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*previously thought ShyGuy was the vigilante due to the comments that he made on Day 2, but didn't aim for him yet cause we didn't see him as an immediate threat, we figured finding out the other roles was more important.
Actually that was because we didn't want to raise suspicion, I thought.
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Oh, Mystic, I have to ask, why did you betray the vampires?
What's up with this? Did Mystic know all their identities? Is that where we got the Pale suspicion from? I know BlackNMild suspected Pale for reasons of his own, I didn't suspect Pale though, but Mystic seemed to agree with BnM and I didn't know why, but I believed them.
Alright i'm gonna post my mafia journal I kept. Though I didn't keep one on Day 5 because it was too insane and I didn't have time, so I just wrote that now from what I remembered, and there's lots left out, and PM's are slightly edited.
Day 1Don't know much, not too into the game yet. Vudu is suspicious for his trainwreck posts. ShyGuy gets one suspicion point. Notes Pryo started bandwagon, SUPER, Stabby, Animerat, Toru, Pale, Icecold all follow. ShyGuy votes for animecyberrat, why? One vote isn't going to do jack after someone else has 5 votes, looks like he just voted to throw people off and avoid voting patterns if one of his fellow mobbers voted stevey. Dasmos votes stevey. Stevey makes interesting plea revealing he's the ghost. I don't believe him. He edits his post very quickly, I think he's the ghost now. BnM is doing a great job acting townie-ish.
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Day 2The serial killer (Vudu) is dead, good news, less ways one of us can die. I regret making my post how I did, even though it was sincere and if I was a townie I would have said the same thing, it just seemed a bit unnecessary and forced to the outside eye, as I read it over. Though I am doing all my posts very quickly without thinking too much, like I would as a normal townie, people can take anything the wrong way. In a way, while posting in the threads, I AM a townie, trying to figure out who the (other) mafia are. ShyGuys post after me give me a bit of a fright. Mystic comes in acting nicely innocent. TYP makes a post lacking logic, mafia suspicion. MaryJane comes in quickly with a lame reason and agrees. If either TYP or MaryJane turns out to be a vampire, the other goes high on the suspicion list. Pryo breaks up the TVMan bandwagon with a supposed other bandwagon. [why would he do that? Isn't the point of bandwagoning to just get a whole heap of votes on someone?]
BnM informs me ShyGuy is his pick for death, but it will probably change before tonight. I respond with this..
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Hmmm, ShyGuy would be a good person to keep quiet, but I think if he died one of us could be a suspicion, and I don't know if that's worth risking.
" Hmmm, either I'm getting better at this game or it's more obvious who the bad guys are this round."
He posted that right after my post, which means it seems like he was referring to me (or you, the post right before mine and the only other one in the thread at the time), so if he died, if people were smart enough they'd figure out that it was because one of us saw him as a threat, and it seems like the Vigilante isn't scared to go after anyone in this game after the quick Vudu execution, which means we've got to keep suspicion down to a minimum. [On the other hand, I quickly realised after typing this PM, if he DOESN'T die we could be even more suspicious if people are REALLY smart, because any other smart mafia group would have killed him to put the mafia spotlight on us]
Your call though, i'm probably looking too far into it, and I can't think of another person I want dead. It honestly doesn't matter who we kill though, it's us against everyone so a death of anyone is a plus for us, basically the goal we should have in doing our kills is to just avoid suspicion.
I think we need to kill Pryo soon though. We also need to figure out who the other mafia group is, so we can get rid of them and have total control over killings, i'm suspecting TYP right now, but i'm not sure. Pryo could also be mafia because he's starting bandwagons for no reason, which indicates he doesn't care who dies as long as its not one in his group. Icecold I also suspect for some reason, but this is totally baseless. It's still early so I could be wrong about everything i've just said, but I thought i'd share it anyway.
Killing Pryo tomorrow would be good bet, plus it would give us an excuse tomorrow to vote for TVMan. [Pryo stated "we'll kill TVMan tomorrow", I was going to make a case that TVMan killed Pryo to stop that happening]
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Day 3We find out Pryopizm is the ghost. I find it hilarious that both us and the Vigilante tried to take him out. I inform blackfootsteps of the finding, he replies asking how Pryo can be killed, I respond.
