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TalkBack / Re: Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem Still Exists
« on: Yesterday at 05:20:13 PM »
But...but...but Intelligent Systems couldn't possibly be working on 2 Fire Emblem games at the same time! That's what I kept hearing these past few weeks!
It's being developed by Atlus so I guess technically that's true.

I still think the game will be released if only because Nintendo would have quietly killed it instead of bringing it up again. Without a release window or any real evidence of its progress, it's possible (and probably a good idea) that the game was delayed for an early Wii U successor release.

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TalkBack / Re: Iwata on Wii U: Not Over Yet
« on: Yesterday at 05:14:15 PM »
The market for which "Nintendo games and that's it" is a selling point is, well, the Wii U userbase and that's it.  That's not sustainable.  Sorry, people want graphics that are actually comparable to competing consoles and they want games to be released on somewhat of a regular basis and actually want games made by companies other than Nintendo.  This concept of some additional system purchase to get your Nintendo games is a recent concept.  The company's legacy was built on consoles that actually had contemporary hardware and third party support.  In 2015, "it has Nintendo games" means jack ****, particularly when it means compromising everything else.  Nintendo is so inept at consoles now that the presence of their own games is the only selling point it has.  Plus what a "**** you" to their fans.  "Hey our product is almost completely worthless but it has the Nintendo games you can't live without so put up with all this other bullshit to get your precious Mario!"  Nintendo is cutting corners because they arrogantly think that "it has Nintendo games" is enough of a selling point to make up for everything else.  That didn't work with the Gamecube, which was more competent of a console than the Wii U, and it is failing hard here.

And if I want Nintendo games that make no effort to use up-to-date hardware.. I have the 3DS and it has third party support and everything.  I don't need to put up with the frustration of owning a Wii U while still getting my Nintendo fix.
These are all still very reductive (and repetitive) points which is why I can't take them seriously. Too much negativity, too much melodrama. You talk up PS4 often, but it isn't good enough to inspire you to buy one. I still can't make sense of that. You **** on Wii U so frequently, constantly declaring your defiance in avoiding it yet the competition you laud so much still isn't worth purchasing either. That's weird.
I don't think they really have a choice but to stick with Wii U for now. They can't afford to rush into a new system to replace it, they need to take their time and make sure they not only make a good next system but also have quality games available at and near launch. And so even if they do realise the mistakes with Wii U, they can't talk about them yet because they're still trying to sell the thing and make some money on it as they plan out what they will do next. They're in a tough spot, but I feel this is the best course of action.
Thanks, Mop it up. I agree. Wii U isn't a great console, but I think it's good enough to carry the company to a hopefully much better successor.

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TalkBack / Re: Iwata on Wii U: Not Over Yet
« on: Yesterday at 03:07:27 PM »
It's basically just a touchscreen controller and Nintendo first party games with graphics from at least five years ago.
That's terribly reductive. If you want to play that game, you can do so with PS4 and Xbox One as well.

"It's basically the same console from eight/nine years ago with better graphics but still worse graphics than most PCs today. Also, Destiny/Titanfall are overrated."

Not really a fair assessment of those consoles, is it? Wii U is far, far, far (far) from a perfect console, but it isn't without its merits. "Oh, it just has Nintendo first party games. Pfffffftttttt....." Except that's the entire point. They're well-known, highly regarded, and you can't get them anywhere else. Trying to downplay that just makes you sound desperate. And the fact that you're still harping on the graphics in 2015 is just sad. Let it go, Elsa.

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TalkBack / Re: Iwata on Wii U: Not Over Yet
« on: Yesterday at 02:15:26 AM »
This is standard PR talk, the safest of safe answers. It's straightforward without being overly optimistic. At the basest level, Iwata is saying, "We're still making games for Wii U." If anything, this is an unimportant quote masquerading as something bigger on a slow news day.

