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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo: No Additional Switch Information In 2016
« on: October 20, 2016, 10:09:35 PM »

Just because Nintendo tweeted today that there will not be anymore information until the end of the year, doesn't mean that decision will stick.
Nah, it's going to stick. Otherwise, why tweet it at all? 
It is not Nintendo's style to reveal and talk about specs.
Maybe that's why it should this time.
It is also not Nintendo's style to talk about games that won't be available to play until next year.
Ehh, Nintendo does this all the time. For example, it announced Xenoblade Chronicles X in January 2013, nearly three years before finally releasing the game. Same goes for Breath of the Wild.

It's a domino tile dropped in an empty room or at least with an echo effect added to it.

TalkBack / Re: Nintendo: No Additional Switch Information In 2016
« on: October 20, 2016, 09:23:51 PM »
I don't think that was really the impetus for releasing the reveal trailer. Eurogamer and Emily Rogers leaked Switch to all hell in late July. Nintendo never seemed like it was in a rush.

That said, I don't have any confident guesses either. Maybe Nintendo doesn't want to over-promise launch titles. Then again, delaying games has never been a problem for the company. Maybe some things aren't finalized. Nintendo will have to start manufacturing Switch by December or January so it's cutting it close if changes are still being pitched/considered.

Oh boy, sounds like details may be scarce until the new year:

Nintendo: no more official announcement would come this year on 1) game titles 2) spec details, including region-lock status.
Wait, there it is. There's Nintendo Nintendo-ing a great situation it Nintendo'd itself in. That was a close one. Nintendo almost did something completely right.

Nintendo Console Discussion / Re: Official Switch Game Announcements
« on: October 20, 2016, 06:49:03 PM »
C'mon, this isn't like that Wii U E3 sizzle real.

Skyrim is prominently featured in the friggin' switch reveal video and Bethesda is listed as one of the developers onboard. There's absolutely no way that isn't a real game. I have no idea why Nintendo wouldn't let them officially announce the game, but as was pointed out they haven't even officially announced anything besides Zelda, which was already announced. We also haven't seen any other companies come out and announce Switch titles. They appear to be holding back until the full launch showcase, for whatever reason. Hopefully it's soon.

I just rewatched the Wii U sizzle reel from E3 2012. Dirt, Alien: Colonial Marines, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Online, and Metro: Last Light never made it to Wii U. All four were shown right in a row after Darksiders 2. In the case of Metro: Last Light, its developer, 4A Games, even openly mocked Wii U before the port was cancelled.

Right now, to be fair, this is almost exactly like the Wii U E3 2012 sizzle reel. I can't see NBA 2K17 releasing on Switch. The season is almost over at that point. It's encouraging that Bethesda is even on record to support Switch, but after it backtracked on confirming Skyrim, I'm not ready to believe the game is really coming to Switch until pretty much when I see it in stores. The reaction to portable Skyrim has made the most noise out of any of these games from the reveal trailer so that's something.

I don't think that's so much speculation as it is an inevitability. I believe Iwata even hinted at that over the years. Our concept of hardware generations is likely over. Upgrading hardware won't be so rigid. Every couple years we'll get a spec bump. Sure, games will be compatible, but at some point, they'll stop playing as well on older iterations like 3DS. Games like Hyrule Warriors Legend and Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate just run smoother on New 3DS. We'll see the same on Switch which we're already seeing on PlayStation and Xbox.

Is that better? I don't know. I liked how I didn't have to worry about upgrading for like five years. However, the writing was on the wall. Dedicated gaming hardware can't keep up with PC, particularly handhelds like 3DS which was running 2000 level hardware on 240p resolution. That worked for Nintendo which, before 2016, only made games on its own hardware. For the rest of the game development community, developing on consoles was incredibly restrictive. And that includes Sony and Microsoft.

Nintendo Console Discussion / Re: Switch is actually a good name
« on: October 20, 2016, 04:22:48 PM »
Depends on what you mean by "good."

The name itself is boring, but it also isn't confusing and doesn't really need to be explained, so it should be good for the mainstream market. And enthusiasts like us won't let a boring or lame name stop us from buying it.
I've been saying for years that Nintendo just needs a boring name. It's just what we call it so there's no need to get cheeky with it. Nintendo made a habit of having a weird, pretentious philosophy behind its product names. What especially works about "Switch" is that the philosophy is actually self-explanatory. The player is switching from home to mobile on a whim. For Nintendo, it is not only switching back to the basics after 12 years of dual screens and motion controls but also changing how it has done business for nearly 30 years. Once the 3DS well dries up (which should be within the next year), Nintendo will have one hardware product line for the first time since 1989.

Nintendo did all that in a three minute video devoid of self-aggrandizing about how fucking clever it thinks the name is. Maybe that comes later. Right now, I think Nintendo did it right with the reveal.

I see that you're trying to make me sound like a moron by dismissing my opinion. I respect your decision.
You're not a moron. I get what you're saying now. To clarify, claiming your Wii U games are defunct is inaccurate which is what caused the confusion. You plan on ditching Wii U so you wouldn't be able to play the games anymore since Switch doesn't have an optical drive. You ridding yourself of a perfectly functional console doesn't render the games you're keeping non-functional which is what defunct means.

Considering so few games used the second screen aspect of the Gamepad effectively, I doubt it'll be difficult to bring those games to Switch.

That doesn't make the discs defunct. They'll still work on a Wii U.

I think one factor in selling to children / parents will be price. I imagine there must be some sort of handheld-only version they're going to sell, so that they can have a lower-price option for the parents who want one. The downside though is that it also means they need to sell the dock separately, so that means three different pieces of hardware on store shelves.

