Author Topic: psp is online now wheres nintendos plan (Read 39968 times)

Darkheart · « **on:** February 08, 2005, 09:58:16 AM »

Source: http://psp.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=1061

Aparrently PsP will have 3 count them 3 online launch titles

-Gretzky NHL

-NBA (Untitled)

-MLB (Untitled)

Granted they are all sports games, but Nintendo is ticking me off, they are either really unprepared or they are just getting cocky with their high and almighty attitude. They better do something soon to counter react or Nintendo is going to blow incredible sales that they could potentially get.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2005, 10:01:15 AM »

Paying for handheld online? Ahahaha...Just be patient, wee one...

Ian Sane · « **Reply #2 on:** February 08, 2005, 10:56:04 AM »

Online titles at launch? That's very impressive and this is on top of a launch lineup that just KILLS the DS current lineup. Nintendo doesn't just have to show us their online plans they need to do a LOT to combat the PSP. This thing is looking like a serious threat and so far Nintendo has responded with their worst portable showing yet. The DS is capable of so much but it isn't going to mean anything if Nintendo doesn't make use of that potential soon. The cockiness and overconfidence of the N64 is showing in the DS.

Nintendo has to reveal its online plans for the DS at E3. With the Cube Nintendo delayed the announcement of their online plans forever and in the end they just plain didn't have any. If the DS online plans are delayed then everyone is going to assume that, much like with the Cube, Nintendo just doesn't have any. Nintendo has created this image of being offline. If they plan on going online they have to give us the scoop soon or they'll miss out. Online is an essential feature now. If they look at all like they have cold feet third parties aren't going to give them a chance and gamers who want to go online are going to buy the competing systems. Nintendo's been telling us to wait for them to go online for too long now. Nobody is going to wait anymore.

If there are no DS online plans revealed at E3 I'm going to take that to mean that the DS will not go online at all because it won't if Nintendo is wishy-washy about it.

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2005, 11:28:27 AM »

Ian you really need to tone down your optimism pal</sarcasm>

I mean seriously, everyday you come in and start talking gloom and doom for nintendo.

PSP isn't launching for over a month and already you're talking like its already sold 10 times bettern than the DS.

Darkheart · « **Reply #4 on:** February 08, 2005, 11:52:13 AM »

sorry guys but im siding with ian on this one. Nintendo is not doing their best in this war, Nintendo has more than a fair chance to win the current war and they aren't doing diddly squat. You know they might have 10 games waitin at E3 this year and an online plan. But with no word on it I am not too sure how much damage they are taking. Psp launches in less than 2 months, and Nintendo has retaliated with nothing. PSP is saying the following

Psp: Im a multimedia machine
DS: Meh no one wants that stuff we are all gaming baby, but if you want multimedia you can use the practically nonexistant no release date play yan.

Psp: I sport over 25 launch titles
Ds: I have like 10 titles over a 3 month period But you need to buy me cuz i have Mario 64 woot woot

Psp: I have 3 games online available at launch.......you have to pay for them but my online plan is there if you want it
Ds: I have tons of rumors of me going online and many say soon but I am still shaky and have no clue when or if its coming.......

Im not bashing on Nintendo I am just saying that if they want to play the secret card factor, they need to at least say that on such and such day nintendo is going to say something that will rock your world, so stay with us you wont want to miss it.

~Darkheart~

vudu · « **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:00:14 PM »

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Psp: I sport over 25 launch titles
Ds: I have like 10 titles over a 3 month period But you need to buy me cuz i have Mario 64 woot woot

Gamesarefun.com was nice enough to put together a list of confirmed US DS and PSP launch titles. You can find it here.

You'll notice that the DS has 91 confirmed games and the PSP has 71. And that's not counting Pokemon Diamond/Pearl or Super Princess Peach because they haven't been officially announced for the US. PSP is Th3 D00m3d!!1

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Ian you really need to tone down your optimism pal</sarcasm>
I mean seriously, everyday you come in and start talking gloom and doom for nintendo.

