Author Topic: Fire Emblem (Read 11498 times)

norebonomis · « **on:** January 21, 2005, 03:06:46 PM »

from what i've read this game used to be only in japan? it looks pretty good from the screen shots on pgp's homepage. I might pick this one up.

Does anyone, i'm sure you do, know what this game is about? genre, etc?

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1 on:** January 21, 2005, 04:48:51 PM »

It's a Strat game by Intelligent Systems...You should try out the GBA version released here to see if you like it...

160R · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2005, 01:29:36 PM »

If you like it, you can import it (if you have Freeloader)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2005, 09:41:00 PM »

I'm not sure how smart it'd be to play such a text-heavy game as an import...

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2005, 12:48:19 AM »

Anyone who has played the GBA version can easily tell you that importing this game is a bad idea unless you can read Japanese. The dialogue usually tells you something important like you have to kill so and so or try to convert this guy to your team, etc.

If you have played Advanced Wars it is made by the same ppl. I highly suggest this game to anyone that has played Final Fantasy tactics, or one of my favorites.......Gladius.

I love how these strategy games are being seen more this generation!

By the way the GBA game is Excellent, someone from PGC forums convinced me to get it when i was at the time addicted to Advance Wars.

Sorry i forgot who it was but BIG THANKS to whomever!

Ymeegod · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2005, 04:59:23 AM »

"GBA version released here "

LOL--guess you missed what he was saying.

There was a GBA verision of Fire Emblem IV (I think that's the number) Japan released stateside as Fire Emblem.

Fire Emblem US = Fire Emblem IV Japan.

And yeah, you can import this for your GBA since GBA's don't have any regional coding.

FINN · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2005, 05:55:50 AM »

Fire emblem is a Strategy/RPG game, the US version is number 7 in the series.

norebonomis the gamecube one is out sometime in America in Q2, so it best to wait for that instead. Though if you want to try out the gameboy advance ones, go look for Fire emblem along with the new GBA Fire emblem: The sacred Stones which I think is out around March or April.

Terranigma Freak · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2005, 05:59:21 AM »

Here are a couple of scans:

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/fe/fegc/propaganda/fegc003.jpg

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/fe/fegc/propaganda/fegc001.jpg

http://img159.exs.cx/img159/7712/firegc5ej.jpg

http://www.jeux-france.com/news7812_fire-emblem.html

Actually, you need very little japanese to get through Fire Emblem. It's not an RPG so it's kinda linear. You don't have to worry about where to go and crap. Just know what weapon does what. When I first started Fire Emblem, there were no english translations. I just knew a little bit of kanji, plus a little FAQ and BAM, it was instant magic.

The GC FE is coming, btw. It's coming April 20 in Japan, and 2nd Q in America. The GBA game is coming out sooner. The one ALREADY OUT is Fire Emblem 7 in Japan. The GC is FE9, and FE8 for GBA coming soon.

New information concerning Fire Emblem: Trail of Blue Flames have been available via a Japanese publication. The story is set on a continent Terius, which is home to two different races. The humanoid Beok live side-by-side with the beastly Raguz throughout the eight kingdoms. The current truce between the group seems to be fragile, as they have a strong dislike for each other.

The terrain will play a large factor in the gameplay. Players who place units on higher terrain than the enemies will gain damage bonuses. Likewise, archers placed on high terrain will gain a wider range. Whether placing units on lower terrain has any comparable relevance is unknown.

"Pushing" units, either ally or enemy, will be one of the many available commands. Exact details are unknown, other than it will rush slower moving units to the front lines faster. Character skills will be similar to previous versions, but a new enigmatic parameter, called "capacity," will be introduced in this Fire Emblem title.

Newly announced characters from Trail of Blue Flames include:

Ike- The hero of this story. Ike is training to become a full-fledged member of the Grail Mercenary Troop. Although not very talkative, he can be quite impulsive at times.

Grail- Leader of the Grail Mercenaries and Ike's father. Grail is gruff and fair, yet still highly respected among his troops.

Mist- Ike's younger sister, and a helper for her father's troop. She's the homemaker of the family, and has a bright, cheery personality. She wears a medallion that serves as a memento of her mother.

Tiamat- Grail's second-in-command who wields a large halberd. A former member of the Kremia Royal Knights, she unexplainably joins Grail's forces. Her past with the knights or why she joined Grail is shrouded in mystery.

Senerio- A young strategist apprentice. Down to earth, collective, and in touch with reality, he has full trust in Ike.

Elincia- Princess of the Kremia kingdom. She fled her country's capital when it was invaded by enemy forces of the kingdom of Dein. While being pursued by soldiers, she wound up separated from her escort.