I guess at launch they could stick with just the combo, especially if the price is low enough, but there will probably be a handheld-only one eventually.
Yeah, I can see a 2DS-like, stripped down Mini Switch down the line. That still doesn't address the higher cost of games though.

How the **** do you market this thing to kids?
I think marketing to kids will happen organically. In the near future, Switch and smartphones will be the only things kids can get Mario on. Super Mario Run is marketing for Super Mario Switch. Every time a parent can't deal with her annoying kid and hands him/her their phone to play Nintendo's mobile games, Nintendo is marketing to kids. Additionally, it will market through Facebook, Twitter, Universal Studios and whatnot, and it'll naturally reach a younger audience easier. Soon, there will only be one place to get 95% of Nintendo's first party titles. The people Nintendo should be targeting are those who aren't already invested in Nintendo's ecosystem or no (longer) have an attachment to its IPs.
Also, isn't the name Switch a big middle finger from Nintendo to AMD?

I always felt like Wii U was mostly marred by the fact that AMD gave them a mediocre graphics chip and gave Microsoft and Sony really good ones. The Wii U had a slow CPU too, but that could have been made up for if it had a graphics chip on the same level as the XboxOne. Now switching to nvidia might give Nintendo some advantages/priveleges. The N in Nvidia now stands for Nintendo. Hopefully, this will be a console of envy by the other console makers.
AMD didn't give Nintendo a mediocre graphics chip so much as Nintendo asked for one. I don't believe Switch is a slight against AMD at all. This is nothing more than AMD not having a mobile SOC let alone one as advanced as Nvidia's.

TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Gives First Details Of Nintendo Switch
« on: October 20, 2016, 11:15:58 AM »
I doubt Nintendo wants any Wii branding anywhere near Switch. Yeah, we'll likely get a port of Wii Sports Club and so on. Otherwise, I'm leaning toward Nintendo releasing Switch Remotes.

That reminds me. What the hell is RETRO making?
Metroid: Federation Force HD.

I go through this literally every generation I've had money to buy hardware on my own. It's easy for me to hold off on handhelds. I didn't get a DS or 3DS at launch because I'm not a handheld gamer. With consoles, I tried convincing myself I didn't want Wii and Wii U at launch then changed my mind close to release. I know better now. I'm planning on buying Switch at launch because that's where I project my head will be in March. The only difference is my gaming habits have changed so by chance, I can't procure one at launch, I'll get it when I get it.

Day one.

Is anyone else as excited as I am for the return of cartridges?
Probably more so. I've been thumping the cartridge card for over a decade. It's so nice to see them return.

I'd be shocked if Switch didn't have a touchscreen. My guess is Nintendo wanted to focus on core games and the unit itself, and any touchscreen use in the trailer would immediately remind people of Wii U. Smart.

I can see Switch doing 3DS numbers if Nintendo doesn't price it out of acceptability. I'd like to see it no more than $300 with the dock.
That is what I just said. The SNES sold about 55 million, isn't the 3DS sitting around there too or has it climbed higher than that? I was saying that is the minimum, the bar has been set. It will easily do higher I think, maybe as high as 90 million if they keep the games coming quick enough.
Yeah, I was totally just agreeing with you, dude. Nice post though.
DeNA will be involved with Nintendo's account system, not necessarily making games for Switch.
I'm impressed that EA and Bethesda are on there. If Nintendo and Bethesda really want to make a splash, Skyrim (and I presume this is the Special Edition) should be no more than $30.

NVIDIA additionally created new gaming APIs to fully harness this performance. The newest API, NVN, was built specifically to bring lightweight, fast gaming to the masses.
I didn't need clarification. I already read Nvidia news thing. I was merely commenting on how Nintendo is a contributor of the Khronos Group that created Vulkan so I expected Nintendo to use that API.

NVIDIA handling the API themselves is very reassuring.
Hmm, I was under the impressed that Nintendo was going with Vulkan though I suppose it still can. Nvidia's handling this does go back to the Semi Accurate rumor from May which posited that Nvidia was giving Nintendo a ton of support just to get its business.

Switch is so thin. I'm thoroughly impressed by the design and engineering. It's very clean and simple, similar to the DSi. Nintendo really stepped up its game here.
I think it will easily do closer to SNES levels in terms of sales. After all this effectively combines the handheld userbase and the console userbase which is easily sitting at 55 million give or take total.
I can see Switch doing 3DS numbers if Nintendo doesn't price it out of acceptability. I'd like to see it no more than $300 with the dock.

Overall, I like it. I don't mind the name. It's one syllable and easy to pronounce.

I don't like the detachable controllers for reasons already stated, but I don't have to use it that way so that's a wash. I'm mildly disappointed that Nintendo went full-on Xbox One with the standard controller because I really liked the Wii U Pro Controller set-up. I understand due to the set-up, but it looks like it could get messy. I like the Xbox One controller so I'll live.

It still kind of bugs me that the touchscreen gets docked. I wonder if the Chromecast-esque streaming rumor is true.

Yep, this is day one for me.

Ehh, I'm not taking anymore screenshots if you're going to do them. Carry on. Any mods want to merge these threads?
- Black matte colored

Nintendo Console Discussion / Nintendo Switch
« on: October 20, 2016, 07:08:05 AM »
Nintendo Switch

I'll update this with screenshots from the reveal video.


The new standalone controller:

This **** that's going to break off every unit.

Game Card slot and cowardly Headphone jack:

Whatever the **** this game is:

Nintendo Selfie-Stick™:

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