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RE: Star Fox Assault
« Reply #150 on: February 21, 2005, 11:39:57 AM »
i liked the onrails tank missions

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RE: Star Fox Assault
« Reply #151 on: February 23, 2005, 01:05:34 AM »
You know, usually when you drive a TANK they always go slow.

Though the Arwing does feel slow, probably so it doesnt move too quickly on all range stages. Also, it seems rather odd for your allies to cry for your help when all you have is a wimpy blaster that takes awhile to charge, and your ally AI is next to useless in helping the others.
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« Reply #152 on: February 23, 2005, 04:17:39 AM »
I don't even really see a point in keeping your teammates if you don't have alternate paths.  Or do you need them to complete the mission?
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« Reply #153 on: February 23, 2005, 04:50:43 AM »
Did the guy who did the PGC review not notice the whole multiplayer section of the game? I mean, I can understand... no... no I can't. Seems like its a pretty big part of this game. Given the lateness of the review you'd think he'd write something about it.

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« Reply #154 on: February 23, 2005, 05:20:17 AM »
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I don't even really see a point in keeping your teammates if you don't have alternate paths.  Or do you need them to complete the mission?

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« Reply #155 on: February 23, 2005, 06:10:03 AM »
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Did the guy who did the PGC review not notice the whole multiplayer section of the game? I mean, I can understand... no... no I can't. Seems like its a pretty big part of this game. Given the lateness of the review you'd think he'd write something about it.


Lateness?  It's our second review.  I'm not sure why he left out multiplayer, but he got it done as quickly as he could.  Shipping to his country is remarkably slow.
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RE: Star Fox Assault
« Reply #156 on: February 23, 2005, 10:08:22 AM »
The game was dissapointing to me but it was by no means bad and I think the developers at Namco deserves another chance.
Nintendo should ask them to create a new Starfox title for the upcoming Revolution. Hopefully having learned from their mistakes and with superior hardware to work with, they'll be able to make the Starfox game that Assault SHOULD have been.

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« Reply #157 on: February 23, 2005, 10:21:48 AM »
"The game was dissapointing to me but it was by no means bad and I think the developers at Namco deserves another chance. Nintendo should ask them to create a new Starfox title for the upcoming Revolution."

Screw that.  Namco didn't just do a poor job that changed the focus of Star Fox to something that fans were not interested in.  There's a huge difference between kind of screwing a game up and having no clue what the franchise is even about.  Once Namco decided that Fox was going to leave his vehicles to walk around on foot they clearly showed to me that they don't "get" what Star Fox is all about.  I do not want to see anyone but EAD or Argonaut working on the next Star Fox game.  We've had two different devs f*ck up the last two Star Fox games.  I don't trust anyone else to work on Star Fox anymore.

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RE: Star Fox Assault
« Reply #158 on: February 23, 2005, 10:26:57 AM »
Namco did a fantastic job on the arwing missions, so I don't see why not...Ninty can easily just tell them to stick solely to the arwing next time...

But one thing I do know is this: On-foot gameplay MUST be kept in for multiplayer...Other-wise you get the rather boring, pointless Starfox 64 multiplayer...
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« Reply #159 on: February 23, 2005, 11:08:06 AM »
"But one thing I do know is this: On-foot gameplay MUST be kept in for multiplayer...Other-wise you get the rather boring, pointless Starfox 64 multiplayer..."

Why even have multiplayer or at least why have it in a competitive way?  I think the ideal form of multiplayer for Star Fox is like that used in Rebel Strike: co-op.  A big part of Star Fox is the wingmen so to me the natural extension of that concept is to allow human players to play with each other.  Co-op is such a "well duh" idea for Star Fox that in a way not having it seems almost unacceptable.

