Author Topic: Wii takes 6 of 10 on Famitsu's post-E3 Poll (Read 9440 times)

mantidor · « **Reply #25 on:** May 25, 2006, 11:01:27 AM »

Yes, I agree to the style over realism thing, thats why I see Wind Waker's graphics impossible to get old, but the "real" world looks great for me also, texture detail and polygon count are important but they are already pretty good, this isnt the N64.

thejeek · « **Reply #26 on:** May 25, 2006, 11:08:36 AM »

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Yes, I agree to the style over realism thing, thats why I see Wind Waker's graphics impossible to get old, but the "real" world looks great for me also, texture detail and polygon count are important but they are already pretty good, this isnt the N64.

I think the problem is that the human eyes and brain have a deep understanding of the real world and are extremely good at spotting flaws in representations of reality - particularly computer generated people and their movements and other natural objects. I think attempting true represention of reality in computer games is a bit of a waste of resources - I've got reality outside my window if I like (and while we're on the subject who on earth plays sports games when they could go outside and do it for real...)

Even Hollywood CGI occasionally fails to convince and they have mad hardware to throw at the problem without the constraint of having to do it in real time and dirt cheap. I think I approve to an extent that Nintendo don't want to throw my money at the problem - but I think they ought to stick to styles that work within the constraints of the hardware. Of course they'll be accused of making games only for kids if they do :-(

[EDIT:] To clarify, I'm not intending to critisize your opinion here - It's obviously all a matter of taste and you can't argue someone's taste - just saying that aiming for a realistic style that would satisfiy me is just not achievable with on any of the next gen systems

WesDawg · « **Reply #27 on:** May 25, 2006, 11:37:36 AM »

I think the game looks really really good. And it seems to play just like WW. I really don't get the complaint.

vudu · « **Reply #28 on:** May 25, 2006, 11:39:20 AM »

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Originally posted by: mantidor
What is shocking is that Zelda won over FF13, thats huge.

FFXII came out just a couple months ago. There hasn't been a new Zelda since the end of 2002 (in Japan). That's a big factor.

mantidor · « **Reply #29 on:** May 25, 2006, 11:45:28 AM »

its still FF, they actually chose FFX over Ocarina of Time as the best game of all time in one of the famitsu polls.

Requiem · « **Reply #30 on:** May 25, 2006, 11:48:55 AM »

WTF!

Are you serious?

I mean, the soccer mini-game was bazaar yet fun, but greatest game of all time? Hardly....

Super Mario Bros FTW!

mantidor · « **Reply #31 on:** May 25, 2006, 12:02:13 PM »

this was the top ten list

1. Final Fantasy X (2001)
2. Final Fantasy VII (1997)
3. Dragon Quest III (1988)
4. Dragon Quest VIII (2004)
5. Machi (1998)
6. Final Fantasy IV (1991)
7. Tactics Ogre (1995)
8. Final Fantasy III (1990)
9. Dragon Quest VII (2000)
10. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998)

the rest

Japan definately lost it.

IceCold · « **Reply #32 on:** May 25, 2006, 02:11:09 PM »

TP being too "realistic" or "generic" would be the last of my worries..

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What I find "interesting" is that the Sword DQ game ranked higher than Brawl... what gives?

And that Super Mario Galaxy was ranked so low.. with the splash that NSMB is making in Japan (looks to be even more popular than Animal Crossing), it should have been a lot higher.

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mean, the soccer mini-game was bazaar yet fun, but greatest game of all time? Hardly....

Super Mario Bros FTW!

Couldn't agree more

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #33 on:** May 25, 2006, 03:12:41 PM »

EVERYONE, STOP THINKING.

or rather, SEE SOME N64 MOVIES AND REMIND YOURSELVES HOW FAR GAFFIX COME SINCE THE GOLDEN YEARS

Louieturkey · « **Reply #34 on:** May 25, 2006, 04:07:07 PM »

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Originally posted by: Arbok
Ha ha ha ha... So Japan is more interested in a unstated Resident Evil game for Wii then they are RE5? Oh man, that's just classic.

Capcom, are you listening?

Just to be fair, RE5 was not shown in any form at E3 so they couldn't very well vote for it. This would have been much more impressive had RE5 actually been a game announced or shown in any form. It is neat though that on name alone, it became number nine on that list.

