Author Topic: Happy Birthday, KN! (Read 49215 times)

TMW · « **Reply #50 on:** February 01, 2005, 09:34:06 AM »

Hrm...I'm a little disappointed that it does that...

But I suppose I can find it in my heart to forgive Namco for it.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #51 on:** February 01, 2005, 09:57:14 AM »

"The game saves after each mission"

Yeah. Gotta dumb down the game for all those casual gamers that don't buy Gamecubes anyway. Funny how Nintendo will not change with the industry in so many other ways yet has had no problem following the trend of making games easier and easier.

D-Mac Double · « **Reply #52 on:** February 01, 2005, 10:01:34 AM »

If this game has got anything similar to the warp worlds or "Out Of This Dimension", I will be very, very, happy.

To me, the Out Of This Dimension stage from the SNES Starfox is the greatest thing in video games. Ever.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #53 on:** February 01, 2005, 11:18:46 AM »

Well, there seem to be enough options to keep pretty much anyone happy. I can imagine myself playing a lot of survival mode. I beat Star Fox 64 more times than any other game I've ever played, and I've quite possibly played it the most, too.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #54 on:** February 01, 2005, 11:31:30 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"The game saves after each mission"

Yeah. Gotta dumb down the game for all those casual gamers that don't buy Gamecubes anyway. Funny how Nintendo will not change with the industry in so many other ways yet has had no problem following the trend of making games easier and easier.

Funny how you only recognize the part of my post that applies to your argument...

joshnickerson · « **Reply #55 on:** February 01, 2005, 11:45:10 AM »

I have no problem with a save feature. I don't exactly have a ton of free time to play games anymore, so it'd be nice to be able to take the game a few stages at a time.

And yes, I've played StarFox 64 straight through many many times, but that was before I had a 10 hr. a day job.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #56 on:** February 01, 2005, 11:46:44 AM »

Oh, and just so you guys know, it takes more than just a few missions to reach the end of the game...So you'll be doing quite a test making it to the end in Survival...

Gamefreak · « **Reply #57 on:** February 01, 2005, 12:02:00 PM »

oh ahahaha lol man you guys are really uptight and defensive... I never mentioned anything about the gameplay or that it would be bad. I said I didn't like the art and the graphics aren't advanced. You guys seem to have done a great job twisting that into "omg this game looks bad it's going to suck!!!11!Lkjs;df"
Anyway I have never said if this will be good or bad... Although I'm totally unimpressed with what I've seen with the ground combat. And since I'm likely going to be criticized in the future for saying anything negative about your precious Nintendo games, I'm just going to say that I'm a very touch critic and I'm not going to excuse faults for any reason, especially if something "is supposed to be like that for whatever reason" even though obviously hinders the game. Good thing Capcom changed the camera in RE4 huh?

Anyway quit implying I'm not a real gamer or stuff like that... Anyway like I said I'm tough but I'm fair and I understand things (gasp) even if you don't bother to write it out explicitly saying otherwise. I'm complaining about the graphics. Do I really have to write out that I understand this does not imply I doubt the gameplay quality? o_O It's like my reader reviews on Gamespot (Gamefreak72) ... I don't write much explaining everyt little thing since that would take pages, but I give a LOT of thought to the scores I assign, I even have huge spreadsheets with score charts across all games I've ever completed, with fair scores given in the time period of its release... Speaking of which, perhaps I should upload some more to gamespot... good way to waste time

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #58 on:** February 01, 2005, 01:59:10 PM »

I think the graphics in this are fine. The ground combat seems a bit sketchy, but everything in space looks great; just like the Star Fox I love. It's a much better style than SFA, which is about as generic as you can get (even if it does look nice).
Hopefully it won't be a pile of crap like the last one was.

Bill, do you know if there are separate paths you can take, or just one long set path?

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #59 on:** February 01, 2005, 02:09:18 PM »

Berty says the game follows a linear mission pathway, which is a bit disappointing, but it sounds as if there are more missions overall than in the previous games...

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #60 on:** February 01, 2005, 02:18:49 PM »

Alright, thanks. I suppose I can live with that. Especially if there's a survival mode and we get to play the levels whenever we want when we beat them.

I'm also amazed that every level is in multiplayer. That's just bizarre.

Deguello · « **Reply #61 on:** February 02, 2005, 04:38:11 AM »

"Yeah. Gotta dumb down the game for all those casual gamers that don't buy Gamecubes anyway. Funny how Nintendo will not change with the industry in so many other ways yet has had no problem following the trend of making games easier and easier."

Ian, really. This thread is about StarFox. This thread has nothing to do with the industry. I know you negatively criticize Nintendo a lot. Every second post of yours is "What Nintendo is doing wrong and how Ian can fix it." And that's ok. Really. It's your right to. Whatever. But you are letting it bleed into unrelated threads. I have great respect for you Ian, but you are becoming like the cubed_canuck. You may have zealous concern about Nintendo, but it appears you are just trolling, like cubed_canuck did. Can't we just have one thread about a game where you don't barge in and play that one record about industry position again, hmm?