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« Reply #160 on: February 23, 2005, 03:12:36 PM »
Competitive, battle royale-style multiplayer is fun.  That's why it should have it.
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« Reply #161 on: February 23, 2005, 05:11:03 PM »
"But one thing I do know is this: On-foot gameplay MUST be kept in for multiplayer...Other-wise you get the rather boring, pointless Starfox 64 multiplayer... "

On foot multiplayer was in Starfox 64...
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RE: Star Fox Assault
« Reply #162 on: February 23, 2005, 05:20:57 PM »
Maybe I should have been a bit more specific with "on-foot gameplay" (the gameplay specifically in Assault with all the cool weapons and "transfer to vehicle" game design)
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RE: Star Fox Assault
« Reply #163 on: February 24, 2005, 12:27:03 AM »
So on foot is cool now because you can use vehicles?  ;-)
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RE: Star Fox Assault
« Reply #164 on: February 24, 2005, 02:12:49 AM »
Yes, I wouldn't take it any other way...
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« Reply #165 on: February 26, 2005, 09:29:02 AM »
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IanSane, you wrote:

"Yet all the Star Fox fans are complaining that there's not enough on-rails levels. IGN's score sounds accurate it's just their complaints about the game are the complete opposite of what the target audience thinks.

"IGN in general though is REALLY bad at judging any game in a non-mainstream genre. Gradius V for example lost points simply because it's a SHMUP and numerous 2D fighters get slammed for being 2D fighting games."

Hmm, I must say that I don´t think it´s a huge problem for Nintendo that IGN gives StarFox a hard time. Not on second thought. I think we haven´t seen the last of IGN´s bad scores for Nintendo games. Next one up to score badly may be the next Metroid game which they may not like for some reason. But that is no problem. Nintendo wont be affected by that website and it´s anti-Nintendo tunes.


I've heard a lot of "IGN this" and "IGN that" on these forums - what gives?  If you are going to complain about something from their site, certainly it couldn't be Starfox - judging by EGM and Gamespot's scores (both 7.3), I don't think that they gave it an unfair review.

From what I've heard from you guys, this is a total rent game.  Having played the first two Starfox's thoroughly, my expectations are naturally going to be very high for the game, no matter what I may do to dissuade them.

And what's the big deal with Matt at IGN liking the PSP?  I'd much rather hear true opinions from a guy in his position than mindless Nintendo-loving banter.  If he doesn't like the DS, he doesn't like the DS, who cares?  Let him dislike it - I think he's given some very reasonable reasons for doing so.



Very well said. Starting with Star Fox, my expectations were VERY high. I loved the original and thought the Nintendo 64 was a great followup. Star Fox Adventures can't be put down because it's a game of a completely different catagory. In conclusion, I wasn't happy that Nintendo handed off one of my favorite franchises to Namco. I'll just leave it at that.

Regarding the Nintendo DS and IGN, I also could not agree more. Why do so many people expect someone to completely praise the DS for it's replay value, when at this moment, it has virtually none.


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RE: Star Fox Assault
« Reply #166 on: February 26, 2005, 09:40:02 AM »
Why do so many people expect someone to completely praise the DS for it's replay value, when at this moment, it has virtually none.

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« Reply #167 on: February 26, 2005, 09:42:10 AM »
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Oh, please.  If anything that's just another reason to put it down.
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« Reply #168 on: February 27, 2005, 05:25:30 AM »
To be honest, no console actually has replay.  Unless you get some sick pleasure out of going through the menu.

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« Reply #169 on: February 27, 2005, 08:46:56 AM »
However, DS has more than any other system, mostly because of Pictochat
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« Reply #170 on: February 27, 2005, 11:45:17 PM »
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To be honest, no console actually has replay.  Unless you get some sick pleasure out of going through the menu.


Oh tell me you haven't done the thing where you hold down the B button or whatever it is on all four controllers at the start up screen to hear the weird noises. A menu CAN actually have replay value.

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« Reply #171 on: February 28, 2005, 05:32:13 AM »
Just to try and lighten things up a bit in this thread... has anyone else noticed that Oikonny sound a lot like Mandark from 'Dexter's Lab'?

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« Reply #172 on: February 28, 2005, 07:16:14 AM »
Mandark has a more devious-sounding voice.

I personally think that Oikonny sounds much more like that pimple-faced teenager from The Simpsons.