Fire Emblem: Trail of Blue Flames is scheduled for a Japanese release of April 20. The tentative release date for the North American version is still speculated to be in the second quarter of this year.

We know most of this except the higher terrain part. It seems that the landscape is going to be a dominant factor for strategy in this one, or at least, more than the others.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2005, 07:24:55 AM »

But if you can't read Japanese you will miss out on the story.. Fire Emblem games have excellenct stories. Gamespy is also saying this will have some really serious themes like racial tension and stuff.. Anyway the GBA Fire Emblem was awesome...
The only thing that concerns me is that while everything Intelligent System makes is awesome, they really aren't experienced with true 3D graphics (everything they have made, other than the 2 Paper Marios, were 2D games for GBA/SNES/NES). And Fire Emblem's graphics look.... bad. That's stuff the DS could put out no problem. It would be great if EAD was helping them out with the graphics... And if it had freaking voice in it... But IntSys is a great developer but they are a little behind the times technologically, still stuck in the 16bit glory days... But anyway EAD has about 1000 employees and they all can't be working on Zelda and Mario 128...

CHEN · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2005, 01:03:09 PM »

I

you TF. How's it going?

Yeah, all FE's I can recall have some highly suggestive themes. I'm amazed FE7 got an E rating. But not all FE's have great storytelling. Uh, what I'm trying to say is, I don't mind playing the import versions. As TF has mentioned, you don't need to understand Kanji to be able to enjoy the games. Although you'll run into some trial and error, especially now that the gameplay seem enhanced compared to previous instalments. Story isn't my main motivation to complete a game. Determination and patience however are required for these kinds of games.

As for the GC FE, I'm interested in how IS will solve the terrain system. 3D maps are an entirely different story as you might have guessed. And the skill capacity is also something to look out for. I certainly hope it'll balance the skill system as the skills in FE5 were too good.

As for people complaining about Intelligent Systems's 3D track record, they can do no wrong you hear me!

Seriously, what's wrong with being stuck in the 16-bit days? I might be a little nostalgic, but there're plenty of (console) games today that are fantastic even though they're not (completely) 3D. Four Swords Adventures, Gradius V, Alien Hominid, Disgaea: Hour of Darkness are but a few examples. Sadly, they're often not very succesful commercially. Some games just don't work (as well) when they transit to 3D (think Sonic, Castlevania, Contra). Ah, what am I babbling? Most people these days are graphic whores. My point is, everyone who complains that Advance Wars DS or Castlevania DS hasn't advanced enough compared to their GBA counterparts are fools. That said, I'm looking really forward to this as should every SRPG fan.

norebonomis · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2005, 03:48:33 PM »

i've never played any strategy games, well i've played age of empires, but get bored when it's time to go to war, i like the simulation part like building your empire, i wasn't ever one for going to war and stuff so i'm not sure if i would like a strategy game.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2005, 03:58:09 PM »

Well I don't think it's like that...It's more like a game of chess...Moving your characters across a board filled with obstacles, and then battling your opponents once you are within range...

KDR_11k · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2005, 07:02:42 PM »

norebonomis: Might like the Anno series (1602 A.D., 1503 A.D., the latter published by EA, though) better than AOE, then. They do have war but it takes a few hours to even be able to build ANY form of weapon, let alone destroy anything. Or perhaps the Caesar series (Caesar I-III, Pharao, Zeus, etc). Both have more fleshed out city building (with demands and stuff).

Ian Sane · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2005, 08:21:16 PM »

I think Nintendo could quite easily fill release date gaps by issuing compilations of the Japan-only Fire Emblem games in North America. There are six Japan exclusive titles so they could realistically get 2 or 3 comps out of that. Of course they have to translate it and either emulate it or port it but that would still be easier than making a new game and to most of us they're new. If Nintendo released these for the Revolution early in the console's life they could attract some hardcore RPG fans and establish a market for Revolution RPGs early on. They could release the first one as a launch title and then go from there. They always wait until way later to fill in genre gaps after it's too late. But this would establish the Revolution as a console for RPG fans right from the get go.

Different consoles are known for different types of games and it's important to early on establish the Revolution as being THE console for certain genres. And this includes little hardcore niche markets as they will buy a system just because there's some must own fighting games or shmups or whatever. The size of the PS2's userbase is partially due to the fact that they have pretty much every hardcore niche market locked.

With Fire Emblem and Advance Wars, Nintendo could easily establish the Revolution as the "strategy console".

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2005, 03:01:58 AM »

I agree with that Ian but Advance Wars on the gamecube wont exactly be a strategy game *shakes fist at Kuju*.

