Topic: Shemue 3 to be on 360: Multi-platform Release Possible

[Stogi]

Oh.....I see......thanks for your help.

*loses interest immediately*

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

LOL

The Shenmue concept is basically a martial-arts revenge movie (80s style) drawn out into a series of 3D adventures.

Both games were very ambitious for their time since they took place in fairly dense 3D environments with people walking everywhere going about their business, has a day/night system.

Walk around and talk to people (LOTS of talking, full voice), lots of cutscenes plus interactive events (which probably inspired those of RE4) and find clues like in RPGs, and when you get into fights, it's sort of a compromise between simplified Virtua Fighter button combos and Final Fight gang fights.  You learn new moves from different masters and other sources.

I find the martial arts cinema themes and cliches entertaining plus the martial arts mentors and villains and the lowly henchmen are fun to beat up.

[Kairon]

Sounds like a real cinematic experience!

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Yup, but it's not like i'd shell out the cash to get the next installment in HD.

I bought my Dreamcast when it was priced at $70.  I bought Shenmue II (PAL) new off eBay for about $100; part of the appeal was the fact it was rare and more than a year had passed since its release -- but STILL A BARGAIN overall.

[Ceric]

Sounds like something I be interested in if they first released an updated compilation of the first 2 to play through.

[Stogi]

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LOL

The Shenmue concept is basically a martial-arts revenge movie (80s style) drawn out into a series of 3D adventures.

Both games were very ambitious for their time since they took place in fairly dense 3D environments with people walking everywhere going about their business, has a day/night system.

Walk around and talk to people (LOTS of talking, full voice), lots of cutscenes plus interactive events (which probably inspired those of RE4) and find clues like in RPGs, and when you get into fights, it's sort of a compromise between simplified Virtua Fighter button combos and Final Fight gang fights.  You learn new moves from different masters and other sources.

I find the martial arts cinema themes and cliches entertaining plus the martial arts mentors and villains and the lowly henchmen are fun to beat up.

Well that sounds a lot better. I am all about old-school kung-fu movies (Shogun Assassin is one of my all time favorites).

[Mashiro]

Well looks like Shenmue is dead ladies and gentlemen:

Shenmue Online cancelled, Shenmue 3 not happening as Sega’s franchise dies.

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It’s now been confirmed by Kikizo staff saying: “As for Shenmue, I would have to say at this stage, it is worth forgetting about.

Bye Shenmue.

I'll always remember buying the first game because I was the only one to go into Toys R Us and ask for the title. They had to open to box just to get the game for me haha.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Well looks like Shenmue is dead ladies and gentlemen:

Shenmue Online cancelled, Shenmue 3 not happening as Sega’s franchise dies.

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It’s now been confirmed by Kikizo staff saying: “As for Shenmue, I would have to say at this stage, it is worth forgetting about.

Bye Shenmue.

I'll always remember buying the first game because I was the only one to go into Toys R Us and ask for the title. They had to open to box just to get the game for me haha.

Stupid talentless hacks at Sega mess up something else with tons of potential and leave us all hanging!

[Mashiro]

Honestly, I was amazed a sequel was even made. Shenmue 1 cost so much money to make, it was a heavy loss for Sega.

[Kairon]

...maybe someone should buy the Shenmue franchise off 'em?

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Honestly, I was amazed a sequel was even made. Shenmue 1 cost so much money to make, it was a heavy loss for Sega.

Sega still is stupid.

[Kairon]

If they're not careful, they'll go the way of Atari. Or has that already happened?

[GoldenPhoenix]

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If they're not careful, they'll go the way of Atari. Or has that already happened?

Well if they made some good games, like oh, SHENMUE ON WII!

[Mashiro]

Oh yeah Sega is still very stupid.

I don't understand, for example, WHY Shenmue II came out on Xbox and not PS2 which had a much larger user base.

I don't understand why Sega released a PAL version of Shenmue II for DC and then not release a US version.

Lots of dumb decisions.