I almost have to agree here. Ian's been a great forumer (is that a word) but he's been really down on on Nintendo lately. It makes me wonder if he's a Sony/MS fanboy who has been hanging around for years so we would drop our guard and he could blindside us with "Nintendo is going down the drain". Enjoy the games, forget about the business.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:12:32 PM »

"It makes me wonder if he's a Sony/MS fanboy who has been hanging around for years so we would drop our guard and he could blindside us with 'Nintendo is going down the drain'."

Any pessimism I've shown towards Nintendo lately is because I'm such a big fan of Nintendo and don't want them to fail. So therefore if to me it looks like they're heading for disaster I'm going to offer my opinion on it. I don't want the PSP to beat the DS I just think it very likely might so therefore Nintendo should prepare for it.

Nintendo's recent actions and rumoured plans for the future worry me so I'm expressing my concern. I'm not a pessimist I'm a realist.

Darkheart · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:15:47 PM »

preach it ian preach it

Savior · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:24:28 PM »

Well Im not sure all those 25 games will be available at launch day... or launch month/window like the DS.. but stilll im suprised they jumped the gun on this... and No Bill i dont think you have to pay to play online on the PSP...

Im hoping Nintendo suprises all of us and announces their online pla (Which is coming) by March 1st.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:42:07 PM »

"I'm not a pessimist I'm a realist."

You know that's not helping your case any. They all say that.

If I cared about online I'd probably agree with you though.

Darkheart · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:52:27 PM »

Well i stand corrected they have a fourth online launch game called Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade .......Its their first online rpg they plan to have on launch day.

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:56:35 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane

Nintendo has to reveal its online plans for the DS at E3.

More like next week. E3's too far away, the PSP will have been onrine in the US for two months by then. =\

SgtShiversBen · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:56:35 PM »

I'm with Paladin on this one. I don't really care about online anymore. Can't use it on a plane, on a road trip would be rubbish, and at school I just sleep or work. So it doesn't really interest me. At home it'd be great, but that's what computers are for.

Even though this is I guess good for the people who spend 549$ on a PORTABLE system, in the end...is it really worth it when that's half the price of a good laptop (more than half for my kickass little Avery) and those let you play games online too. BF1942.

Nintendo's plan I hope is better. I don't want to have to wait there for like 10 minutes just so I can join a game and hear them call me "U CAMPER!! ROXORS IS THE BEST!! 1337!!!" I just want to sit on a bus or maybe in a plane terminal and play a nice game of Yoshi's blocks (don't remember the name from SM64DS) or Puyo Pop.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:58:33 PM »

yea ian, change your opinion or we'll bash your for it [/sarcasm]
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seriously now, i do fret to read Ian's posts, but that's merely because they are fairly accurate observations of the state of the industry and Nintendo's quirky behavior. I am afraid of the PSP. My friend (who i thought stopped playin games years ago) is all excited about the PSP. So we know Sony will get at least one sale stateside now.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2005, 01:19:09 PM »

"More like next week. E3's too far away, the PSP will have been onrine in the US for two months by then."

Well obviously sooner is better then later but I think E3 wouldn't be too late. Realistically Nintendo might not have had any clue that Sony was going to be online at launch and thus has to push things foward. So we can give them some slack. I guess you could say that E3 is the latest they can announce plans but in general I don't think two months is that big of a deal. I just picked E3 because that's when people expect major announcements to be made. Pre-E3 people will assume that Nintendo is waiting for E3. But after E3 there's no solid point to wait for so people will start assuming the worst.

Savior · « **Reply #15 on:** February 08, 2005, 01:33:38 PM »

I think sooner the better just to hurt the PSP launch....

mantidor · « **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2005, 01:43:22 PM »

online is way overated, of course in an internet forum most people just cant get that simple fact.

Darkheart · « **Reply #17 on:** February 08, 2005, 01:59:00 PM »

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online is way overated, of course in an internet forum most people just cant get that simple fact.

I never thought online was such a huge aspect of gaming as much as I do now. Back in the day when online gaming was just coming out, I thought nothing of it because I always had an aresanal of buddies to come over and play a game. Now being in college and have virtually no time to sit down and play a console game I find my DS to be my only realistic gaming console on the go. All of my buddies have migrated to different colleges leavin me with my little brother whos a die hard x box live fan (leaving no room for peeps who want to play ds) ........ Therefore if Ninty gives me online I actually can play multiplayer games and not feel so alone in the gaming world lol. I mean theres a million Ds's sold and yet theres no one on my campus that has one or at least brings it to school. Where are they where are they.....

