Topic: Saturo Iwata: revolution graphics as good as competitors

[Epitaph]

Saturo Iwata and myamoto interview with egm reveals new insight and relief into the future of the revolution

http://www.jeux-france.com/news11419_iwata-et-miyamoto-se-confient.html

Its in french, but its a translation from egm according to the site. The site gets there information from reliable websites as well as magazines.

Shigeru Miyamoto

-Miyamoto was focussing on nintendo gamecube hense the reason mario 128 has been pushed to revolution

- The point of the revolution is to allow inovation and not only a graphical leap

- Miyamoto's team is in the works on a super smash bros for ds

- A new luigi game is in the works

- No new pikmin game is not in the works but the revolution interface would be ideal for such a game

- Myamoto wants to build a game utilising stage debut( technology that allows you to graph 3d images into games)

Satoru Iwata

- The online connection of the revolution will be as easy as the ds

- Mario Party Online might take flight on revolution

- Revolution has no ethernet port

- The graphics of the revolution should be on par with xbox 360 or playstation 3

- Some downloadable games will be playable online

I would use babel fish to translate but its not working  

[pudu]

Hmm I was just looking @ ps3forums.com and ran into what I think is the same thing (LINK)

The person who posted it said it came from EGM via Eurogamer forums

This is only the Miyamoto part of the interview though:

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EGM: Some people are saying Nintendo has given up trying to lead technologically and is focused on innovation.

SM: I don't think the Revolution's (graphics) will be inferior in any fashion to Xbox 360 or PS3. Even if you look at Zelda on GameCube - I don't think that looks inferior to what the competition is touting as "next generation" visuals. But we think there are more important things for now than making the system work with a high-definition television. The majority of people won't be playing our system with an HDTV, (though) with the Revolution, 480p resolution will be standard. We are not making light of graphics and technology - we are trying to make the best-balanced machine that will appeal to the most people.

EGM: Why make the DVD player optional with Revolution? And how will it work - is it an attachment or a remote or what?

SM: The majority of households already own a DVD player or two. We don't want them to spend extra money just to have a console which happens to have DVD capability. And the DVD player isn't going to be an attachment; it’s going to go inside the machine so you won't even (be able to) tell the difference.

EGM: You've promised Wi-Fi for the Revolution but will it also have a standard Ethernet port?

SM: (No, it) doesn't have an Ethernet port. However, through the USB port, it’s possible to have Ethernet with an adapter. Considering where the machine will be placed in the household, we think it would be difficult for people to route the typical Ethernet line to it. Also, We're considering connecting the DS with the Revolution via Wi-Fi.

EGM: Moving on to other games--we know Smash Bros. is coming to the Revolution, but what about DS?

SM: We're thinking about it.

EGM: What about Luigi's Mansion? Is that series over, or will we ever see another?

SM: The director often says, "Make another one! Make another one!" and I want to use Luigi again.

EGM: Any chance we'll see another Pikmin?

SM: Nothings set in stone yet, but the interface we're creating for the Revolution is well suited for Pikmin - I think it would be a good match. Not much I can say other than that.

EGM: Will we ever see anything more of Stage Debut? (a technology demo that allowed players to map their face on in-game characters)?

SM: Yeah, I want to do something with it.

EGM: Speaking of the virtual console, might older offline multiplayer games, like Mario Party, be altered so you could play them online with the Revolution?

SM: We know that we will offer the past games for sure. But we are discussing the possibility of having older games like Mario party playable online. So if our discussion goes well, and if the technical aspects of Revolution also go well, that's possible.

EGM: You've said the Revolution controller will be unique - do you worry about it alienating developers? Say Splinter Cell comes out for all the next-gen systems; might the Revolution controller be so different that it'd be tough to map the controls onto?

SM: Well, of course, the idea is that the Revolution will sell and sell and sell so it becomes the standard in the industry. (Smiles) However, at least for the launch period...we designed the controller so it can play any of the different conventional styles. After all, we are talking about it playing games from our past machines (ie the virtual console). So don't worry.

[nickmitch]

Liking this:

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However, at least for the launch period...we designed the controller so it can play any of the different conventional styles. After all, we are talking about it playing games from our past machines (ie the virtual console). So don't worry.

And just the other day I was thinking about a game starring Luigi with Waluigi as the main villain.

[nemo_83]

The idea of another Luigi Mansion = bad

Why, because there need to be fewer Mario Bros games and the Mario Bros need to be together in all Mario Bros games.

The new interface will benefit the new Pikmin = good

Obviously refering to either a trackball or gyro for mouse functions.

[couchmonkey]

Interesting.  If the second article is the actual translation, then he didn't really say the system would be as powerful as the others, he just gave some smoke and mirrors about how even Zelda looks as good as a 360 or PS3 game.  I'm betting on Rev to be the least powerful console of the next gen, but maybe not by a wide margin.  People will notice more that Nintendo focuses on cartoony graphics than that the system is actually less powerful.

