Author Topic: Official DS Sales Thread (Read 833329 times)

Artimus · « **Reply #1300 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:33:48 AM »

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It's been over a MONTH of shortages, they better have 1 million DS Lites in stores day 1 otherwise people are just going to stop caring. This is absolutely ridiculous, and i'm being serious in this paragraph.

Sony has proved shortages aren't an issue. Unless the PSP starts spiking, there's not the slighest need to be concerned.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1301 on:** February 09, 2006, 05:05:12 AM »

Well it would be better not to have shortages, but I don't think people are going to stop caring as long as Nintendo keeps tempting them with Tetris and Super Mario Bros. DS, not to mention all the games that are already available.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1302 on:** February 09, 2006, 05:12:35 AM »

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Sony has proved shortages aren't an issue. Unless the PSP starts spiking, there's not the slighest need to be concerned.

There's a greater danger that people will start spiking PSPs, actually.

I've heard stories about people not being able to return them and videotaping their aggression on the unit.

–SB

JonLeung · « **Reply #1303 on:** February 09, 2006, 05:15:03 AM »

Sorry if this is old, but where does CNN.com get their info? It was a week or two ago when they said PSPs have sold half a million more than the DS. That doesn't seem likely...is it?

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #1304 on:** February 10, 2006, 08:00:07 AM »

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Sorry if this is old, but where does CNN.com get their info? It was a week or two ago when they said PSPs have sold half a million more than the DS. That doesn't seem likely...is it?

not WW they haven't, they sold more PSP's in NA in 2005, but since the DS was out in 2004 the DS still has a small lead.

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It's been over a MONTH of shortages, they better have 1 million DS Lites in stores day 1 otherwise people are just going to stop caring. This is absolutely ridiculous, and i'm being serious in this paragraph.

Dear god Mario is serious...RUN!!!

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #1305 on:** February 10, 2006, 12:06:24 PM »

NDS beat the PS2 in Japan in 2005.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6144079.html

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #1306 on:** February 10, 2006, 07:21:28 PM »

Some good information comes from this article also. Quite a few people are waiting for the DS Lite. I don't think the supply problems will be cured until the Lite comes out in a few weeks in Japan. Because there is little chance that Nintendo will increase the production of the older model that will be phased out as the new one comes in so most of their resources are going into making the DS Lite.

In two weeks of availblity the DS took the lead and may keep it until the new device comes out. Since the PSP doesn't look like it going over 50k a week.

Mario · « **Reply #1307 on:** February 12, 2006, 02:22:43 PM »

Jan US NPD Hardware

PlayStation 2 272,000
Xbox 360 249,000
PlayStation Portable 179,000
Game Boy Advance 172,000
Nintendo DS 158,000
Xbox 89,000
GameCube 66,000

Holy crap, PSP > GBA, Sonys takeover of the handheld market has officially STARTED. DS is pretty much out of the picture now too, and Xbox has overtaken GC again and killed any momentum Nintendo hoped to carry. I think the US is starting to be the country with the worst taste in games.

Xbox 360 is also starting to gain some massive ground, will Revolution ever be able to catch up to the massive lead it's going to obtain? 250k in January is amazing, Jan is the slowest month of the year, so it's going to sell at least another 250k every month.

Things aren't looking good. The scariest thing is how much Nintendo America dropped the ball with DS.

Artimus · « **Reply #1308 on:** February 12, 2006, 02:44:56 PM »

Nintendo needs to kill the GBA now, its time.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #1309 on:** February 12, 2006, 02:52:30 PM »

Judging by the January sales figures, I disagree. The GBA still has some legs to it, selling almost as much as the PSP. The DS on the other hand seems to be flopping around miserably, not even coming close to the GBA. I think Nintendo needs to kill the DS and move all future projects to the GBA2, it's obvious nobody wants the DS.

