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The Pokemon Company Will Make Games for NX, Confirms Water is Wet

Also, Tsunekazu Ishihara basically just confirmed a hybrid of sorts:
The NX is trying to change the concept of what it means to be a home console device or a hand-held device. We will make games for the NX.

Maybe if it was rebranded. Outside of Virtual Console, get the Wii name as far away from NX as possible.

The point I was trying to make is that it wouldn't make sense for Nintendo to make a perfect arcade controller for what is intended to be a handheld device. Players would have to "settle" for a D-pad which is contradictory to having exchangable controllers built for a specific game. Same goes with Super Smash Bros. Ultimately, a GameCube layout still isn't a GameCube controller. Therefore, what is the point of all these attachments if they don't serve the purpose they're intended to serve.

I've yet to hear a compelling argument in favor different attachments. They all sound great on paper until you really start thinking about why it wouldn't work in practice. Would they really, really be better than a basic traditional layout?

General Chat / Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:16:01 PM »
don't take it so seriously, forgive some of the effects and "hand-waving"  and its actually becomes entertaining.
I don't watch a lot of television. I have a finite amount of time to devote to shows so I want to make it count. I have heard good things about the Flash crossover outside of NWR so I'll try to stick it out. Supergirl is riddled with problems. Individually, they're tolerable. Collectively, they're distracting. Casting for Jimmy Olsen is such an infinite facepalm.

A perfect arcade controller would have a stick, not a D-Pad. Not even Super Smash Bros. tournament players would really benefit from a GameCube layout because they're not playing the game on a handheld let alone without a GameCube controller so long as Nintendo keeps making that an option, and there's no reason to believe it won't.

General Chat / Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
« on: September 18, 2016, 01:44:57 PM »
I'll have to pay more attention to Benoist's flying-really-fast face. I didn't think much of it. I expected her hair to be blown back more. Then again, no one's face would ever look that calm and good-looking when traveling that fast.

Some additional thoughts:

1. It's nice to see Chyler Leigh still getting work.

2. Are they setting Hank Henshaw up to eventually be Cyborg Superman? I suppose if the DC TV Universe (is there an official name for this?) ignores the Death of Superman storyline, it doesn't matter if Henshaw is black. Otherwise, the whole Henshaw pretending to be Superman to destroy his reputation doesn't work.

3. My understanding is that Winn created Supergirl's costume. It's damage resistant and bulletproof except the cape isn't? It sounds like the writers really wanted Supergirl's cape to be Kal-El's blankie but had no real explanation for why that needed to happen.

4. Why is Winn working at a magazine? And how is he getting all of this high-tech stuff?

5. Winn also hacks into local and federal government computer systems without any apprehension as if he doesn't face decades in prison if he's caught. He's just using his work computer. I suppose the power of boners really is that strong.

6. It's weird to me that Kara, James, and Winn openly talk about Kara being Supergirl in front of fucking everyone all the time, and only Alex is like, "Hey, maybe don't?"

7. Way to give up Superman's identity like it isn't a matter of global security, James...

8. Calista Flockhart is trying really hard to impersonate Meryl Streep's impersonation of Anna Wintour. She's not doing a bad job; she's not doing a great job either.

9. I don't know why Supergirl ever moves at regular human speed when fighting bad guys. I know they're limited by budgets, but it's still weird and inconsistent. Also, she just watches Reactron fly away and doesn't even bother to attempt to chase after him.

I don't know if I'm going to finish watching this show. There are a lot of little things that are just annoying me. Unlike other shows, Supergirl didn't draw me in from the beginning so I don't have the same urge to continue.

General Chat / Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
« on: September 17, 2016, 10:49:28 PM »
I started watching Supergirl because it's on Netflix, and I got tired of hate-watching The Walking Dead.

Supergirl is okay. Some of the effects are good, some are bad. Some of the acting is good, some is bad. Melissa Benoist is fine as the titular character. She could stand to learn how to throw a punch though I'm undecided after two episodes if that's the point. If, by the middle of the season, she still doesn't look like she knows what she's doing, it's going to get really hard to finish this.