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He can be killed... but only if both us and the vampires both decide to take him out at the same time. He's going to be tricky to kill, we're going to have to wait until the vampires accidently try and kill him overnight so they learn of his identity as well.
Not sure which targets we should go after, mainly we need to avoid suspicion so we can't kill anyone who's shown suspicion towards us or anything, and when voting we have to make sure we don't reveal any patterns, so we can't always vote together. I'd say our best bet is to figure out who the Vampires are so we can kill all of them and gain complete control of the killings and get to kill every night. I suspect TYP and Icecold at the moment to be vampires, got any suspects yourself? It's still early days, it's about survival for now. Oh yeah, the Vigilante too, he's dangerous, he needs to die. Got no idea who he is, but he's certainly trigger happy, hopefully he ends up taking out a villager and himself.
Now I form a strategy within myself. If I publicly voice my suspicions for Pryo, neither the other mafia or the vigilante will see me as a threat. The vigilante will know i'm only voting for the ghost, and shrug, the other mafia group will be happy that i'm intent on casting eyes on people who are not them. Only Pryo will be unhappy, and he can't do anything cause he's just the ghost, and i'm confident any bandwagon he'd start against me in these early days would not go very far.
I question this method as I question how smart the vigilante may be. If he is very smart he'll notice that i'm only starting to vote for Pryo after that incident, and he could think i'm trying to make Pryos ghost status public so the other mafia will know and I can finish him. Then again, I don't see the ghost as much of a threat, and that's not how i'm thinking. Unless he's thinking that too... Now I just wish I had voiced my Pryo suspicion before the ghost incident.
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Day 4Alright, i'm in a pickle, for all the wrong reasons. Holy ****, too much to write for today. I've got damn notes and windows and chat convos all over the damn place. I suspect Pryo and HC both suspect me and HC will investigate me tonight, despite the front they are both putting up saying they trust me. BlackNMild does lots of sluething himself, together we find out a lot, and form a plan.
PM to blackfootsteps
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TYP is dead by voting tonight, Pale is dying tonight (BnM is sending Wandering the request right now). That's two vamps dead (hopefully Pale is one). I've become fake allies with Hostile Creation, he told me he's investigating Ty tonight. Tomorrow I fear Hostile Creation will investigate me, so i'm using my power as "The Moonster" to nullify all night actions tomorrow [ended up not doing this], which means we'll be completely safe tomorrow night. Then we need to find the last vampire (probably ShyGuy). The one thing I know about the Vigilante is that he hasn't contacted Pryo, which means he isn't too bright as that would be a free ally for him. I can't think who that would be, unless Pryo is lying. [It would have been sweet if I contacted him saying i'm the vigilante, but it was too late for that]
Also, Mystic may be a spy or a rat. Did you get a PM from Wandering stating that Mystic was Reinfeld who had allied with us? Apparently BlackNMild didn't, and I did.
As far as voting in the next few days, we're going to take it as it comes, and not start anything.
I've just found out that MaryJane may be the Vigilante, but i'm not so sure I believe it. I'll keep you udpated.
I now think Ty is the doctor [pretty much by elimation]. Waiting for HC to confirm it. I'm hoping he didn't investigate me tonight, but he probably did. I do not think I am going to survive the next few days. However I have faith our team will be triumphant, we wont settle for anything less than victory.
All the threats
Pryo - Big Mouth, Temporarily Invincible
Hostile Creation - Could find our identities
ShyGuy - Nobody else suspects him so he coudl live for a while
Ty - Doctor (?) could save people, killing him woudl mean it takes longer for us to kill others
MaryJane - Vigilante?
Mystic - Spy? Rat?
I don't have time to think more right now, i'll wait for tomorrow, if i'm still alive.
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Day 5WHOA! Icecold = vigilante, and he took out a townie too. Pretty good, I wish he would have taken out Hostile or Shyguy instead, that would have been perfect. Oh well, not everything can be perfect. Time to inform Wandering i'm using my power today.
The alive
* Blackfootsteps - Awesome
* BlackNMild - Awesome
* Mario - Awesome
* MysticGohan - Awesome
Dasmos - Unknown (Townie? Doctor?)
