Author Topic: Price of next-gen gaming? $1,710 (Read 11475 times)

Toruresu · « **on:** May 20, 2005, 11:13:48 AM »

Here's an article on CNN, read and discuss.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/19/technology/personaltech/e3_expensive_gaming/index.htm

"The bundle pack for Sony's PSP costs $250, as opposed to the $99 initial price for a standalone Game Boy Advance. PSP games? Those run $40 to $50, versus the $20-$30 range that has been the norm for other systems for years."

Nintendo going smaller and cheaper may be good after all.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1 on:** May 20, 2005, 02:46:55 PM »

Actually having a DS could be more expensive just based on the fact that there are so many fantastic looking games, 1st AND 3rd party, coming out...

Arbok · « **Reply #2 on:** May 20, 2005, 05:23:59 PM »

"If prices do go up, there's still a way to enjoy the next generation without digging deeper into your wallet."

Yes, buy a Revolution.

Anyway, the fact that he brought buying a HDTV into the equation was pretty, for a lack of better words, stupid. It's like saying that DVDs are expensive due to the fact that some support widescreen TVs...

nickmitch · « **Reply #3 on:** May 20, 2005, 06:07:00 PM »

Well, you'd eventually spend that much but it'll be well spread out and not all up front.
The article is over exagerating the facts.
Unless of cource you buy all 3 consoles when they're and get the full launch library, then you obviously have enough disposable income to do so.
A good article though; it does make you think a little.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 20, 2005, 08:21:04 PM »

ha, I'm not buying an HD tv for at least two more years. If I need HD to play REV games I can do it on my PC LCD.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #5 on:** May 20, 2005, 09:36:55 PM »

We won't see consoles costing 400 at launch, the people don't buy that. MS found that out the hard way by releasing the XBox for 480 in Europe, they had to drop the price to 300 two months later.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 20, 2005, 10:27:09 PM »

The PS3 and 360 will simply be too expensive for anyone who is not hardcore.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2005, 04:37:42 AM »

I doubt that, those companies aren't stupid. They know they need to price these things so they appeal to casual gamers since those are their primary userbase.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2005, 06:14:31 AM »

The problem is that these companies would love to see a profit off their hardware as well...Since both MS and Sony are adding all this extra entertainment system garbage, the price for hardware production increases...The question is, "How much are these companies willing to lose?"

Ymeegod · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2005, 01:58:38 PM »

For one, DS is $150 and the games are $30-$40 and the GBA games are actually $30-35.

darknight06 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2005, 02:23:36 PM »

I've seen $39 GBA games. Heck the Game Gear used to have $39 games.

Caliban · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2005, 03:40:16 PM »

I'm expecting that both PS3 and XBox360 start in the USA at $299.99 and the Rev at $249.99 . Well I sure hope so, that way at least Rev here in Canada will be $299.99 or less.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #12 on:** May 21, 2005, 10:41:58 PM »

For those who still complain about "rising" prices with DS games, you should realize that what you pay for that nowadays is MUCH less than you paid when the GBA was released. The dollar is worth almost nothing now. GBA games cost about half of their worldwide prices in the US, they obviously can't maintain that price. Nintendo and Sony are not US-based, they make less money when the dollar drops and as it is now the US demands games to be vastly cheaper than all other territories. Perhaps that's why NoE can get all those handheld games faster, they make almost twice the profit per unit sold. Perhaps you should brace yourself for prices that martch the international level, 70$ for a GC game and 50$ for a GBA game.

jasonditz · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2005, 06:35:37 AM »

The thing is, if you look at international exchange rates, a $450 PS3 launch would actually be about the same as the $300 PS2 launch was. The consumer might not see it that way, but from the perspective of the Japanese manufacturer US dollars just aren't worth what they once were, and since they're not manufacturing the consoles here they either need to raise the price or eat the cost difference. Microsoft in all liklihood will just eat the cost (since they've subsidized the hell out of their hardware from day one), Nintendo always manages to keep their costs to a minimum anyhow (and was actually somehow able to manufacture Cubes for less than the $99 they retail for). Sony's not in the same position, and I think the arrogance of being the leader for two generations combined with having the best visuals might lead them to believe they can justify the higher price.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2005, 06:59:15 AM »

Sony is arrogant but I doubt they'd trip up that badly. now, of course, they have plenty of time to set a good price because the PS3 will sell for 1k on eBay anyway. The X360 being older at that point and having enough time to pricedrop in the meantime will corner Sony even more. Okay, I guess Sony WILL have to raise the price a bit. Also, Goldman Sachs predicted the X360 will be "more expensive than expected".