I know changing a characters' race tends to be a sticking point with people (see Zendaya rumored as Mary Jane which I could go off on*). For me, it's one of those things that I think, "Hmm, that's kind of weird" since I'm used to picturing a character a certain way then I get over it. That said, my issue with Jimmy Olsen isn't that he's a black dude; it's that he's this tall, good-looking dude. I'm getting the impression that Mehcad Brooks was cast because he's an attractive man who can easily be "shipped" with Kara later. There's already a budding love triangle with Winn. Jimmy Olsen is written as this handsome, confident man. How did they get everything about Jimmy Olsen wrong? Olsen is the quintessential dork; he isn't supposed to be cool.

I think that's my main issue with the show. Unless the writers are setting up one hell of a red herring, they changed a beloved fan favorite entirely for a romantic payoff later. Supergirl feels like it's pushing hard for a female audience that probably isn't there, and it reeks of studio executive interference. Since the lead is female, it's as if they felt the show has to be a certain way so it's filled with cliches and tropes that just infuriate me because it's 2016 and everyone should know better. I wasn't a huge fan of Jessica Jones, but I liked that it respected the source material and the writers didn't feel the need to make it "girly" just because it focuses on a female character.

Otherwise, Supergirl is merely okay so far. I'm having difficulty taking Laura Benenti (Alura/Astra) seriously because her Melania Trump impersonation was dead-on, but that's no fault of the show.

*side-note: I didn't want to go on a tangent about Zendaya. Maybe I'll post my thoughts in the Marvel thread

You'd think at some point they'd know how long it'd take to make a game.
It's more that Nintendo doesn't anticipate tossing out large portions of its games (particularly Zelda) and starting over. There's no way to anticipate that, and no way of telling how long that sets development back. That said, I suppose one has to wonder why Nintendo doesn't work a potential delay into production and stop announcing big titles until a game is in the home stretch of development.

General Chat / Re: Um, Apple thread
« on: September 16, 2016, 12:59:24 PM »
I plan on upgrading my new iMac's memory to 32 GB. Is that overkill?

I've gotten to the point where I actually want NX to be Tegra-based only because of how smug and condescending SuperMetalDave64 has become in his videos. I've unsubscribed to his channel because he turned into such an intolerable **** when discussing NX. Otherwise, I don't care what SOC is powering NX. I just want to witness the shitstorm descendeth upon SMD64 and his channel for lulz purposes.

This thread has stopped being relevant about 10 pages ago.
Welcome to NWR. Thread derailment is just another Wednesday.


It was easy to get SNES-level of support when a company had a near monopoly on an entire industry for the better part of 10 years. Anyone longing for a return to those glory days is out of touch with reality. While there are plenty things Nintendo can do better to improve third party support today, the kind of support people think Nintendo can just pull out of a hat is unrealistic. Sony and Microsoft do things Nintendo is unwilling or unable to do. It isn't wise for Nintendo to launch a $400 to $500 console. While Nintendo will pick up a dead or struggling project, it won't get into a bidding war. Nintendo would like 10 of those to potentially make a difference on its platform. I wouldn't blame any company for not wanting to take those odds. Sony and Microsoft regularly do; Nintendo won't. For better or worse, it lives (and dies) by its own output.

The skull looks worse than the car. I don't mind the car even though I'd much, much, much rather see the motorcycle.

Nintendo Console Discussion / Re: The Wii U is a mess of a system
« on: September 13, 2016, 02:30:11 PM »
You're in luck because NX apparently has detachable controllers you will inevitably lose when they aren't overcomplicating the simplicity of a self-contained portable gaming system.

In all seriousness, I'm in favor of Nintendo starting over completely which includes no legacy controller support. The Wii U Pro Controller is overall my favorite controller ever and I'm admittedly cheap, but I think it's better for Nintendo. One main controller. The GamePad variant must have the same layout/feel (particularly the shoulder buttons). Wii Remotes must be remodeled, rebranded, and downplayed as "classic" controllers. Oh, the delicious irony of labeling it "classic" and pushing it to the side.