I'm glad to hear the controller will play any type of game, that puts many fears to rest.  Overall, seems like a positive interview.

[BigJim]

Good news about the controller. It again sounds like it is adaptable, or at least compatible, with a typical controller layout.

The Zelda comment gives me no confidence in the graphical performance being equal to the others. He'd probably say so if it were. Not even having an HD option is an obvious disadvantage.

[mantidor]

"I don't think the Revolution's (graphics) will be inferior in any fashion to Xbox 360 or PS3. Even if you look at Zelda on GameCube - I don't think that looks inferior to what the competition is touting as "next generation" visuals."

"even" is the keyword, remove the last sentence if you are that worried.

"I don't think the Revolution's (graphics) will be inferior in any fashion to Xbox 360 or PS3."

So unless is a mistranslation it sounds perfectly fine for me, the comment about Zelda is his way of saying that next generation its not really that impresive compared with current gen. Something many of us can agree with.

Its going to look awesome, you know it, I know it. Its unbelievable how every tiny piece of oficial Nintendo news about revolution is a good thing yet you people somehow need to be worried, its so odd to not be a negative Nintendo fan ...  

[stevey]

"-Miyamoto was focussing on nintendo gamecube hense the reason mario 128 has been pushed to revolution"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit"- A new luigi game is in the works"

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit2" - No new pikmin game is not in the works but the revolution interface would be ideal for such a game"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit3"- Mario Party Online might take flight on revolution"

yes!

edit4"- The graphics of the revolution should be on par with xbox 360 or playstation 3"

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"- Some downloadable games will be playable online"

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

[kirby_killer_dedede]

About HD...

Remember E3 2004?  When Nintendo was making a big deal about it being able to hook up to a computer monitor?  Yeah, I'm pretty sick of this whining about no HD when the computer functionality obviously hints at HD functionality when connected to a computer.

And about Zelda...

As much as I can't wait to play the new Zelda, I also can't help but be underwhelmed by the visuals.  Maybe this is just me wanting the same feeling of awe I had with OoT/TWW again, but are the grass textures in the village place where Link starts off about on par with Ocarina? And the mutant big-forehead Reggie, I'm just not feeling him. -_-

[Dasmos]

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Originally posted by: nemo_83

The idea of another Luigi Mansion = bad

Why, because there need to be fewer Mario Bros games and the Mario Bros need to be together in all Mario Bros games.

You have to be kidding right? Luigi's Mansion still remains as one of my favourite games on GCN......and i bought it at launch. I can't wait for a sequel or another game starring the green brother!!

[nickmitch]

And I think that we'd all like to see a Paper Luigi.

[Truthliesn1seyes]

If anyone is so bothered by Iwata using Zelda as a benchmark to compare to next gen graphics, then replace it with Resident Evil 4.  That'll help everyone realize the point Iwata was trying to get across.

[pudu]

Just to clarify, the original post gives main points about what both Shigeru Miyamoto and Satoru Iwata said.  It was Iwata that supposedly said that "The graphics of the revolution should be on par with xbox 360 or playstation 3" in that translation and that's why there is no word of it in what I found on ps3forums.com because it is only what Miyamoto said.  Miyamoto's translation seems to match up though so perhaps Iwata really said that.

[IceCold]

"Miyamoto was focussing on nintendo gamecube hense the reason mario 128 has been pushed to revolution"

Good thing too; I wanted a special Mario title for the Rev - wow I'm looking so forward to it.

"Miyamoto's team is in the works on a super smash bros for ds"

It most probably won't come out for a while, and it shouldn't. Keep it for a bit later on in the DS's life cycle. Wonder if it will be mostly a port or there will be many new ideas implemented. I know that Iwata (?) said that they had many ideas that they hadn't included in Melee, but I don't know; they need those for SSBR.

"Some downloadable games will be playable online"

He said they were thinking about it in the other post, and it's a good idea, but if this happens then I think that they are putting a bit too much emphasis on previous games. You could just keep playing those old games over and over, and not buy any new Rev games.

"480p resolution will be standard"

Interesting - hadn't heard that before.

- I want Pikmin Revolution!
- USB

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I'm glad to hear the controller will play any type of game, that puts many fears to rest.  Overall, seems like a positive interview.

But Reggie said that ages ago...  

[Famicom]

That's real hot news. Lots of questions for the most part answered.

-Controller won't be too weird to play all games for the "launch period"?? Dunno what that means, but good...for now.

-Older games may be online enabled! SCORE.

-Rev will be graphically comparable to the other systems (though the way mentioned might be misleading).

-Ethernet support with an accessory (hopefully widely available).

-480p will be the standard--so SOME form of enhanced definition for sure.

This newsbit pretty much answers most of my concerns. Now hopefully when they blow the lid on this thing we'll have plenty of third party support to go along with it (IMO the LARGEST concern).

[KDR_11k]

It's Satoru, Saturo is that one bad guy from Golden Sun.

Famicom: I think Iwata means that the launch games won't be very innovative because most third parties will just port their NG games.

