Author Topic: PSP will have the greatest console launch in History (Read 22929 times)

JDMJOSH · « **on:** March 21, 2005, 05:24:23 AM »

Think about it, 1 million units ready to go; and you all know they will sell in the blink of an eye. The only reason othe systems like the GCN, PS2, XBOX etc havent sold more on launch day was because they couldnt manufacture enough to meet demand. With other triple A titles to follow such as GT4: Mobile, GTA and many more, it looks like it will be a banner year for sony and one more nail in the coffin for the DS.

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2005, 05:37:50 AM »

So 1 million, that's great, it'll only be 1 million+ behind the DS

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2005, 05:47:08 AM »

You mean GT4 port and GTA port? Oh my, I am so excited...Nice launch too with all those sports and racing games...

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2005, 06:08:52 AM »

I will wait to get a PSP, reason 1) Sony is not a name that equals quality, so I will wait until later to get one to see what kind of problems the US version will have, and 2), the PSP has a totally crappy launch line up as far as I am concerned, not a damn game there is a system seller in my eyes, and nothing in the current forseeable future looks interesting.

JDMJOSH · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2005, 06:18:10 AM »

absolutley hillarious to see DS fanboys complain about a crappy launch for the PSP. If that's true, then the DS has beyond a shadow of a doubt the worst launch game wise in the history of video game consoles. God you guys are so dellusional

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2005, 06:22:04 AM »

Worst launch = PS2

And *I* find it "absolutely hilarious" that some (okay, more than some) people are so pathetic to go trolling on other forums...Don't you have anything better to do?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2005, 06:36:19 AM »

So, if that launch is so phenomenal, where's the killer app? You know, the Mario 64, the Halo...

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2005, 07:00:27 AM »

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absolutley hillarious to see DS fanboys complain about a crappy launch for the PSP. If that's true, then the DS has beyond a shadow of a doubt the worst launch game wise in the history of video game consoles. God you guys are so dellusional

Seems someone is trying to convince themselves they made the right Pre-order.

Noble~Feather · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2005, 10:50:47 AM »

Aren't you the same guy who said 'DS a major dissapointment'?

What the hell are you doing on a Nintendo board for? ... Trolling, maybe? <_<

darknight06 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2005, 11:03:45 AM »

The only good game on the system right now is Lumines. Past that right now I see nothing on the system even remotely worth it that I can't just get a superior PS2 or GC version of.

RickPowers · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2005, 11:28:19 AM »

The killer app for the PSP is arguably the system itself. No one will argue that it's DEAD SEXY, and a lot of people will pick it up for that reason alone.

As for the games, I've said this elsewhere, but the one I'm eagerly awaiting is Mercury. Especially if a tilt sensor is released shortly (which supposedly the game has been designed to use) ... that could be the "killer app" that the PSP needs.

Or it could be something else. A keyboard with software to turn the PSP into a PDA. An accessory to turn the PSP into a cell phone (also rumored). Any one of those things could push the PSP over the edge. True, it's not available just yet, but who says you have to have a killer app at launch? That's old-school thinking. These days, the launch of just about any product is practically guaranteed to sell-out, so why not save the killer app for when you need to boost sales later?

boggy b · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2005, 11:55:50 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
So, if that launch is so phenomenal, where's the killer app? You know, the Mario 64, the Halo...

Well Ridge Racers, Lumines and WipeOut Pure are all arguably killer apps, and even if you don't view them as such they're still three great games, well worth owning a system to play.

PSP's launch is undoubtably stronger than DS's. Best launch ever? Nah, that would be Dreamcast's. Worst? Hmmm, hard to tell. PS2 and DS are probably on the shortlist, though.

RickPowers · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:26:59 PM »

Worst launch lineup ever is easily the PS2, which went on to defy the odds. The PS2 only sold because of backwards compatibility and DVD playback. The PS2 went almost an entire YEAR before coming out with any really decent games.

clevelandst124 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 22, 2005, 12:54:09 AM »

Rick~The killer app for the PSP is arguably the system itself. No one will argue that it's DEAD SEXY, and a lot of people will pick it up for that reason alone.

A do everything gadget is not sexy. It's a geek toy. If you like the games fine but I just don't see how anybody can buy the PSP for being a multimedia machine. If the PSP becomes a cell phone, it'll be like going back in time when we had huge cell phones. Not withstanding that you will probably get a free cell phone if you sign up for cell service with a company.

If a keyboard turns the PSP into a PDA, it will make it less portable thus defeating the purpose. I think everyone would agree the DS has more potential in being a pda because of the touch screen. A keyboard would make the PSP more like a badly designed labtop.

UMD movies are useless. Movies on memory stick are not good either. You'll need to get the 1 GB card ($120) and then you can have one movie with you at all times. A portable DVD player ($100) comes with a nicer 7" LCD screen and uses your entire DVD library.