[SixthAngel]

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Oh yeah Sega is still very stupid.

I don't understand, for example, WHY Shenmue II came out on Xbox and not PS2 which had a much larger user base.

I don't understand why Sega released a PAL version of Shenmue II for DC and then not release a US version.

Lots of dumb decisions.

I just assumed that MS game them a ton of money to bring all their franchises to the xbox when it first came out.  The Dreamcast had just died and the owners needed a new home, and the xbox could certainly use any support that would gain attention.  I had an xbox and that is the only reason I can see why Shenmue 2, Jet Set Radio Future, and Panzer Dragoon all came out for only the xbox early in its life.  Sega really needed money and ms gave them a fast pay check and a more guaranteed paycheck even if it hurt their franchises in the long run.  I even imagine that ms threw them a check to not release Shenmue DC stateside in order to get fans to buy the xbox, it helped push me into getting one.

I want a Jet Set Radio with wiimote painting ability NOW!!

[Mashiro]

If Sega was gievn loads of money from MS I guess it makes sense. But given the large user base for the PS2 it may have payed off more to release Shenmeue, JSR and Panzer Dragoon on it instead.

What's BS is NHL2k2 came out in Feb. 2002 for DC in America and Shenmue was published in Nov 2001 in Europe. Would it really have been that hard to distribute the game in NA for devoted fans of the platform and series? A slap in the face IMHO.

Oh and yes JSR needs to come out on Wii. Pronto.

[SixthAngel]

I think the decision hurt them in the long run too because these franchises could have been huge if they put them on another system that was not untested and was successful outside the US.  Their games just weren't a very good match for the shooter centric people MS seemed to be gunning for.  If they decided to make all their games for just the ps2 or even cube it would have been better because the fans would have realized where to go for Sega games instead of diluting their userbase across platforms.  Sega was never all that good with money and they were in the red so I think the quick dollar signs blinded their foresight.  Especially the Shenmue decision was a slap in the face to fans.  What happened seems very obvious to me and it is another thing that hurt them in the long run by chasing away supporters for the quick cash.  The company just lost their console and should have been trying to find a way to bring their fans with them into a new console audience instead of continually angering their dwindling fanbase with shortsighted decisions like the Shenmue one.

[Mashiro]

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I think the decision hurt them in the long run too because these franchises could have been huge if they put them on another system that was not untested and was successful outside the US.  Their games just weren't a very good match for the shooter centric people MS seemed to be gunning for.  If they decided to make all their games for just the ps2 or even cube it would have been better because the fans would have realized where to go for Sega games instead of diluting their userbase across platforms.  Sega was never all that good with money and they were in the red so I think the quick dollar signs blinded their foresight.  Especially the Shenmue decision was a slap in the face to fans.  What happened seems very obvious to me and it is another thing that hurt them in the long run by chasing away supporters for the quick cash.

I agree 100%.

Especially about the core audience thing with Xbox. I said it on these forums and you echo the sentiment in the above statements. It really hurt them in the long run as you said.

[SixthAngel]

Hopefully this generation Sega can get back on track making games with the money problems gone.  I don't really know how much of the old talent has since stayed on but they need to bring back some of the magic and uniqueness they had.  They had very ambitious and unique games like Shenmue and JSR that were very non-Nintendo.  Without Sega I don't see anybody else stepping up to the plate to challenge Nintendo (I don't mean sales), especially at the level and the amount of games that Sega made.  I see Nights being released for Wii as a good sign and it could restore some of my faith that they can get things right again and start supporting a system I think can embrace the way Sega has tried to be unique in the past.

Gunvalkyrie was a game basically designed with the wii remote in mind years before it came out.  If Sega still has these guys on staff they can easily pull off greatness on the Wii given the chance.  

[couchmonkey]

I think the newfound corporate attitude at SegaSammy will block a lot of unique game ideas from making it out this generation, unless they fit into the new-gamer mold (Love and Berry?)  Who knows?