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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2005, 08:50:27 PM »
(all other fighters are Street Fighter II rehashed, Mortal Kombat is a cheap SF clone with the gore gimmick)

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« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2005, 11:22:31 PM »
You can't say all fighters are Street Fighter 2 rehashes. It just isn't fair.

The fact that it defined the genre, doesn't mean that all games are based entirely on it.

It's like saying Zelda is the basest for all adventure games.
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RE:What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2005, 02:11:19 AM »
You know what going from a hardcore gamer to a casual gamer in recent years the thing I want most in the next gen is more time.

I want more time to be able to play video games but alas as the years roll by I find myself with more and more commitments and I just dont have time to sit down and finish the epics that I so used to enjoy. Ive been debating whether or not to get a ds and/or resident evil 4 but I really cant be too distracted from what Im currently doing so I constantly keep putting it off telling myself just wait for the holidays.

Do you think developers will eventually have to address this issue? I hope not, I cant think of anything worse than finishing a really great game you wish would just go on forever.
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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2005, 07:05:57 AM »
i remember when i first fell in love with nintendo...they jsut did everything better than the competition...now it seems they skip out on alot of things. Its sort of annoying.

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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2005, 07:35:47 AM »
I think some of these posts are humorous doom and gloom posts.

"Remember when Nintendo rocked? And did everything right?"  
"How about that classic Nintendo feel to games, those old games were special."

Well, I remember those games and that feeling...and I have to tell you Nintendo is still doing things that special Nintendo way...the problem is some of us have grown up and grown away from desiring traditional Nintendo values.  We have grown into the excitement of more mature, adult games...and darker visions and story focused games.

Nintendo has always been about games.  The stories they create are there to create a world for the game, not the game is there for the story like many other games.

Nintendo is bringing old classic arcade game feel back with games like:
Wario Ware
Yoshi's Touch and Go
Mario DS's Mini Games
Mario Party Series

They are the only system really promoting fun pickup and play repetitive arcade games.  These are always fun, always addictive, but have been lost to big budget, epic story games.

Nintendo is keeping 2D gaming alive without sacrificing exploring the further depths of 3D gaming.

Nintendo continues to take risks innovating new ways of playing games with Nintendogs and ElectroPlankton and the DS in general.

If anything Nintendo has gotten bolder and more innovative now then back in the NES and SNES days.  Nintendo is allowing other developers to try their hands at key franchises.  Nintendo is exploring online gaming, spreading into new markets of gaming, and such.

Even now Nintendo is even gearing up to make animated movies, branching into a whole new market.  

I love Nintendo more now than I did when I was a kid, because Nintendo is the ONLY company that is innovating, yet still keeping its promises to my childhood.  I know I can continue to share Nintendo games with my children when I have them.  I know that I can trust Nintendo and share video games as a family experience.

Sony and Microsoft I can't trust.  Every year, more and more games just become trash.  The same basic gameplay with more violence, sex, adult story for really no reason.  They don't improve the game experience, and usually the game experience sucks anyway.

So what I want is Nintendo to continue to create a system I can share with my family.  To continue to make games that appeal to all audiences and bring new fun experiences for me.  I want Nintendo to continue to innovate in fresh new ways.


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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2005, 10:51:25 AM »
Well that's all nice and heart-warming and such but what gamers really want in the next Nintendo system is:
1. Classic old shool gaming
2. New games that give you that same feel
3. Innovative new twists on old games
4. NEW innovative games
5. A nice slice of key-lime pie
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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2005, 11:02:33 AM »
What gamers want in a Nintendo system is easy.

Gamers want a console maker that knows what the hell they're doing.

Nintendo on the Cube was like a senile old man.  They just kept f*cking up really simple stuff and misinterpreting what the fans wanted.  I can deal with poor third party support provided that Nintendo is at least being competent.  If there are any problems I want it to be due to factors beyond Nintendo's control.  Last gen I felt that most of problems were Nintendo's fault since they were so STUNNED all of the time.

Sony's the market leader because Sega and Nintendo screwed up and they didn't.  They aren't exceptional, they're just competent.  The Xbox in the end didn't do that much better than the Cube but the Xbox has a stronger brand image because Microsoft proved to be pretty on the ball and when they made a mistake they learned from it.  Nintendo makes dumb mistakes that anyone could avoid a mile away and never learns from them.  That's why they have a negative image and that's why their own fans are constantly b!tching them out.

I just want Nintendo to stop doing stupid sh!t.  When something goes wrong I want to be as surprised as Nintendo, instead of calling it six months before it happens.

Be competent.  That's all I ask.

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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2005, 11:29:36 AM »
I want them to improve their pretty ridiculous presence in Europe.  

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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2005, 11:48:09 AM »
Ian Sane:  I haven't upset with any Nintendo published Gamecube game.  Nor was I upset with the Nintendo 64.  I think both systems have become the system to own for party games, and multiplayer...even without online Nintendo makes great multiplayer systems.  So I don't agree with you about Nintendo not being competent as a hardware and software.