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TalkBack / Re: Wii U Sales Up, 3DS Sales Down In Third Quarter
« on: January 28, 2015, 07:47:30 PM »
Nintendo could last a lot longer than 10 years even while taking hefty losses. Nintendo's financial troubles are often greatly exaggerated. While posting losses is never good, Nintendo is built to withstand hard times. Its entire business is structured around turning profits quickly.

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TalkBack / Re: The Baffling Launch Plans of New 3DS in America
« on: January 23, 2015, 01:44:27 PM »
For anyone who can wait, Best Buy and Target have $30 off sales every few months. Buy a New 3DS XL at that price and the charger, and you still save $20. That's not such a bad deal.

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TalkBack / Re: Club Nintendo to Be Discontinued
« on: January 20, 2015, 06:39:48 PM »
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In any case, I don't expect the new rewards program to be (better), just simplified.
Jebus...

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TalkBack / Re: Club Nintendo to Be Discontinued
« on: January 20, 2015, 06:37:21 PM »
I have to wonder why they feel they need to make a whole new program rather than just improve Club Nintendo.
I think it's because Nintendo is trying to move people away from the Club Nintendo account itself. Just using the Nintendo Network ID renders Club Nintendo redundant and extraneous (if that's the direction Nintendo is going).

In any case, I don't expect the new rewards program to be, just simplified. I think it will be mostly, if not entirely digital which is fine by me. I don't have a lot of Virtual Console games, and if it extends to eShop titles, well, I don't have a lot of those either.

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TalkBack / Re: Club Nintendo to Be Discontinued
« on: January 20, 2015, 05:51:16 AM »
Well, Paper Mario has been offered before. I meant, it's not on the current list.

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TalkBack / Re: Club Nintendo to Be Discontinued
« on: January 20, 2015, 05:50:19 AM »
I hope they add more games that haven't been in rotation yet.
Yeah, I'd like Paper Mario.

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TalkBack / Re: Club Nintendo to Be Discontinued
« on: January 20, 2015, 02:59:11 AM »
Ehh, I disagree. The Club Nintendo year ends on June 30. That's should be the deadline for registering games. And there were a couple games/rewards I passed on in even the last few months that I probably would have redeemed coins for if I knew Club Nintendo was being discontinued. If those things don't show up again before the deadline, then yeah, Nintendo should have given more notice.

Not a huge problem. I'll deal. I can probably get like five or six eShop games with my remaining coins.

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TalkBack / Re: Club Nintendo to Be Discontinued
« on: January 20, 2015, 02:32:53 AM »
It would have been nice if Nintendo gave people a little more notice. I have over a thousand coins and I don't even know what there is to quickly spend it on. If nothing else, Nintendo should have allowed people to register games and rack up coins until the end of the Club Nintendo year at the end of June then give people a few months to spend the coins.

The only thing I can think of that can reasonably explain why Nintendo is axing Club Nintendo for a different rewards program would be better integration with the eShop. Say instead of exchanging coins on Club Nintendo for an eShop code, it'll all be handled on the eShop itself where you can get free games or discounts. So maybe the new rewards program is tied to your Nintendo Network ID instead of having two different accounts. Just my guess. I wouldn't mind that as that's one less thing for me to keep track of. Still, there should have been a smoother transition.

In any case, I suppose I better get cracking on registering all those games I was saving for next year. Boo/hiss

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I can't see it, can you?
Bottom left corner.
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You gotta admit it's a bit deceptive, at least.
Even the humidifier I bought a couple months ago clearly labeled the contents on the box. I've stated my thoughts numerous times in this thread. So I wouldn't call it deceptive (particularly since the box tells you what's included), just odd.

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TalkBack / Re: Limited Edition Zelda Statue Up for Pre-order Next Week
« on: January 17, 2015, 02:23:13 PM »
It looks good from what's shownbthough I probably can't justify the cost.

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At the same time, the uninformed father's ignorance and/or refusal to read the box is on him. I can't empathize with people who pass the buck on others. Is this worth the trouble for Nintendo? Probably not initially, but like all things, it'll blow over.