I hope this gives you an idea of why I and many other gamers I know want the DS online.

~DarkHeart~

mantidor · « **Reply #18 on:** February 08, 2005, 02:31:40 PM »

Im not saying that you, or for that matter, all of us here dont want online, we do, of course! we enjoy it, (maybe its more like you, I have been bored to death with online gaming), but there are millions of people out there without internet but with a tV and the income to buy a console, thats why Nintendo said "gamers dont want online", they want to please us as much as they can, but they also want all those "offline" people (which are for now the majority) to play games, the want your mom and dad and your grandparents to enjoy their games, and thats what the whole DS, revolution and their supposed "k¡ddie" games are about, a game like resident evil would discourage someone like my teachers to play games, but not Pikmin or Mario Party.

All this sounds almost utopian, but thats Nintendo's philosophy, or at least what Ive come to understand, and I honestly like it, they are here to make games, they arent trying to make their operating system to control every electronic device in your house (microsoft) and they dont want every single electronic device in your house to be made by them (sony). The bad part is that most gaming related information comes from the internet and avid internet users, and that explains why Ninty public image is so deteriorated.

jarob · « **Reply #19 on:** February 08, 2005, 02:56:14 PM »

There are many free wi-fi spots around the country. You will not only be playing online at home. Just look at Philadelphia. WiFi will be city wide.

Savior · « **Reply #20 on:** February 08, 2005, 03:06:47 PM »

online is way overated, of course in an internet forum most people just cant get that simple fact.

Maybe on handhelds... On Consoles its a way of life now. You might not like it but the majority does.

jarob · « **Reply #21 on:** February 08, 2005, 03:16:52 PM »

Online is the future. Many people prefer to play other people in games and there are times when 'buddies' can not all get to a location. I like playing single player games, but when you get a chance to play another human, victory is a great feeling.

People are social creatures, and online playing will grow exponentially because of this fact.

Mario · « **Reply #22 on:** February 08, 2005, 04:50:49 PM »

I never thought Sony would beat Nintendo to online portable gaming.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #23 on:** February 08, 2005, 05:03:59 PM »

Actually, there will be 5 (yeah 5) online launch titles. ATV Offroad Fury will be online for 4 players and get this, Twisted Metal (!) will be online for 6 players! <----- killer app

Now if they announce Wipeout Pure is online... Well 8 player Mario Kart and 16 player Hunters better hurry up cause Twisted Metal and Wipeout online kill the DS's whole lineup.

heinous_anus · « **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2005, 08:53:42 PM »

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Originally posted by: mantidor
Im not saying that you, or for that matter, all of us here dont want online, we do, of course! we enjoy it, (maybe its more like you, I have been bored to death with online gaming), but there are millions of people out there without internet but with a tV and the income to buy a console, thats why Nintendo said "gamers dont want online", they want to please us as much as they can, but they also want all those "offline" people (which are for now the majority) to play games, the want your mom and dad and your grandparents to enjoy their games, and thats what the whole DS, revolution and their supposed "k¡ddie" games are about, a game like resident evil would discourage someone like my teachers to play games, but not Pikmin or Mario Party.

All this sounds almost utopian, but thats Nintendo's philosophy, or at least what Ive come to understand, and I honestly like it, they are here to make games, they arent trying to make their operating system to control every electronic device in your house (microsoft) and they dont want every single electronic device in your house to be made by them (sony). The bad part is that most gaming related information comes from the internet and avid internet users, and that explains why Ninty public image is so deteriorated.

I totally see your point, and I think a lot of Nintendo fans (myself included) think the same way. I like the utopian idea that you talk about, as well. Nintendo has explicitly stated in the past that they are a gaming company first and last, and that will always take supreme priority over anything else.

At the same time, it doesn't hurt to include features like "online play" with your systems just to be able to say that you have it. I still don't think, even with this next batch of consoles, that online play is integral to the gaming experience (it may very well never be), but, at the same time, not offering such a service, or not touting/supporting such a service could prove very costly.

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