Author Topic: LOZ: 2005 (Read 699657 times)

mantidor · « **Reply #1575 on:** August 24, 2005, 05:18:38 PM »

sarcasm?

in case it isnt, well, duh, its Tingle, one of my favorite characters in the Zelda universe and I DONT CARE WHAT YOU PEOPLE THINK

vudu · « **Reply #1576 on:** August 25, 2005, 09:50:31 AM »

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Originally posted by: ThePerm
when he means dark...when link kills something...he has a cold uncaring expression...and doesnt dance around like a fairy boy....dark.

I loved the dance Link does after beating a boss. It's probably my single favorite part of the game. People thought I was crazy.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1577 on:** August 25, 2005, 10:30:43 AM »

I know *I'd* be dancing like that if I just defeated a creature 20 times my size...

TMW · « **Reply #1578 on:** August 25, 2005, 10:39:18 AM »

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I know *I'd* be dancing like that if I just defeated a creature 20 times my size...

I'd probably be changing my pants.

stevey · « **Reply #1579 on:** August 25, 2005, 10:45:03 AM »

"sarcasm?"

no to sarcasm and no to tingle I was going to say that there was mature stuff in Oot and not MM like ganondolf bleed red blood or the gaint cock of a pig you need to hit with a gaint hammer to kill it, and there was no hammering of gaint cock of moster in MM that and tingles suck.

vudu · « **Reply #1580 on:** August 25, 2005, 11:43:50 AM »

Now, I'll admit I haven't played OoT since Nintendo gave away Master Quest with Wind Waker previews, but I certainly don't remember hammering any giant pig cocks. Can someone please refresh my memory?

TMW · « **Reply #1581 on:** August 25, 2005, 11:53:11 AM »

I beleive Stevey meant Ganons tail. How you smack his tail to make him drop his head and all that.

Unless Stevey found a "Hot Coffee" mod no one knows about.

mantidor · « **Reply #1582 on:** August 25, 2005, 04:15:43 PM »

I was sure Stevey was talking about Tingle T_T ...

*****spoilers of MM

******

anyway, the most mature game I have ever experienced is Majora's Mask, but I cant pick up one single moment, mostly all the awesome sidequests, like Anju-Kafei, or when you play the balad of the wind fish to make one of brothers to cry, not to mention the award Cremia gives you when you save her cargo of milk (an Im not talking about the mask

), or one particular moment when you save Pamela's father, that was very touching. The experience of the game as whole was very "deep" fo me. Link starts wanting to get the hell out of there, but as the game progresses Link starts to care about these people and actually want to save them, he as character "grows" so to speak, and so do us as the players o the game. Now thats what I call maturity, not punching pigs' cocks or some blood that seems fog

IceCold · « **Reply #1583 on:** August 25, 2005, 05:27:14 PM »

Ahhh! Spoiler Overload!

IceCold · « **Reply #1584 on:** August 25, 2005, 05:27:14 PM »

stevey · « **Reply #1585 on:** August 26, 2005, 11:48:42 AM »

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Originally posted by: mantidor
I was sure Stevey was talking about Tingle T_T ...

*****spoilers of MM ******

anyway, the most mature game I have ever experienced is Majora's Mask, but I cant pick up one single moment, mostly all the awesome sidequests, like Anju-Kafei, or when you play the balad of the wind fish to make one of brothers to cry, not to mention the award Cremia gives you when you save her cargo of milk (an Im not talking about the mask ), or one particular moment when you save Pamela's father, that was very touching. The experience of the game as whole was very "deep" fo me. Link starts wanting to get the hell out of there, but as the game progresses Link starts to care about these people and actually want to save them, he as character "grows" so to speak, and so do us as the players o the game. Now thats what I call maturity, not punching pigs' cocks or some blood that seems fog

well hmmmmm I dont know how to reply with all those spoiler in my head ... I'm talking about how matur Oot is your talk bout MM maturity matur is srewing two poeple a once maturity is not laughing or smiling when odering chichen brest or in zelda matur is zelda being nude and maturity is taking on the task of saving hirul or in other words matur is a playboy mag and maturity is helping a nude old lady cross the road or simpley matur-noun maturity-verb tingle-suck

TMW · « **Reply #1586 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:00:49 PM »

Isn't there a statue of limitations when it comes to spoilers?

Rosebud is the sled and all that.

vudu · « **Reply #1587 on:** August 26, 2005, 12:54:58 PM »

Bruce Willis is dead.

Leon Esla · « **Reply #1588 on:** August 26, 2005, 01:00:22 PM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Ocarina was quite bright and colorful compared to Majora's Mask.