I'd definitely be annoyed by this if New 3DS required a completely different AC adapter than older models (like DSi) and didn't include one on top of that.

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TalkBack / Re: What Could Be Next for the Super Mario Amiibo Series?
« on: January 16, 2015, 09:53:06 AM »
No Daisy? This list is balderdash.

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Adrock always has criticisms for Nintendo.  He just chooses to also see the silver lining in it as well.
Thanks for the support. I try to see both sides of a situation. There's often a distinct difference between what I want as a consumer and what I'm offered. If I can't reconcile the two, I know I don't have to accept it. I'll gladly stand my ground until I get what I want (on the retailer side if need be) even if I can at least see where a Nintendo is coming from.

And sometimes, I can't. There isn't always a silver lining. Wii U's launch was collectively not good. The way Nintendo handled Swapnote and Flipnote was downright hostile. Nintendo's (typically decent) customer service regarding the girl who gamed the Fire Emblem Awakening/Shin Megami Tensei promotion was exceptionally poor.

In this case, I'm the exact person Nintendo is targeting by not including the AC adapter. I LOVE saving money, and I still think it wasn't worth not including it. I mean, I get it. This does benefit some people so I don't believe it was strictly for profit margins. Even as one of the people that benefits, I wouldn't have balked at getting another AC adapter and I would have been none the wiser anyway.
Adrock, I was just giving you **** I wasn't trying to be mean.
No prob.

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I used to trade them in then I realized I prefer playing that system's games on the system it was made for. I kept my DSi because I didn't like all the nothing on the 3DS' larger screens. When I go back and play DS games, I can play it on an actual DS. Also, I just think it's nicely designed.

I'll deal with a digital future when the time comes, but as long as my old hardware works, I'll keep using it.

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At least that was industry practice this is not this is a strange move there is no defending it, except Adrock who never sees any faults with Nintendo.
That's not even remotely true...
I'm not even defending Nintendo's choice not to include the AC adapter. I think it should be included out of principle, but I don't really see the cost being the problem.

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You're missing the point. Nintendo could have forced that $10 on everyone if it wanted. It could have found a way to get that money one way or another. If not the AC adapter, it could have done so by increasing the price or cutting something else. The AC adapter is just something tangible that people can latch onto. "I don't want to pay for something I need to use the system." Fair. At the same time, I could claim, as a DSi owner with a perfectly functional AC adapter, that I don't want to pay for something I already have.

I'm not even defending Nintendo's choice not to include the AC adapter. I think it should be included out of principle, but I don't really see the cost being the problem. That's specifically what I disagree with. These companies make a killing on all kinds of things that we openly accept. We've dealt with this stuff before. The vast majority of Gamecube games required a memory card (unless you didn't want to save or advance) yet nobody really complained that one wasn't included with the console.

And $209.99 would be an unorthodox MSRP, but is it really that different from some of the others we've seen? The original Gameboy launched at $89.95. That's a pretty arbitrary number. 2DS launched at $129.99.

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This is just a lame excuse to make people spend $10 seperatly to buy the charger.
I don't really agree with this. If Nintendo wanted to make people spend $10, it could have included the charger and set the price of the unit $10 higher.

I still have my DSi so I have a charger. This works out for me (though I'd want another one just in case). Granted, I still think Nintendo should have included the charger, even if it charged more. I merely disagree with the notion that Nintendo is nickle and diming people. If it really wanted to force people to spend that money on a charger, it could have done so very easily.

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At first, it seemed like I clicked into the wrong funhouse then I realized that this is in the funhouse because almost everyone in this thread is somehow Ian Sane. Carry on.

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Responds to New 3DS Release Questions
« on: January 14, 2015, 06:41:17 PM »
NOA is keeping the New 3DS off shelves to sell the dated original 3DS model instead?  That's idiotic.  Just discontinue the old inferior model.
Existing inventory doesn't suddenly disappear just because a new model is released. There's bound to be some overlap and retailers, that collectively balked at carrying SKUs for different colors, probably don't want five variations of essentially the same product for any duration of time. It makes sense to sell New 3DS XL because the XL models tend to sell better. The standard New 3DS also has those faceplates. Do retailers want to carry those along with all the other 3DS stuff?