Hostile Creation - Threat / Seer
MaryJane - Dying by vote hopefully, no threat
Pryopizm - Threat / Ghost
ShyGuy - Threat
Ty - Unknown / Townie / Doctor
The game is as good as won for us. Good work team. Our goal now is to be the last 4 people left. Funnily enough, this is the furthest i've ever made it in a mafia game, and it's when i'm on the bad team, go figure. Not much else to think about, just have to let nature run its course. OH yeah BTW I think MaryJane is the last vamp now, dunno who ShyGuy is. Ok, apparently MJ is the tranny, thanks Pryo [Pryo says "I know MaryJane is good']. ShyGuy it is!
Pryo isn't gonna vote MaryJane, obviously it's going to be me. Yep, it is, and doctor Ty (?) as well. My focus now is just on helping my team mates as much as I can before I die. Pryo and co have to know at least one of them via process of elimination, but they can only kill one at a time, and time's running out.
... Alright, I decide I don't want to die, because I might not have to. It can't hurt to evaluate my options. I run through this plan with the team, this was my PM to everyone
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Alright, we're in a tight spot. I have a semi-plan! It's to vote off ShyGuy at the last minute. Pryo and Ty know i'm a werewolf, and they think BlacknMild is a Vamp. All voting for ShyGuy at the last minute means is that our identities become exposed, BUT, after we do this, it wont matter. This is an all out assault! If we do that and ShyGuy dies, we kill Pryo overnight. Right now from a top down view it all looks like this
* Blackfootsteps - Awesome
* BlackNMild - Awesome
* Mario - Awesome
* MysticGohan - Awesome
Dasmos - Unknown (Townie?)
Hostile Creation - Threat / Seer
MaryJane - Threat / Tranny
Pryopizm - Threat / Ghost
ShyGuy - Threat / Mafia
Ty - Threat / Doctor
If our plan today works, and we then kill Pryo overnight, the next day things will look like this.
* Blackfootsteps - Awesome
* BlackNMild - Awesome
* Mario - Awesome
* MysticGohan - Awesome
Dasmos - Unknown (Townie?)
Hostile Creation - Threat / Seer
MaryJane - Threat / Tranny
Ty - Threat / Doctor
4 / 4. Which means voting power on both sides is equal, except we have the upper hand as we can kill overnight.
Thoughts?
Now we all discuss how we're going to get the majority vote today, when it's 6 vs 4. We consider a number of things. One is to get HC to vote ShyGuy with us, but that wouldn't work, he'd believe Pryo over me. I PM Dasmos a bit of trickery to try and get his vote.
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Hey, the townies are in big trouble. There's obvious mafia voting in the thread right now, if they get this vote it's almost gonna be all over. I know you're a good guy via process of elimination. I know those are bad guys, and so is ShyGuy. We need to kick off another bandwagon on one of those before it's too late, vote Ty and i'll back you up, i'm getting more help as well.
This was made when BlackNMild voted against me along with Pryo and Ty, so Dasmos would look at the thread and see those three voting together and agree with me and vote Ty, then we'd all still vote ShyGuy at the end, but that would just be one less vote for me. 4 vs 5, that's close, MaryJane, ShyGuy and HC might not even vote, but we have to cover the worst possible scenario. There isn't much we can do to convince HC and MaryJane, so we think about contacting ShyGuy. He doesn't come online, so we leave him alone.
Mystic votes for me, it's shaping up pretty well. It looks pretty much like i'm a goner. I act this way towards Pryo on MSN, pretending that i'm already dead and not caring so he wouldn't suspect anything early and call backup or whatever.
Turns out Dasmos doesn't show up that day anyway, neither does ShyGuy and HC doesn't vote. We all put in our votes with 10 minutes to spare, easy win 4 > 3.
Pryo was annoyed, we were laughing! We decided to keep him alive for longer just to torture him, so we killed Ty that night instead. (If we killed anyone else we'd risk having them protected by Ty)
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Day 6Game is pretty much over, I put my vote in and go outside into the sunshine. Come back, we've won. All members alive, flawless victory!
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