mushroom's always free.(TM)

That should be Nintendo's slogan.

If they, you know, decide to go the mind-altering drug route.

Pale · « **Reply #397 on:** September 12, 2005, 09:32:49 AM »

Someone really needs to make an official Iwataton thread...

So we know where to autorefresh starting wednesday night. =P

The Omen · « **Reply #398 on:** September 12, 2005, 12:38:18 PM »

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Well, they can have demos - but supplying the drugs will get too expensive for Nintendo - so gamers eager to get the full "Revolution" experience, will have to bring their own bag of goodies to the kiosks.

I know plenty of hallucinogens that can be grown for dirt cheap. ;P

At any rate, I simply am hoping against hope we hear something at TGS. I am getting impatient. Though not as impatient as the MeGTn months.

stevey · « **Reply #399 on:** September 12, 2005, 12:57:15 PM »

lol drug idea funny

can I buy some pot from you?

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