A PSP is pointless as an MP3 player as well. You'll need another 1 GB card which will put you on the low end of the MP3 market. Then are you really going to strap a PSP to your waiste and go running or lift weights? If I was going to sit there and listen to music I would have it playing on a static player.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2005, 01:18:00 AM »

Boggy b: "Killer app" is two tiers above "good game". A killer app is a game that creates a huge surge in console sales and almost everyone buys. Ridge Racers, Lumines, Wipeout... None of these will have an impact comparable to Halo. A killer app must be a great game with fresh ideas (say what you want but Halo and Mario 64 were definitely different) that resonates with a huge audience. Ridge Racers and Wipeout are simple sequels and few people will buy a system for games they can get on other systems as well. Lumines is fresh and great but I have my doubts about its market appeal and there's just no way Sony is going to push a 2d puzzle game as the killer app for their "super-powerful 3d handheld".

But then again Sony doesn't need a killer app until much later since the system will sell on hype alone and the hype will increase as a result of its scarcity, only when the hype fades away they need good games. I mean, that worked for the PS2, right? No doubt they can pull that off against Nintendo or Sega but if that's their strategy for the PS3 as well I see them losing their heads to Microsoft, the master of lies.

But whether the system sells or not isn't the deciding factor for the launch quality. We are gamers, what we want is games and currently I don't see the PSP fighting in that arena any better than the DS.

Pale · « **Reply #15 on:** March 22, 2005, 03:55:56 AM »

My definition of killer app is that it is a single game that is easily worth its cost and the cost of the system to play it on.

Are any of the PSP launch titles worth 250 bucks? Doubtful.

Is the PSP without any games worth 200 bucks? Some may say yes.

boggy b · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2005, 07:02:24 AM »

WipeOut not a killer app? You sure about that? It single-handidly sold the PS1 in the UK.

Savior · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2005, 07:13:59 AM »

A do everything gadget is not sexy

yes it is. Just ask Apple.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #18 on:** March 22, 2005, 09:07:34 AM »

boggy b: But that was the first game. Back then it was new. I don't see any major changes from Wipeout to Wipeout Pure. Many a game that is a sequel to a killer app isn't a killer app itself. None of the subsequent Wipeout games have been killer apps, have they?

Savior: Do everything? I don't remember Apple's computers selling well and the iPod is far from do-everything. The N-Gage, on the other hand...

SgtShiversBen · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2005, 09:23:43 AM »

Exactly, these things will play out in due time. Like for the original GameBoy, it didn't sell well until Pokemon debuted and the rest is history. It might do the same for the DS, but likely it won't. I think the killer ap for the DS might very well be Animal Crossing or something of that nature where it's a "do everything in a game" game. The killer ap for the PSP on the other hand might be a sequel. I'm talking about Madden. If it lives up to the way that people are expecting (being like the PlayStation 2 versions) then it might be a runaway hit. Now that I think of it though, it woudln't warrent a 250$ purchase either. Hmmm...I don't know then. I don't think we'll see killer apps till the prices go down. With the DS, that'll be soon, but as the PS2 has shown Sony's price drops, it won't be till around 2010 when the PSP is in the 100$ range.

Savior · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2005, 10:04:17 AM »

yeah but the iPod crowd is what Sony is going after, thats why its "So sexy" making geeky toys look cool aesthetically is what has sold the iPod and its what Sony is selling...

RickPowers · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2005, 11:32:55 AM »

"But that was the first game. Back then it was new. I don't see any major changes from Wipeout to Wipeout Pure."

Actually, the first Wipeout was great, and the series started going downhill. They made a LOT of major changes, most of them not for the better. As should be clear from the name, Wipeout PURE is a return to the previous style that so many people loved. It's been rated higher than Ridge Racer, higher than Need for Speed Rivals, and right now, is the highest rated game on the system, IIRC. And yes, some people would consider it a system seller.

clevelandst124 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2005, 12:36:24 PM »

The iPod isn't sexy either. What it is, is a really great mp3 player that revolutionized the industry. When I first got an mp3 player, it held about 8 songs at a crappy quality and cost $100. Then iPod comes along with mp3 players that file swap, hold up to 10,000 songs, and have great quality and cost about $250.
However, the iPod is starting to lose market share. That's always the story with Apple. Come up with a great idea, let others in the industry catch up, and end in the crapper.

That's my biggest problem with the PSP. It wants to be a do everything. But it does everything poorly. It doesn't want to be great at games. It wants to poorly replicate the home console experience. PSP will sell because of the cool factor but it better show up with some great games because the cool factor wears off after a couple of months.

Pale · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2005, 02:08:01 PM »

Yeah...if I do ever end up with a PSP I just can't imagine actually having to decide between two similar versions of a game when one is for a home console and the other for a portable. I don't know what I'd pick....and in this sense I think Sony will eventually start competing with themselves and MS and Nintendo. I think it would be good for them to do a lot of managment of the libraries. Devs may not like it but its important to their success. Having a new version of GT launch on both systems at the same time isn't necessarily a good idea.

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2005, 03:12:40 PM »

I don't know about you, but the Ipod is sexy. It's sleek, small, pearl white with a metallic back. It's a beautiful, powerful piece of hardware.

The PSP is sexy, and powerful. Is it functional though? Not as far as I can tell.

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