However, I understand that is just my personal taste.  Like I mentioned in the above post I think many peoples tastes in games have slightly changed, and they love Nintendo, but at the same time wish they would change with them.  However, if Nintendo changes too drastically they cease to be Nintendo.

I don't Nintendo Nintendo to create a Halo killer or Grand Theft Auto killer for Revolution.  In fact, if they did I would be screaming bloody murder because that isn't Nintendo.


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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2005, 08:20:14 PM »
However if they got someone else to make it. Then it'll be there, be exclusive and Nintendo can still be Nintendo.
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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #60 on: June 24, 2005, 08:26:27 PM »
Most companies create subcompanies that operate on a different brand name when they don't want a game to be made under their own label for some reason (see also ValuSoft/THQ, Ultra/Konami and Game Developer Studios/Square-Enix).

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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2005, 05:39:12 AM »
From a recent EGM interview:

Reggie:  "So absolutely, for Revolution you will see all of our franchises, plus, we've gone on record to say that we are aggressively working on a number of new franchises. And that is something that has been a criticism of the past, you know, "Folks, are you milking Mario and doing too many Mario-type games?" We are hard at work at new franchises and we believe that's going to be critical to the launch of Revolution."  
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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2005, 07:41:17 AM »
Let's hope NCL management doesn't decide to scrap those new franchises and turn the games into Mario games instead.

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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #63 on: June 25, 2005, 10:04:56 AM »
honestly i think the multiplayer experience was better on n64 than it was on gamecube...althopugh i was playing four sowrds last night with Kamek and it kicked ass. Still, Nintendo needed a game that would satisfy the needs goldeneye did. Smash bros came close...but i remember Rare gfames..and i remember i loved everyone of their even half assed multi player modes.

as far as creating a halo killer or a gta killer....they should at least create some awesome fps experience that goes online and kicks all sorts of ass....as far as gta..Nintendo shouldnt be the only system that doesn't have it...itrs a multi platform game...yet for some reason its not on a nintendo system? Or perhaps maybe Nintendo should convince dma to make an updated Body Harvest
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RE:What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2005, 12:55:44 PM »
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I don't Nintendo Nintendo to create a Halo killer or Grand Theft Auto killer for Revolution.  In fact, if they did I would be screaming bloody murder because that isn't Nintendo.



They should create a GTA/Halo killer.  It should be one game.  Combat based like Halo, but totaly interactive nonlinear sandbox level design like GTA.  They should keep all the weapons and vehicles real world too so that any special items are explained in the story.  I don't have a problem with alien and scifi stuff, but when Perfect Dark came out on the 64 I couldn't get my friends to play it because of the spaced out themes and they loved Goldeneye more than I did.
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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #65 on: June 25, 2005, 09:01:45 PM »
Combat based like Halo, but totaly interactive nonlinear sandbox level design like GTA

Far Cry?
There's a limit to how much freedom you can add if you want it combat centric. Sure you could make a large map full of enemies and give the player a big gun but exactly how many options does that give him? Personally I'd prefer a game where you can advance without combat if you choose so. You can't open up a shop or build a factory in GTA. Compare that to, say, X2.
You sound a lot like someone who tries to clone a game without understanding why fans love the game so much. That will end in a mediocre clone at best.

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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #66 on: June 25, 2005, 09:28:04 PM »
"Personally I'd prefer a game where you can advance without combat if you choose so. You can't open up a shop or build a factory in GTA."

That would be ideal.  GTA gets a lot of flack for being a crime simulator.  But a similar game that allows people to lead legitimate lives would be more of a life simulator.  That way Nintendo can have a game that still has the open-ended gameplay but doesn't comprimise Nintendo's idealogy for shock value.

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« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2005, 06:58:10 AM »
But that would basically be an upgraded version of the Sims games. And hasn't Nintendo gotten as close enough to that as they can without blatantly ripping it off with Animal Crossing?

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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2005, 08:57:16 AM »
Sims?!? What would that have to do with the Sims? More like a tycoon game in third person view and the option to get rid of the competition with your own hands. Or maybe SimAmericanDream.

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« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2005, 10:29:47 AM »
That sounds intriguing. Having a legit shop but also having some sort of crime life to it. Maybe the game could have you own a restaurant and the mafia eats there or something and you try to sabatoge other restaurants.
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« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2005, 03:15:30 AM »
That sounds more and more like Pizza Connection... Since PC already involves your character we could slow down its time and make the player a guy who moves around in the city.