IceCold · « **Reply #35 on:** May 25, 2006, 04:50:09 PM »

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Capcom, are you listening?

With how badly RE4 did in Japan, I don't think they care about this..

ProzacMessiah · « **Reply #36 on:** May 25, 2006, 10:40:58 PM »

I don't much care how well it plays in Japan. Is there a similar poll of the North American audience?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #37 on:** May 25, 2006, 10:53:53 PM »

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Originally posted by: Artimus
What games are you looking forward to the most after seeing E3’s offerings?
1. Zelda (Wii, Nintendo)
2. Final Fantasy XIII (PS3, Square Enix)
3. Metal Gear solvent 4 (PS3, Konami)
4. Dragon Quest Swords: (Wii, Square Enix)
5. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii, Nintendo)
6. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii, Nintendo)
7. Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix)
8. Monster Hunter 3 (PS3, Capcom)
9. Biohazard series (Wii, Capcom)
10. Halo 3 (Xbox 360)

You did that on purpose.

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Originally posted by: Requiem
I mean, the soccer mini-game was bazaar yet fun, but greatest game of all time? Hardly....

Super Mario Bros FTW!

Wait, is it "replace random words" day or something?

thejeek · « **Reply #38 on:** May 25, 2006, 11:04:58 PM »

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EVERYONE, STOP THINKING.

That's the oddest bit of advice anyone's given me all day...

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SEE SOME N64 MOVIES...

I known what bad graphics are like - I used to have Asteroids for the Sinclair ZX81. It used numbers from 1 to 8 to tell you what direction your ship was pointing in! Things have moved on a bit since then.

Mario · « **Reply #39 on:** May 25, 2006, 11:15:26 PM »

This surprises me since Famitsu readers are pretty much 98% Playstation whores who only play Square and Konami games. It's also refreshing to see a Famitsu list where all the games aren't on PS2 except Mother 3.

Oh yeah, and Twilight Princess' graphics look amazing to me, and there are plently of Xbox 360 (almost all) that don't. Why I woudln't put it at the top is because it's not really a trade show game, and because they ruined the controls.

Strell · « **Reply #40 on:** May 26, 2006, 05:27:37 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k

You did that on purpose.

Did he?

At another forum I go to, someone posted this list, and it said "solvent" on there too.

Someone replied with "Some legends are meant to....dissolve."

Bloodworth · « **Reply #41 on:** May 26, 2006, 06:48:32 AM »

While the dungeon wasn't all that special, the water effects are very cool, and the area surrounding the lake in the fishing demo looks absolutely gorgeous.

IceCold · « **Reply #42 on:** May 26, 2006, 09:16:50 AM »

Yeah, I fell in love with the lake as soon as I saw that picture of Link fishing in the setting sun..

wandering · « **Reply #43 on:** May 30, 2006, 10:54:21 PM »

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Even Hollywood CGI occasionally fails to convince and they have mad hardware to throw at the problem without the constraint of having to do it in real time and dirt cheap. I think I approve to an extent that Nintendo don't want to throw my money at the problem - but I think they ought to stick to styles that work within the constraints of the hardware. Of course they'll be accused of making games only for kids if they do :-(

I agree..., but I don't think Twilight Princess is using a "realistic" style that doesn't fit the constraints of the hardware, like you say. Look at the people, the plants, the lighting. Nothing is 100% proportional, nothing is photo-realistic. The game looks more like a story book than Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within or whatever.

Requiem · « **Reply #44 on:** May 30, 2006, 11:02:58 PM »

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Originally posted by: wandering
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within

*shudders*

thejeek · « **Reply #45 on:** May 30, 2006, 11:09:01 PM »

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I agree..., but I don't think Twilight Princess is using a "realistic" style that doesn't fit the constraints of the hardware, like you say. Look at the people, the plants, the lighting. Nothing is 100% proportional, nothing is photo-realistic. The game looks more like a story book than Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within or whatever.

Having looked at the newer video and screens for TP, I'm happier with the style now than I was - I like the twilight effects.

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Author Topic: Wii takes 6 of 10 on Famitsu's post-E3 Poll (Read 9440 times)