Artimus · « **Reply #1310 on:** February 12, 2006, 03:16:38 PM »

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Judging by the January sales figures, I disagree. The GBA still has some legs to it, selling almost as much as the PSP. The DS on the other hand seems to be flopping around miserably, not even coming close to the GBA. I think Nintendo needs to kill the DS and move all future projects to the GBA2, it's obvious nobody wants the DS.

The GBA is leeching sales. Lower the DS price a bit, release the Lite at a lower price, and end the GBA. Sales will go UP.

IceCold · « **Reply #1311 on:** February 12, 2006, 04:34:46 PM »

Wow, I'm shocked at the DS sales. I thought that the holiday momentum and all the great games released recently would propel it. Not looking good..

ShyGuy · « **Reply #1312 on:** February 12, 2006, 06:30:31 PM »

Sony: 451,000
Nintendo: 396,000
Microsoft: 338,000

Nothing really impressive and not a huge spread between the systems any which way.

PS2 is still doing amazingly well. I wanna know who is buying all these PS2s, PSP is also doing decent
Microsoft is either got tough times ahead for the 360 or are still the victims of shortages, I guess well know more come spring.
DS is doing less than I expected, hopefully Metroid Hunters will have a good marketing push, GBA just keeps raking in the dough, can't see why Nintendo would discontinue it. I bet productions costs are low enough on it now that they could sell it for $50 and still make a profit.

Artimus · « **Reply #1313 on:** February 12, 2006, 07:07:09 PM »

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GBA just keeps raking in the dough, can't see why Nintendo would discontinue it. I bet productions costs are low enough on it now that they could sell it for $50 and still make a profit.

Because its raking at the expense of the DS.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #1314 on:** February 12, 2006, 07:50:17 PM »

Well if they make, say, $20 off of every GBA they sell, and $10 off of every DS they sell, why would they? The DS isn't in dire straits, far from it. It has the overall lead in in all the major sales regions.

Now, if the DS continues to decline, even after Metroid and the GBA remains steady then maybe it would be time to kill of the DS.

Artimus · « **Reply #1315 on:** February 12, 2006, 09:14:25 PM »

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Well if they make, say, $20 off of every GBA they sell, and $10 off of every DS they sell, why would they? The DS isn't in dire straits, far from it. It has the overall lead in in all the major sales regions.

Now, if the DS continues to decline, even after Metroid and the GBA remains steady then maybe it would be time to kill of the DS.

The reason the DS isn't outselling the PSP is because people are buying so many GBAs. The GBA is a dead system, the better it does the harder it becomes for the DS to dominate in North America.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1316 on:** February 13, 2006, 05:24:01 AM »

Well, I think the DS could use a new marketing push, too. I really haven't seen Nintendo pushing the system much compared to the PSP. I saw one Mario Kart commercial, and no Animal Crossing or Mario & Luigi commercials this Christmas. I saw a few PSP commercials.

I don't think Nintendo should kill the GBA but a lower price point for the DS might be a good idea, and big marketing pushes for Final Fantasy III, New Super Mario Bros. and Metroid Prime Hunters are a must. I think those games, plus the new Lite version could easily put the DS in the dominant position in North America, but Nintendo needs to really commit to it.

Amodaus1 · « **Reply #1317 on:** February 13, 2006, 03:19:14 PM »

NPD isn't really a trustable source as they don't account for internet sales, and walmart (largest retailer in the US, which seemed to have the DS on their homepage for the holiday season) and a few other stores

What NPD does track is the industry specialty stores gamestop EB ect..., all of which i feel push the psp harder then the ds, so no ssurprise in those numbers

Mario · « **Reply #1318 on:** February 13, 2006, 03:32:22 PM »

Funny fact: In Japan, DS sold more software in January 2006 than PSP did for all of 2004 and 2005. (4,770,000 vs 4,730,000)

IceCold · « **Reply #1319 on:** February 13, 2006, 08:39:05 PM »

This is worldwide, right? Well it figures; the PSP's multimedia focus just kills the tie-in ratio..

