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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2007, 09:38:41 PM »
The Illusionist - Edward Norton was great and the cinematography was fantastic. Otherwise, it worked about as well as most short stories with twist endings stretched out to feature length films...which is to say, not very well.

I haven't seen Prestige, though, so I can't compare.
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RE: Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2007, 04:49:25 AM »
Wandering is right, the Illusionist felt stretched; there was less meat to the story. Less meat = caring about the characters less. It was technically superb, but it needed more heart. Also, Michael Caine was in The Prestige and he is always a plus.

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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2007, 06:45:20 AM »
Im sorry, I havent seen the movie either thats the only part everyone talks about I thought it was commmon knolwedge.  
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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2007, 09:33:27 AM »
The Illusionist was good, but I am so sick of twist endings. It's like, I've seen Sixth Sense and Fight Club before, ya know? Srsly.

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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2007, 09:40:59 AM »
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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2007, 02:42:16 PM »
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Shy, I don't know how anyone could think The Prestige is better than The Illusionist. So spill and tell me why you think so.
I'm going to watch The Prestige this weekend, so I'll get back to you.

Although, I feel I must warn--I thought the Illusionist was rather hollow.  It was very well done (I especially enjoyed the cinematography; it was well acted and the overall story was entertaining), but I didn't feel any connection with the characters nor did I understand their motivations.  I thought the movie would have benefited greatly by adding some character development into the main characters.  Edward Norton's character didn't have any personality beyond what we saw on stage.  Okay, he's a mysterious magician, I can understand this if you want to argue it that way.  But what about Jessica Biel?  Why did she still have feelings for Edward Norton even though she hadn't seen him in twenty years?  And the Crown Prince was the epitome of a one-sided villain.  It's never as simple as "this dude's bad and you're not supposed to like him" but that's the way the audience was supposed to feel about him.
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RE: Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2007, 05:34:32 AM »
I watched The Prestige last night.  It was a very different movie than The Illusionist, but overall I liked it slightly better.  I thought The Prestige had some pacing issues and would have benefited had 15 minutes been removed from the middle section.  However, I think the story--especially the character development--was much better than in The Illusionist.  Neither Jackman's nor Bale's characters were straight-forward.  I empathized with Jackman's character, yet Bale was such a likable fellow you couldn't help but feel a connection towards him as well.

The ending:  I figured out that Bale's assistant was his twin brother about fifteen minutes before it was revealed at the end of the movie.  Despite this, I still really enjoyed the movie--especially the parts that made you think about them once the credits were finished.

Bale's entire life (lives) was one big magic trick.  There was almost no separation between his stage life and his personal life.  The idea that someone would give up half his life (the half posing as the assistant) for the sake of his art is fascinating.  I also really like those little moments that you didn't think too much about when they happened, but after you found out the trick it made you go "a-ha!".  (e.g. How Bale's wife would say that some days he loved her and some days he didn't.)

I also loved the lengths that Jackman went to in order to top Bale's trick that--in the end--turned out to be completed with a simple double.  He did the impossible (commission the creation of a cloning machine) and the unthinkable (kill himself every night).
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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2007, 07:48:38 AM »
I wrote a blog about the topic several months ago, which addresses the plot twists and formal elements of the two movies. I don't touch on character motivation too much, so it isn't a response to some of the good points you've raised here Vudu.  
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RE: Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2007, 04:04:36 PM »
I saw The Insider tonight.  It didn't change my opinion of Michael Mann one bit.
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RE: Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2007, 04:07:46 PM »

...The Oscars were today?!?

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« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2007, 04:52:48 PM »
This is an 8 month old thread.
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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2007, 08:21:34 PM »
The Oscars were today?  I thought that usually happened in February....
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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2007, 11:14:41 PM »
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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #38 on: November 29, 2007, 03:19:45 AM »
So I heard the Oscars were held recently. What's up with that??

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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2007, 03:27:19 AM »
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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2007, 06:55:43 AM »
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So I heard the Oscars were held recently. What's up with that??


Ya I don't know. I watch the debate last night, I didn't see anything about the Oscars. WTF is going on?

Maybe they lost their monetary support...
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RE:Michael Mann is the worst directror ever
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2007, 11:11:05 AM »
I liked the Prestige better, I'll take character development over Imagination Lands CGI any day.
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