Author Topic: The Next 1080 (Read 7112 times)

reverend_tod · « **on:** May 10, 2005, 09:32:29 PM »

Here's some ideas I was kicking around while I thought nastolgically about 1080 on N64:

First of all a realistic and believable mountain that you can snowboard every single inch of, the areas between runs, runs, ect. from top to bottom. There will be lifts to get up higher (a sequence which is obviously masking the laoding times and is therefor like ten seconds or less). Pressing start will bring up a map modeled after the ones available at most snowboard resorts so you can see what runs you are above, below ect. and what lifts take you where.

Then I thought "Ooh...make it in depth" like that cabin interface? That was cool--make it even better, have a strory. Have it a guy or girl move into a shanty by the resort (you should be free to customise the character all you want as far as sex, height, weight, color and a limited selection of clothes) and you have a pretty piss-poor snowboard, boots, bindings, ect. along with ugly out of fashion clothes. You have to earn money by doing things on the slopes and beating people, which in turn unlocks them, and as you do this you up your stats.

Has anybody ever seen the movie "Out Cold"? It's on Comedy Central a lot--if you've seen it, you'll know the sort of thing I'm thinking of

Another thing is once you unlock the other players you can play through stories with them to upgrade thier stats as well

And then the obvious; online play, but I don't think I need to explain this one.

Deguello · « **Reply #1 on:** May 10, 2005, 11:16:16 PM »

NST should do it again. They were able to take Left Field's code and mete out an enjoyable game. I would think if they did it fully, it would be REALLY great.

TheYoungerPlumber · « **Reply #2 on:** May 10, 2005, 11:36:34 PM »

You might want to check out Dark Summit for the GameCube (and other systems I guess). It's biggest draws are a plot/mission-based gameplay and a ski resort mountain.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2005, 04:23:58 AM »

You know I wonder about the 1080 franchise. It was smart for Nintendo to release it on the Nintendo 64 when they didn't have snowboarding games. It was kinda a sequel to Wave Race.

But now with SSX out there Nintendo should either drop the franchise or figure out away to make it stand out 100 billion times better.

Since SSX is coming to this generation of games, it may be best if Nintendo had 1080 Snowboarding as a launch game with the revolution. Wave Race would be good, but everyone knows how great that game is, and its the best in the genre. Kick off the Revolution with some less known game loving.

I think a great Nintendo launch lineup would be:

1080
Pilot Wings
Mario
Smash Bros.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2005, 05:15:49 AM »

But now with SSX out there Nintendo should either drop the franchise or figure out away to make it stand out 100 billion times better.

1080 is already 100 billion times better than SSX (I HATE SSX with a PASSION)

MaleficentOgre · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2005, 06:43:30 AM »

SSX3 was a much more solid game than avalanche. It's not even close. Tricky was also much better than avalanche. avalanche was ass. they need to bring back the old trick method. whenever I'm pulling off 3600000s with grabs and flips and stuff, the tricks are just too easy to pull off. The speed is good, they need to keep that and make bigger courses. I'd love a 30 min. speed course like ssx3 had with 1080's sense of speed. There also needs to be about 10000 more multiplayer courses and some more modes.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2005, 07:27:26 AM »

There's a need for 1080 even with SSX. SSX is goofy. It has over-the-top stunts that make no sense. I've never played Avalanche but the original 1080 was like a sim. It was trying to play like real snowboarding. It makes sense to have both options.

MaleficentOgre · « **Reply #7 on:** May 11, 2005, 08:42:28 AM »

Avalanche is not a sim.

theasylum · « **Reply #8 on:** May 11, 2005, 08:45:06 AM »

avalanche was so rushed i bought it from eb finished it in about 2 days and returned it. the engine was there and the sense of speed was great but it was way too short with not nearly enough levels, modes or challenge. I would love to see a 1080 done correctly on revolution but so many of this last generations games were rushed. how about bringing a sequel to EXCITBIKE? that game kicked serious ass on the 64. A good number of levels and great physics. SSX is over the top and isnt as absorbing as the first 1080 was on the 64. im not a fan of the unbelievable arcade stunts. Im loving all this talk about PILOTWINGS hopefully nintendo is listening!

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2005, 09:29:35 AM »

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Originally posted by: MaleficentOgre
Avalanche is not a sim.

It's more of a sim than Tony Hawk Snowboa...I mean SSX...

The Omen · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:12:04 AM »

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Originally posted by: MaleficentOgre
Avalanche is not a sim.

It's more of a sim than Tony Hawk Snowboa...I mean SSX...

Correct. And it's also a helluva lot less fun.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:25:44 AM »

Here's an idea: Release both games on Revolution and then everyone can be happy.

MaleficentOgre · « **Reply #12 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:32:45 AM »

the race is more sim, but the tricks are even less sim than ssx. It's just silly how easy it is to pull of tricks in avalanche.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #13 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:51:57 AM »

"the race is more sim, but the tricks are even less sim than ssx. It's just silly how easy it is to pull of tricks in avalanche."

Well that's the point. In the first game pulling off tricks took a fair bit of effort just like a snowboarding sim should. If Avalance had the same method of pulling off tricks then it would have been clearly a more realistic alternative to SSX. But instead it's seen more as an inferior SSX competitor.