Ian Sane · « **Reply #62 on:** February 02, 2005, 07:12:01 AM »

"I have great respect for you Ian, but you are becoming like the cubed_canuck."

Ouch! The ultimate insult.

That guy liked the Xbox though. Bleh.

Okay I'll get back on topic. IGN posted their impressions and they don't sound too keen on the on-foot missions. I'm getting a Rebel Strike vibe from their impressions. So to those here who have played it what are the on-foot parts like?

hudsonhawk · « **Reply #63 on:** February 02, 2005, 10:45:26 AM »

The on-foot stuff was more fun that I expected. I didn't play Rebel Strike, so I can't compare, but the on-foot stuff is still fast and furious - it feels like something of a cross between Jet Force Gemini and Smash TV.

The cool dynamic of it is that you will often have to jump out of your tank, run inside and blow something up, and then run back out to your tank. The weapon switching is slightly annoying, but otherwise it's fun and adds some variety.

But I'm only about 90 minutes into it, which means I'm on the 4th level or so. Thus far: it's big fun, but might be more of a renter than a buyer. More evolutionary than revolutionary, in terms of how it compares to the 64 title.

joshnickerson · « **Reply #64 on:** February 02, 2005, 11:33:25 AM »

I remember when playing Star Fox 64, on the stage where you first encounter Star Wolf (I forget the name of the planet, I THINK it was Fortuna) and at the end Fox flew inside the base to disarm the bomb. I always thought it'd be so cool if Fox got out of the plane at that point and you had to search the building for the bomb. I hope the on-foot portions capture what I imagined.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #65 on:** February 02, 2005, 11:49:08 AM »

I'm more of a flight lover, but I'm not really dreading the walking levels. They'll add some variety.

What I would like to see is Fox in his Arwing, covering someone who's on the ground while they do that part of the mission. I think that would be awesome. They were "covering" you in a few levels in the 64 games, but covering someone else would bring a new challenge and more fun to the game, at least for one level. I can't imagine who he'd cover, though, unless it were Slippy in the landmaster or something. Maybe Krystal, but Falco doesn't seem the type to leave his ship much at all.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #66 on:** February 02, 2005, 12:35:16 PM »

Well actually you get that in reverse...Sometimes you need to help your teammates (who are in the air) from the ground...

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #67 on:** February 02, 2005, 06:31:13 PM »

Yeah, I know. They had that in the 64 game. I just thought it would be cool if the roles were switched, it'd be a new sort of challenge for the series.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #68 on:** February 02, 2005, 08:20:57 PM »

So yeah, Blockbuster has this game.

So um yeah, it's not that great at all. The music actually turned out to be nice, and some of the flying parts are really fun, but the ground combat is just not good and overall, it's pretty average.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #69 on:** February 02, 2005, 08:31:52 PM »

Well, I'm stubborn and wholly intend to buy it regardless, but tell me: Did you play Starfox 64? And if so, how does it compare? Because I love Starfox 64 more than my own mother.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #70 on:** February 02, 2005, 08:39:46 PM »

I loved Starfox 64. I thought it was awesome.
But playing Assault now is way, way, waaay less impressive now than playing Star Fox 64 was back in 1996 (or was it 97) on the N64.
Basically if you're a Star Fox fan then yes, this game is definately worth getting, but it could've been much better, especially for a freaking 2005 game.

PS you should know I'm an extremely critical and tough person when it comes to games, heck I thought Wind Waker, Half-life 2, and even No One Lives Forever 2 were disappointing and not as good as they should have been, although I acknowledge they were among the best of 2003, 2004, and 2002 respectively... But yeah you probably shouldn't listen to me too much... I'm sure you'll have a great time with this game. Although, yeah, it could have been way better.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #71 on:** February 02, 2005, 09:27:44 PM »

So, ummm...

*Looks around with shifty eyes*

What if you didn't play SF64? You know, just a hypothetical question.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #72 on:** February 02, 2005, 10:05:02 PM »

I'm afraid I'm going to be part of the stubborn clan too, since I enjoy the Star Fox series I'm going to have to buy this one too lol. Even with the iffy perceptions out their, but I guess I'll be one of the Gamecube sheep and get it

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joshnickerson · « **Reply #73 on:** February 03, 2005, 03:41:16 AM »

Hmm.
After reading PGC impressions, I'm starting to become a bit worried myself, especially if you can't even use the R trigger to barrel roll anymore.

Crap. And I LOVE Star Fox...

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #74 on:** February 03, 2005, 03:58:19 AM »

I can't shake the feeling that everyone judging this based entirely on Starfox 64, which isn't exactly fair. That's like comparing man to God. So far most people have said it's not as good as Starfox 64, and that doesn't tell me much at all.
Therefore I'll probably end up renting this (or trying out my friend's copy) and maybe purchasing, depending on what I think.
Jesus Christ, I can't wait until Nintendo starts making Starfox again. Didn't they learn their lesson with Rare?

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Author Topic: Happy Birthday, KN! (Read 49215 times)