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« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2005, 06:18:07 AM »
my brother and i once envisioned a game called Freelance where you could pretty much do anythng inside one massively interactive world. the name came from the idea that you start as a poor freelance photographer with a crummy disposable camera and a dream to rise to the top. by being at the right places at the right time, you could capture great action photos of car accidents, train wrecks, fires, gunfights, etc. and basically you could create any of these accidents  (i.e. oil slick in the road leads to car crash which leads to massive fire) and be the first photographer there. as you gain money, you cna buy new equipment, including video cameras, cars, zoom lenses, remote cameras (throw it high up on the corner of an intersection where you know you're gang is going to steal a silicon shipment, then collect the footage later)

the cool part is that you could live a straight edge life as a reporter/photographer, buy a motorcycle and join a paparazzi motorcade, sneak up on celebrities' homes(ala splinter cell) for the perfect sunbathing shot. Or you could get involved with organized crime and milk your money off of footage of their heists (which you could no-doubt take part in).

and if you think photography is fagnacious, you can quit your job at any time... but then you're unemployed and will need to make some money, so you might want to approach a mob boss and see what he needs. Hitmen can make a good living in the big city, but  you need to plan your attacks properly. You can't always walk up and stab somebody (especially in his own home; too much blood on the carpet). sometimes you need to run a little recon to see if you can sneak into his home and just snap his neck, or maybe hide in his garage until he comes home from work and kill him before he gets in the house, then use his car to drive to the city park and hide his body in the woods. Or maybe a local pig farmer would be willing to help you out.

there are countless options and directions. you can be a hitman, cab driver, cop, delivery truck driver (careful not to get robbed), or just your average joe-criminal. Naturally, the better you become at your trade, the nicer apartment you can afford and the more political power you have. The goal is to control the city, whether by campaigning for mayor or just having enough money to pay the right people to look the other way.

finally, there would be a pretty expansive forest area for a paintball/outdoor lasertag course, which would provide for everyone's FPS mini-game fix, which would of course be online compatable. hell, the initial vision was to have the whole game online, but i think thats a little more than a stretch.

so, that was our game we designed shortly after spending all night playing a bootleg copy of GTA 2 on our cpu. maybe too much violence for a nintendo game, but i'll be damned if that wouldn't be better than any GTA out there now (although looking at it now, it seeems like the only difference between our own game and rockstar's is that we're not all about mindless murder; its more career-focused. you see greater results by planning out everything before hand and getting the perfect shot for the front page story. oh and one last detail kinda ripped from pokemon: everyone has a rival , an eddie brock who thinks you're up to something and wants to find out how you just happen to be at every major newstory right when it happens. If you're not careful, he might catch you as you're changing back into your civilian clothes after a big heist, or he could even stalk your movements if you aren't mindful of your surroundings. taking back alleyways and complex routes could get him off your back, but a pivotal point in the game is when he snaps a super-incriminating shot of you and you have to decide whether to play into his wishes or call up a friend to have your rival erm... disposed of. (be a man, do it yourself; just don't leave much evidence of foul play)

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« Reply #72 on: June 27, 2005, 09:23:49 AM »
I'd focus a bit more with that game, less crime simulation, more photography (since those elements are too different from each other). Crime simulations are a dime a dozen, photographer sims with freeform gameplay are rare, not to say nonexistent. Allow the player to hire a hitman but not partake in that activity himself. Perhaps allow him to become a publisher as well, perhaps even go as far as allowing propaganda (risky if your writing staff isn' skilled enough at hiding it, might trigger a lawsuit). If crime isn't enough let him be a reporter down in Baghdad or something (if war is too much perhaps a larger city in a less violent third world nation*). Sure, that's not USA so it'll sell worse than a game that plays in the US but Baghdad is a much more interesting place for that. Less law enforcement, more criminal activity, major factions with a goal and probably no big newspapers yet.

*= Maybe I'm thinking of that because I'm reading Hunter S. Thompson's "The Rum Diary" which is about a reporter in Puerto Rico.

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RE:What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #73 on: July 06, 2005, 11:55:31 PM »
Here's what revolution REALLY needs:

THIRD PARTY SUPPORT


After getting amazing new franchises on the PS2 (Chapmions of Norrath, God of war, and countless others)  and the mainstay franchises of yesteryear (Castle vania, megaman, tekken, etc) and great new ones (NFS UG2, Burnout 3, GTA, GTA VC, GTA SA, etc)  Nintendo has a lot of catching up to do if they ever hope to get back on top, if they pull another N64 or a "Sega", way back in the day when Sega released their Sega-CD it bombed hugely sold poorly and had no 3rd party support hardly at all, and thats definitely partly why Sega eventually got killed by their own failure with Saturn and Dreamcast because of their inability to support their hardware and get game devleopers making games for them.  They didn't understand  games sell systems back then, and they still didn't with Saturn and dreamcast, they tried to first party it to the bank and they got screwed.

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RE: What gamers want in the next Nintendo system
« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2005, 07:46:05 AM »
As long as they stay true to what they recently said then the only thing I see Revolution needs is more innovation.
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