First of all, when I look at the world of Termina compared to Hyrule, I already see a much more colorful place. Secondly, the moon crashing to the earth wasn't really all that desperate of a gimmick to put into the story. All you have to do is go back in time and you can save the day. You can't really do that in Ocarina of Time. Hyrule as you know it is ravaged and conquered by evil.

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Wind Waker was a lot darker than people seem to give credit to...Just because a game is in a cute graphic style doesn't mean the story is cutesy as well...

As much as I hate to say it, art style is the most important aspect when setting the mood of a game. Tales of Symphonia has a 'dark story' but because of it's art style, coupled with it's light undertones, it appears as being in a rather light mood. Which it is.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1589 on:** August 26, 2005, 01:04:28 PM »

Because every game where you get ass-raped by zombies is a light-hearted game!

TMW · « **Reply #1590 on:** August 26, 2005, 01:17:39 PM »

Is -that- the innuendo you were talking about, Bill? =P

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #1591 on:** August 26, 2005, 02:03:26 PM »

Majora's Mask is darker than Ocarina of Time because it's just so much more twisted. Ocarina has standard darkness and evil, but Majora's Mask was something much less traditional and ultimately more disturbing.
And it can be light and colorful, but that only adds to the contrast. Look at the rape scene in A Clockwork Orange.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1592 on:** August 26, 2005, 02:19:02 PM »

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Is -that- the innuendo you were talking about, Bill? =P

No, because being ass-raped isn't very implicit...

Leon Esla · « **Reply #1593 on:** August 30, 2005, 03:38:30 AM »

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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Majora's Mask is darker than Ocarina of Time because it's just so much more twisted. Ocarina has standard darkness and evil, but Majora's Mask was something much less traditional and ultimately more disturbing.
And it can be light and colorful, but that only adds to the contrast. Look at the rape scene in A Clockwork Orange.

Examples. Kplzthx.

The moon falling to the earth has more of a 'fairy tail' air to it than procession of darkness and evil. Ocarina of Time on the otherhand is a step away from being post-apocalyptic (ala SMT or Fallout). I can't really see what's so twisted about Majora's Mask. It's main villain being a kid perhaps? Zora pop-stars losing their voices? A monkey being accused of abduction? I don't know about you, but that sounds a lot more like quirk than twist.

Of course there is that ten or so minutes of the game which revolves around aquiring the Gibdo Mask. Other than that, nothing twisted at all comes to mind.

UncleBob · « **Reply #1594 on:** August 30, 2005, 05:56:27 AM »

Some Spoilers...

OoT isn't nearly as "dark" as Majora's Mask mainly because people don't talk about death in OoT. Sure, Ganondorf destroyed the castle, etc, etc... But pretty much everyone you meet in Hyrule Castle Town as a child can be found later in Kakariko Village as an adult. Also, as a child, the general people don't know their world is about to change greatly.

In Majora's Mask, the majority of people *do* know what's going on and they really do think they're going to die. Heck, at least two people do die in the course of the game (Mikau and Darmani and very possibly the Deku Butler's Son *tear*). Everywhere you go as the days pass, everyone is talking about doom and gloom. Try this, if you haven't already... Open the path to Romani Ranch on the first day. Don't save Romani from the aliens and don't get involved with the Anju/Kafei storyline.

On the third day, visit the Ranch.

vudu · « **Reply #1595 on:** August 30, 2005, 09:09:49 AM »

UB - I could do that, but I'm pretty lazy. Chances are I've already done it and just forgotten. Can you refresh my memory?

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1596 on:** August 30, 2005, 12:55:55 PM »

Long story short, YOU (Link) simply fail to rescue these people or fail to help them find peace. You failed as a hero, and the game events will acknowledge it.

mantidor · « **Reply #1597 on:** August 30, 2005, 04:56:28 PM »

Well someone dies in OoT, but its more of a bonus or secret thing. The twisted thing about MM is of course that it has all the characters of OoT, but with an odd twist, its like Alice in Wonderland, and I consider Alice to be very twisted.

a very clear example about how dark the game is is the moon children, the freaked the hell out of me. "give me more masks" "want to play? " ... *shudders* >_<

UncleBob · « **Reply #1598 on:** August 30, 2005, 06:27:18 PM »

vudu: Basically what Pro666 said.. It's very depressing. Anju and Cremia are both pretty much falling apart (Anju because Kafei apparently doesn't love her anymore and she's going to die alone and Cremia because Romani is pretty much a zombie...)

Caterkiller · « **Reply #1599 on:** August 30, 2005, 06:55:11 PM »

The Deku Buttlers son probably gave me the creeps more than the Moon Children. I just really really want to know the story behind that Deku buttlers son thats planted into the ground.

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