[nemo_83]

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Originally posted by: nemo_83

The idea of another Luigi Mansion = bad

Why, because there need to be fewer Mario Bros games and the Mario Bros need to be together in all Mario Bros games.

You have to be kidding right? Luigi's Mansion still remains as one of my favourite games on GCN......and i bought it at launch. I can't wait for a sequel or another game starring the green brother!!

How can you say you want Nintendo to continue to water down one of their three biggest franchises.  There have been way too many Mario Bros games on GameCube (Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, Mario Parties, Tennis, Kart, DDR, Golf, Baseball, BasketBall, etc) and not a one was a real Mario Bros game.  Luigi's Mansion's control setup was designed for circus freaks and it ended too fast.  All I want is one single Mario Brothers game based on multiplayer coop/counterop platforming racing staring both Mario brothers utilizing powerups.  The only machines I will accept in a Mario Bros game are air ships, karts, and bullet bill guns.  Waterguns and vacum cleaners need to be left in the janitor's closet; these are plumbers.  I don't want Nintendo to use their characters to sell us multiple games.  I don't want to buy a Donkey Kong game, a Luigi game, a Peach game, a Mario game, and a Wario game.  I want all those characters in one big game.  Next thing you know there will be seperate games for Zelda and Link.

[Nile Boogie]

Good stuff to mind munch.

[MrMojoRising]

"How can you say you want Nintendo to continue to water down one of their three biggest franchises. There have been way too many Mario Bros games on GameCube (Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, Mario Parties, Tennis, Kart, DDR, Golf, Baseball, BasketBall, etc) and not a one was a real Mario Bros game."

Ok, I can see how the sports titles and Mario Parties are watering down the franchise, but Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, and Mario Kart are all perfectly fine.  You're running with this "Nintendo's ruining Mario" thing a little too much.  Where's Ian?  I think even he would think you're over-reacting.  If Luigi can give us a unique game experience then I don't see a reason why he can't have his own games?  Mario Sunshine was as much of a Mario game as Mario games get, I never thought that the water pack bothered the gameplay experience at all.  Unless you just want Mario 64 remix, you're going to need something else thrown in there.  And as for Mario Kart...well it's freaking Mario Kart!  It's practically it's own franchise, and it's almost as recognizable as Mario himself and I think merely strengthens the Mario name.

[nemo_83]

Its not that they are ruining it, its just they are spreading it too thinly saturating their own market.  Mario Kart DD was awesome but its been done, and Sunshine was 64 again, bugs and all (no Luigi, useless Yoshi, no classic poweups), and Luigi's Mansion was a game that fell victim to the weight on its shoulders (and that alien control scheme).  The game would have been better off with the Ghost Busters liscence without the expectations Luigi brings to it.  You just can't make a Mario or Luigi game without the other and you can't make a Mario Bros game with essentially only one themed world.

I don't care about making Mario Bros super realistic.  Realism doesn't work well when the concept involves floating blocks and vacum tube transportation systems.  I just want the world to seem more alive and full.

Mario Kart should be a part of the next Mario Bros game.  Kind of like GTA Mushroom Kingdom.  

[KDR_11k]

Nemo: It's called "The NEW Super Mario Bros." and is aimed at the DS.  Might lack Wario but he was just a "sidequest", like Tatanga.

[Bill Aurion]

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Originally posted by: Dasmos

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Originally posted by: nemo_83

The idea of another Luigi Mansion = bad

Why, because there need to be fewer Mario Bros games and the Mario Bros need to be together in all Mario Bros games.

You have to be kidding right? Luigi's Mansion still remains as one of my favourite games on GCN......and i bought it at launch. I can't wait for a sequel or another game starring the green brother!!

Another Luigi's Mansion would be fantastic, thanks...

"Mario Kart should be a part of the next Mario Bros game. Kind of like GTA Mushroom Kingdom. "

And, uh, NO...

[Berto2K]

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Originally posted by: nemo_83
and Luigi's Mansion was a game that fell victim to the weight on its shoulders (and that alien control scheme).  The game would have been better off with the Ghost Busters liscence without the expectations Luigi brings to it.  You just can't make a Mario or Luigi game without the other and you can't make a Mario Bros game with essentially only one themed world.

Mario Kart should be a part of the next Mario Bros game.  Kind of like GTA Mushroom Kingdom.

You are the very first person I have come across that has any sort of problems with the control scheme in Luigi's Mansion.  There was nothing wrong with it, it made perfect sense, and worked flawlessly.  Lets not forget it was the first game by many of the development team.  Very good showing in most people's opinions for a rooie effort.

Mario Kart in Mario Brothers game? O_o  What would be the point of that exactly?  Kill off one of their most successful game series ever?  I could see maybe as a mini-game in a 3D Mario world, but in full...no freakin way.  Dumbest idea.  

[ShyGuy]

I had problems with the Luigi's mansion controls too, but I still enjoyed the game. I wish it could have been longer.  

[KDR_11k]

And there already are racing minigames in the 3d Marios.