Hey, with some luck the high prices combined with no real advances might make the casual gamers hold off on the next gen, killing sales and destroyig EA's bottom line...

jasonditz · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2005, 07:03:12 AM »

The thing is, look at how much money Microsoft lost last generation. They were finally just getting to near breakeven on a current basis, but they still couldn't wait to get to the nextgen.

They seem perfectly willing to just eat huge losses in the name of their eventual goal, which I'm assuming his something to do with putting us all in pulsating pink pods and harvesting our energy.

If they have to drop another billion dollars to keep the X360's price down, I don't think they have a problem with it.

Artimus · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2005, 07:40:34 AM »

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Originally posted by: Caliban
I'm expecting that both PS3 and XBox360 start in the USA at $299.99 and the Rev at $249.99 . Well I sure hope so, that way at least Rev here in Canada will be $299.99 or less.

$50 difference? Thats' IT? I expect the Rev to be at least $100 less than the others. Otherwise Nintendo isn't being cost effective at all, and the Rev won't stand a chance. I expect $200 for the Revolution at launch.

jasonditz · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2005, 07:48:19 AM »

My guess is the Xbox 360 starts at $299.99 with a higher priced version with Dvr capabilities at $499.99

The PS3 launches at $399.99

The Rev launches at $199.99

jasonditz · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2005, 07:52:44 AM »

another possibility is that the Rev launches at $249.99, but comes with two controllers and a game, whereas the others coming with only a single controller and no games

KDR_11k · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2005, 03:44:23 AM »

MS's Game Division is nowhere NEAR breakeven, they just had one positive quarter because of Halo 2 but they don't expect to break even before 2007, which is the year they EOL the old XBox.

stevey · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2005, 09:15:16 AM »

"I'm expecting that both PS3 and XBox360 start in the USA at $299.99 and the Rev at $249.99 . "

Well I'm expecting that both PS3 and 360 start in the USA at $499.99+100 for the delexe and the Rev at $199.99~.

"dollars just aren't worth what they once were"

Don't blam me I vote for kerry

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #21 on:** June 03, 2005, 09:10:27 AM »

In more recent news the predicted prices for the next generation systems seems to be very bloated...just like they were for the PSP.

Xbox 360 will likely be priced at the $350.00 to possible $375.00 range yeah its pretty high for an entertainment system, but it won't be a deal breaker.

Playstation 3 is supposedly going to retail around that price too. So expect a drop in the Xbox 360 price when the PS3 is launched.

Its looking very much like this generation it is going to be better to wait a few months before you buy your system anyway...perhaps wait a year.

I would suspect Nintendo is designing their hardware with a price point in mind. I am guessing it will be anywhere between $199.00 to $250.00 by the time the Revolution is launched I predict the competition to be pricing around $299.00 for Xbox 360 and PS3...but I also expect them to be losing money.

If Nintendo launches at $199.00 and offers a substantially different play experience then it will become the system of choice for a complimentary system. Xbox and PS3 will be very similar, but if you want something different buy Nintendo for a nice price. All your gaming needs will be settled.

That is my prediction anyway.

Uglydot · « **Reply #22 on:** June 03, 2005, 10:31:05 AM »

I seem to remember some N64 games being 70. Games have come down in recent years. Originally the Final Fantasies cost an astronomical amount by today's standards.

There goes KDR with the normal "The world is ending" posts". Bleh. Looking at actual exchange rates, the dollar doesn't appear to be almost nothing. In fact, it isn't doing too shabby.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #23 on:** June 03, 2005, 11:22:58 PM »

Yes, I remember old games being 120 DM but back then they had the cartridges as an excuse. That's roughly 60 Euros so unlike the US we never saw a pricedrop when the media got cheaper. Neither did Japan, AFAIK.

jasonditz · « **Reply #24 on:** June 04, 2005, 09:29:49 AM »

I never understood why games in Japan cost so much more. I mean, they'll drop $60 on a GBA game and think nothing of it. Do the game companies just charge a lot more there, or do the retailers insist on a higher markup?

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