Topic: Phil Harrsion: We didn't steal motion tech, Nintendo stole 3D!

[ruby_onix]

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I didn't know the bolded part, I thought they worked on it together until Sony worked through some loophole that Nintendo didn't like(apparently dealing with software)

There's a lot of misinformation out there about the SNES CD. When the two competing systems were both unveiled, reporters actually thought they were both the same unit, and they even combined the specs.

The N-Sider report above mentions the Nintendo/Phillips/Sony partnership that was eventually reached, and that Nintendo eventually canned the SNES CD a year later, but it fails to mention that Sony ripped up their contract and pulled out of the Nintendo/Phillips/Sony partnership one month into it (probably just long enough to get a look at the CD-i SNES CD's design specs). Just read Game Over (they might have it at your local library). That's the biggest source of reliable SNES CD info (and Nintendo info in general). Just about everything else is a derivative.

Sony had access to every scrap of documentation on the SNES, but Nintendo had no input into the original Play Station. Nintendo had no idea what Sony was even up to, until Sony started going after traditional Nintendo-supporting third parties (Square's Seiken Densetsu 3/Secret of Mana 2 and one of the Romancing SaGa games were originally made for Sony's version of the SNES CD, and had to be downgraded to fit on SNES carts), and one of those third parties ratted Sony out and told Nintendo what they were trying to do.

[Hocotate]

Sony just fails hard no matter how you look at it :p I lol'd after reading the article.... Its almost as if Sony is trying to lose this generation >_<

[wandering]

Phil Harrison has a point. Sony isn't ripping off the Wii, they're ripping off Kirby's Tilt 'N Tumble.

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Wow, so many ways to show that Sony never "invented" 3D.

I don't think he was trying to say Sony did...

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If Phil wanted to point out an advantage of the PS3 controller a better approach would be to draw attention to the fact that not only does it have motion control but it also retains the existing functionality of past controllers, thus ensuring that the existing model for games is still 100% compatible.

I think that's what he was trying to get at with the "industry-standard controller" comment.

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The best part of all of this is the fact that Nintendo has been taking the high road. All they've been saying is "Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery." It's beautiful.

"Historically we're always developing new things. We know Sony have had a lot of issues with their rumble feature and they've had to withdraw it - because they didn't innovate, they copied. With Nintendo, I'm trying to think of anything we've copied... but I can't." - David Yarnton

[JonLeung]

The only thing I can think of that Sony actually made was the Eye Toy.

But then again I never tried the Game Boy Camera, so I don't know what's that like.  And I recall Nintendo had this "Stage Debut" game that did involve a camera.  If that GameCube camera peripheral DID come out, it would be yet another thing Sony "borrowed".

Heck, maybe they got the idea from that anyway.

I thought I heard that there was a dog-raising game coming out for the PSP (though not by any branch of Sony themselves, I think...) and also Sony's own version of a brain-training game.  Sheesh.  Without a touch screen, they'll likely be crappy.

Not only do they copy ideas, they also can't copy them well.

[Frozen Atlantic]

That's a thought. Short of getting Phil Harrison to sleep with Kojima's wife, I can't think of anything Sony could do to make their hardware LESS attractive.

[EasyCure]

sony should completely buy out capcom and make mega man the official Sony Mascot and run ads with him blasting everyone and everything, then "assimilating" their powers into his, then turning into a giant PS10 at the end of the ads. (it would be a throw back to those ps2 commercials where they hyped the ps9 or something)

[JonLeung]

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Originally posted by: Hocotate
Sony just fails hard no matter how you look at it :p I lol'd after reading the article.... Its almost as if Sony is trying to lose this generation >_<

OMG MAYBE IT'S A CONSPIRACY.

Maybe some super secret uber video game company owns both Sony AND Nintendo (and maybe Microsoft and others).  Those other company names like "Sony" and "Nintendo" are just fronts!  And they make all this money when console wars rage up, maintaining the hype of video games and all that.  After the domination of the PlayStations these past couple generations, maybe this uber game company has decided that it's time for "Sony" to take the fall and give "Nintendo" the spotlight again.  And though "Nintendo"'s Wii is doing well, maybe they feel it won't kill "Sony"'s momentum fast enough, so they get people like Phil Harrison who supposedly work for "Sony" to say such blatantly stupid things until the PS3 bombs.

Unlikely?

Well, I just wonder how likely it is that all the Sony execs seem so deaf to what people have been saying lately about them.  Aren't any of them gamers themselves?  Come on!

If this keeps up, deliberate stupidity will seem more likely than all this silliness by mere chance.

EDIT: Okay, maybe that's a little harsh but it's like they're on top of the world with their PS2 and they've gotten complacent about it and don't seem to notice that they have the most to lose.  They think they can keep the momentum going - and honestly, they do have some - but in cases like this, you have to wonder if they realize that they'd be better off not saying anything since each time they do it kills their momentum some more.

[IceCold]

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and also Sony's own version of a brain-training game. Sheesh. Without a touch screen, they'll likely be crappy.

The Brain Training game already came out - it was made by SEGA, I think. And it actually did pretty well for a PSP game; it was probably bought by the same people wishing they had a DS..