It's like R: Racing Revolution. It tried to be more like Gran Turismo and bombed because Ridge Racer is supposed to be different than Gran Turismo. The two series are supposed to provide different experiences. It's the same thing with 1080 and SSX.

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:55:45 AM »

Damn it! I want WaveRace so bad...

It is definitely in my top 4 racing games (MarioKart, Burnout, WAVERACE, DiddyKongRacing (damn it, I love that game despite what anyone says)).

La_Mard · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11, 2005, 11:32:21 AM »

I hear ya Don'tHate

sorry, but my two cents is I'd rather have them focus completely on WR and forget about 1080. It seems like a lost cause now anyways.

Unless they made it outlandish (not in the goofiest of ways but goofy indeed), then there might be room for it. Just able to do outlandish things (not flashy crap like in SSX tho) in an over-the-top interactive course.....think Matrix snowboarding with lively courses and bears.....

..tons of bears.

I dunno.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #16 on:** May 11, 2005, 12:34:44 PM »

The Biggest problem with Avalanche was it came out when SSX 3 came out. You may not like the uber crazy tricks and the style of the game, but when you compared the scope, graphics, and playability of SSX 3 it completely surpassed Avalanche.

Also, I think most people enjoy the easier tricks and more crazy stunts of SSX then the complicated trick system of the original 1080.

That is why I think that 1080 has to be launched before SSX is out on Revolution, or at least at a time it is not competing with it directly.

Wave Race I would to have a sequel to that game. I thought the Gamecube game was deeper and more satisifying than the N64 version, but it was much harder to get into and the multiplayer suffered because of it.

I would hope that the newest wave race would have races with and without bouys.

More open water free stunt/trick races. Something like Tony Hawk on water with a time limit would be better for the stunt mode.

Last Enviromental interaction of the maps would be cool. Scripted Events, but with somewhat Random results. Like a mudslide into the water, but the size and exact area being slightly different.

La Mard Bears would definately be cool...and Sharks in Wave Race. Actually have animal interaction.

Imagine racing along side a group of dolphins jumping up and effecting the waves around you.

lastexit · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2005, 01:16:35 PM »

It is not some kind of universal truth that SSX is better than Avalanche. SSX is a very different game from Avalanche and there are many of us who greatly prefer the experience of 1080 avalanche to SSUX. To me, fun snowboarding in a video game comes from the speed, rushing through what feels like a real environment changing around me and a sense of difficulty and length in the races. 1080 has that. SSX is much cooler if you want to do rad tricks all day. SSX is probably a better two-player game for that reason but that's an entirely different comparison.

1080 Avalanche is one of my favorite Gamecube games and is a great example of why Nintendo makes better sh!t than almost everyone else. They get something about the FEEL of a video game that so many others can only imitate with IMAGE. This is their secret. SSX is hollow and soulless in comparison.

That said I think a new 1080 as launch title in late fall for Rev would be a very good idea.

The Omen · « **Reply #18 on:** May 11, 2005, 03:24:58 PM »

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To me, fun snowboarding in a video game comes from the speed, rushing through what feels like a real environment changing around me and a sense of difficulty and length in the races. 1080 has that. SSX is much cooler if you want to do rad tricks all day. SSX is probably a better two-player game for that reason but that's an entirely different comparison.

You do realize there are just straight up racing modes in SSX, right? Including a race down the full mountain which contains all 5 races combined together...it's pretty long.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #19 on:** May 11, 2005, 06:20:09 PM »

I greatly prefer Avalanche's sense of gravity and turning sensitivity for racing scenarios. Plus sharp, demanding turns in its track design.

lastexit · « **Reply #20 on:** May 12, 2005, 06:36:44 AM »

OMen -

Yeah, of course. You can tell they're not the focus of the game though, like they are some kind of afterthought to this killer trick system. That's all good but clearly 1080 is a game for people who like the actual snowboarding through mountains on a trail part of the game. pro666 has the right idea, the physics of 1080 are great.

Famicom · « **Reply #21 on:** May 12, 2005, 06:48:57 AM »

The problem with 1080 wasn't the system, it was the length. Tricks or not SSX3 provided far more bang for the buck in terms of value. I played it for several months, while after a couple of weeks with Avalanche it was shelfed for the most part (limited multiplayer had something to do with this as well compared to SSX3). I really liked Avalanche for what was there, and there certainly can be more than one snowboarding game on the market. But for the future I really hope they lengthen the tracks and provide a few more of them, with all the physics and interactivity Avalanche provided. Perhaps even bump up the number of snowboarders in a race from two to four to make things even more competitive.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #22 on:** May 12, 2005, 06:52:41 AM »

Well then it's all a matter of taste because I still play Avalanche to this day...

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #23 on:** May 12, 2005, 10:50:17 AM »

Well Bill. I have SSX3, and I never rented Avalanche because I couldn't find it in the stores to rent, and I didn't think I needed two snowboarding games. I will give it a try if I can find it to rent.

Your faith in the game is very convincing.

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Author Topic: The Next 1080 (Read 7112 times)