Terranigma Freak · « **Reply #15 on:** January 24, 2005, 04:16:56 AM »

Or at least remake the game that star Marth and Roy. That'll stop people from asking those questions everytime a new FE comes out.

And Gamefreak, did you see the screen shots from Jeux France? The scan look bad, but the ones in Jeux France are crystal clear shots that look anything but bad. They're not ground breaking either mind you, but very solid graphics.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #16 on:** January 24, 2005, 04:16:56 AM »

Ian: But that would make people complain that the first thing Nintendo releases on its "innovative" new console are ports.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #17 on:** January 24, 2005, 06:25:14 AM »

"But that would make people complain that the first thing Nintendo releases on its 'innovative' new console are ports."

Well I'm assuming that's not ALL Nintendo releases at launch. I'm suggesting this as part of a launch that includes at least two new first party games. Ports are not that terrible if you do it right. Super Mario 64 DS got a lot of criticism because it broke both "rules" of re-releases: 1. Don't release ports in place of new games & 2. Don't release ports of games that everyone has played and can easily find a copy of. As the sole first party launch title it broke rule 1 and since it is one of the most widely owned and easily available N64 games it broke rule 2. Fire Emblem to us is new so it looks like less of a lazy cash-in and more like being fan friendly. Unlike crappy NES ports sold at full price there is some actual demand for these Japan-only titles to be released here.

Gamefreak · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2005, 02:48:40 PM »

I've seen direct feed images TF... that's what I was basing my opinion on. I haven't seen any magazine scans... I'm talking about images from sites like here, Gamespot, and IGN. Anyway, look at this game, and then look at any other game, including EAD's Pikmin series. This game is about an level with Age of Empires technologically.... that's a 1997 PC game. And it's still not as detailed artistically as that 1997 game. This game looks ok if you're used to something like tons of Japanese PS2 RPG's, because those sport similarly crappy graphics. Anyway my point is this game looks BAD. At least Paper Mario 2 looked good, and had a reason for looking like it did. This game doesn't have any reason not to look like Zelda or something... except Fire Emblem is way more serious than Zelda (story wise at least..., it's definately not as dark artistically as some Zelda games).

KDR_11k · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2005, 08:38:54 PM »

Being equal to AOE would put it below FFTA, you sure about that?

FINN · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2005, 10:38:40 PM »

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This game doesn't have any reason not to look like Zelda or something... except Fire Emblem is way more serious than Zelda (story wise at least..., it's definately not as dark artistically as some Zelda games).
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What Zelda art has been dark artistically then?

Dasmos · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2005, 11:15:41 PM »

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Originally posted by: FINN
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This game doesn't have any reason not to look like Zelda or something... except Fire Emblem is way more serious than Zelda (story wise at least..., it's definately not as dark artistically as some Zelda games).
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What Zelda art has been dark artistically then?

He's just saying it isn't as some of the Zeldas not all. Well you can't really say tha WW was dark artistically. But MM definitely had 'darker' theme

FINN · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2005, 07:10:44 AM »

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He's just saying it isn't as some of the Zeldas not all. Well you can't really say tha WW was dark artistically. But MM definitely had 'darker' theme

If he is just comparing Fire emblem(7 in Japan) to the some of the Zelda games. It was a bit hard for this to have alot of dark themes seeming that it was just made to fill in plot holes from Fire emblem 6 in Japan. Plus I don't really see how OoT and MM(if your talking about those two in hand) had dark themes o_O. Most fire emblem games have alot darker themes then the Zelda series.

Anyway if anyone hasn't seen them

http://www.jeux-france.com/news7812_fire-emblem.html <- some pictures that were released around Nov-Dec

http://img159.exs.cx/img159/7712/firegc5ej.jpg<- latest scan with some new artwork

Gamefreak · « **Reply #23 on:** January 25, 2005, 11:58:02 AM »

I never said "dark themes" I distinctly said that the Fire Emblem stories are darker (although MM is pretty twisted).. I'm talking about graphically. Nothing in Fire Emblem compares to things like the blood smeared Shadow Temple or the underground Well...

KDR, you're crazy. Age of Empires is FAR better looking than FFTA... I can't even begin to fathom such an inane comparison... Maybe you should go look at some screenshots to refresh your memory.

Nephilim · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2005, 01:22:33 PM »

The game will be awsome
Intelligent Systems are ace

Fire Emblem is a great series, they keep expanding it
I really think they will be able to keep going, unlike the orge battle team who made there SE edition for psx
then were bought, made a great psx which u should expect, then a basic FFTA for gba which added rules because it had no strategy without it

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Author Topic: Fire Emblem (Read 11498 times)