And keep in mind, Nintendo already did something like this six ago, and DSi wasn't a resounding success. It was just "another DS" stores carried so I can definitely see retailer pressure having a hand in this decision. If Nintendo of America was put in the awkward position of taking back all the standard 3DS models to make room for the standard New 3DS, I can't blame it for thinking, "Well, F that. Let's clear inventory then we'll think about releasing the new one here."
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Right now NOA should not be manufacturing any old 3DS's (except maybe the 2DS) and sending them to stores.  It should be the New 3DS or nothing.  All old models should just be the pre-existing store stock getting cleared out.
Well, that isn't really Nintendo of America's call since it doesn't manufacture hardware. The original 3DS models may (and probably will) get discontinued later this year, but I'm not sure what the rush is. Nintendo of America would be replacing the model that sells less than the XL model with a different model that sells less than the XL model. It's less of a priority.

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Responds to New 3DS Release Questions
« on: January 14, 2015, 04:27:12 PM »
Doesn't the XL routinely outsell the standard model like everywhere? I like choices and I certainly advocate the release of the standard New 3DS here, but I get the reasoning here. When people upgrade, they typically move up, not across whenever possible. The last thing Nintendo of America wants is to be stuck with a bunch of standard 3DS and standard New 3DS. Maybe it will try to clear inventory of the standard 3DS, drop it entirely, then introduce the standard New 3DS in modest quantities. A Q4 launch at $150 could do some damage this holiday season.

New 3DS is primarily meant for Japan. It's the Monster Hunter/Amiibo 3DS that doesn't need peripherals like the Circle Pad Pro or NFC reader/adapter. Given the performance of DSi in the West, Nintendo of America's approach is hardly surprisingly. It likely expects most sales to be upgrades from either model (which would explain why there's no AC adapter when it insisted on including one with the original 3DS XL despite the AC adapter being sold separately in Japan), and many of those who wanted the standard New 3DS may just deal with it and get an XL. That's admittedly kind of shitty, but I can't imagine this applies to too, too many people. Weighing the options, it went with the one that's best for business like it should. Additionally, I believe Reggie revealed that retailers are not too fond of all the different SKUs. They may not want to carry five different 3DS models.

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The Nintendo Direct was fine. Informative, but nothing earth shattering.

I kind of want that Lucina Amiibo, but I won't go to the ends of the earth to attain one. I would have purchased a Daisy Amiibo immediately, maybe even two.

I was disappointed in the New 3DS colors though I've mentioned that in other threads. I'm sure there will be more colors in the future so if nothing else, this makes it easier for me to stay away. I need new tires for my car which is more money than I feel like spending so I shouldn't be purchasing something I essentially already have and don't need anyway.

Splatoon is looking nice though I don't know if I'll ever buy it. The game doesn't look that fun single player which is mostly how I'd play it at home. My friend will be buying the game so I can just play it at his place.

I haven't seen the entire Xenoblade Chronicles X footage, but what I saw was nice.

Fire Emblem was a surprise though I've yet to put significant time in any Fire Emblem. I really shouldn't be thinking about buying other games. I'm still at the beginning of Bayonetta.

I'm excited for Majora's Mask 3D though I'll wait for a sale and probably pick it up alongside Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker. That should give me time to not play Bayonetta.

I might buy Metroid Prime Trilogy just for the sheer value of buying three great games for $10. Then again, I already have Metroid Prime Trilogy and all three games separately. I just realized how ridiculous this sounds.

The Mario vs Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars crossbuy is an important milestone for Nintendo. We can rag on how long this took Nintendo and how it's only for one game (for now), but we finally have it and this could be the start of what will hopefully be crossbuy for all Nintendo games available for both console and handheld, Virtual Console and eShop.

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