-> I don't get it. I really don't. Nearly every single major franchise that sold the GBA to so many people in North America has been successfully translated to the DS, and in some cases with even better results. Castlevania. Advance Wars. Sonic. Kirby. Mario Kart (not a port). Mario & Luigi. Wario Ware. All of these have arguably better versions on the DS, and they were integral to the success of the GBA. Combine these with some awesome new IPs or new handheld iterations, and the DS's library is nothing if not healthy. The only two big franchises left are Pokemon and Metroid (both coming sooner or later).

So why on earth is the DS selling so badly over here? I really thought that their fall lineup would carry them far. But...

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1320 on:** February 13, 2006, 09:58:24 PM »

North America is driven by marketing.

Mario · « **Reply #1321 on:** February 13, 2006, 10:35:32 PM »

NPD Jan Software sales dont quite match up to the hardware

1 NDS NINTENDOGS (combined)
2 360 CALL OF DUTY 2
3 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06
4 PS2 MVP 06 NCAA BASEBALL
5 PSP GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES
6 NDS MARIO KART
7 NDS ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD
8 PS2 NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED
9 360 DEAD OR ALIVE 4
10 PS2 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II
11 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006

No numbers known, just that the top 5 sold over 100k, and NFS:MW PS2 sold 88,000, so that puts MKDS and ACWW just under 100,000 for the month, with an outstanding performance by Nintendogs.

31 Flavas · « **Reply #1322 on:** February 13, 2006, 10:41:43 PM »

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So why on earth is the DS selling so badly over here? I really thought that their fall lineup would carry them far. But...

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. It has great games, it's inexpensive and easy to develop for, it's userbase is large and constantly growing, and i'd say has a excellent system price. So the DS isn't going anywhere, but forward.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #1323 on:** February 14, 2006, 06:47:33 AM »

"I don't get it. I really don't. Nearly every single major franchise that sold the GBA to so many people in North America has been successfully translated to the DS, and in some cases with even better results. Castlevania. Advance Wars. Sonic. Kirby. Mario Kart (not a port). Mario & Luigi. Wario Ware. All of these have arguably better versions on the DS, and they were integral to the success of the GBA."

That's the problem. The big games for the North American audience are all sequels. Why buy a DS to play Castlevania or Mario Kart when I can play those games on the GBA which is much cheaper? In Japan it's different. Nintendogs and Brain Training have done incredibly well. Those games don't exist on any other system ever so you HAVE to buy a DS for them. System sellers are typically new games with new experiences. "Hey come buy all the games you bought last time" doesn't sell systems. It sure as hell didn't sell Gamecubes.

In North America Nintendo needs something unique to really grab people. So far I've noticed with the DS that the "traditional games" are all sequels and franchise stuff while the "non-games" are new. Nintendo has been of the idea that their franchises are everything so they probably think that franchises and sequels are good enough to attract the traditional group. But that's a flawed plan. It requires the non-gamer strategy to really take off. In Japan it has but in North America it hasn't really yet. After all the whole plan was in response to the market in Japan so it makes sense why it would work well there but not here. Here the "people getting bored of games" arguement doesn't make sense. It's quite the opposite here. So Nintendo has a problem where their new content, the games that are supposed to be the system sellers, are all non-games so if non-games don't take off in North America they've got nothing but a bunch of sequels which will make it harder to find a system seller.

The GBA doesn't help. After all if the DS isn't providing that much different for traditional gamers then the GBA itself having the GBA in stores is going to give people even more of an excuse to buy the old system.

It's not a really drastic situation but it's something Nintendo has to keep in mind. Traditional gamers are not going to be content to just play the same old stuff over again.

Artimus · « **Reply #1324 on:** February 14, 2006, 07:20:10 AM »

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In Japan it's different. Nintendogs and Brain Training have done incredibly well.

Brain Training obviously isn't out yet, but you DO see the sales chart above you, right?

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