A handheld that plays games on par or better than Nintendo's current console which can still be displayed on a TV with a simple HDMI cable is very exciting to me. That's Nintendo bringing things back to basics. Nintendo doesn't need controller gimmicks, or if it insists, the controller doesn't have to be the main selling point. Nintendo proved that with DS/3DS. Its greatest gimmick was always its own first party output. Now, sell the hardware cheap and that's a good start. It isn't a great one because there's still much work to be done: the operating system has to load instantaneously, the marketing has to make sense (and be existent), Nintendo Network has to matter, myNintendo has to be deeply integrated, the netcode has to sing, Virtual Console can't be a colossal clusterfuck like it is now etc.

Going mobile as a means of marketing is a great idea. Nintendo is giving Apple and Google 30% of its mobile sales to remind people Nintendo exists. All the people who already play Mario aren't going to stop just because they can get an endless runner starring Mario. It's for the people who said, "What's a Wii U?"

Apps like Netflix and Amazon are nice (and Nintendo really needs those sports apps), but I rather like the idea of getting to the title screen of a game within 10 seconds of booting up the system. If Nintendo made that an option, that's the biggest message it could send. That's a perfect way to push the idea that there's no play like NX.

Hmmm... So you're proposing that Nintendo may focus their efforts on hand-held development with upscaling coming automatically on the console? I can see that.

I was thinking the opposite. Nintendo would focus on developing for their home console and downgrading their graphics for the hand-held. But if hand-held development includes making games like BotW, then I see no problem with your idea.
If NX is two to three times more powerful than Wii U, handheld and console development for the company is indistinguishable. Very few of its first party output is natively 1080p anyway such as a Super Smash Bros. Nintendo can still develop games with 1080p assets and they'll naturally look better on a larger display. If NX has a 720p display, that likely remains the target resolution for most of its games. Nintendo will likely use the extra processing power on things like better frame rates and reducing pop in.
So the x1 gets incredibly hot? Hmmm....that's going to make the hand-held quite expensive. I was thinking for both the console and hand-held it'd cost $500.
Heat isn't what makes a system on a chip expensive. Maxwell/X1 isn't a great mobile chip when pushed for performance. That's why it would benefit Nintendo the go with Parker. It can the get same or slightly better performance with much greater power efficiency.

As for cost, the first Tegra-NX rumor stated that Nvidia gave up the farm to get Nintendo's business. The thinking was Nvidia wanted Tegra in a product that could show what its SOC can do. The loss it would take to get Nintendo's business (e.g. a semi-custom design, all the support, the kitchen sink etc) paled in comparison to what it stood to gain by selling its designs to other, much larger companies (e.g. car manufacturers). Apparently, Nvidia's margins from consoles were never great. It had burned bridges with both Microsoft and Sony so Nintendo was the only one left to pitch to (and really, it made the most sense as Nintendo is the only company in need of a mobile SOC). There was another rumor years back that Nvidia almost had a deal to get Tegra in 3DS, but it couldn't provide the yields Nintendo wanted so Nintendo went with DMP. This time, Nvidia has more to gain with Nintendo being more a means to an end.

...but if the controller is dead, then you weren't going to be using them to play anything anyway.
and it's not like it still couldn't charge independently if needed. The solution to that problem would be to include inductive charging for ease of use and less wires and ports to connect them to.
A dead battery is universal. That's not really the problem. The messaging is confusing. And there's no way Nintendo includes three separate AC adapters for independent charging. Sure, it's convenient sometimes. However, as previously stated, Nintendo would be added weight and cost for the option to use shittier controls.
But I think that's the beauty of that design. It is simple. A screen with controllers that detach.
You can do so much with so little. It's simple, yet it's also sophisticated by giving you options to play many types of games in many types of ways with nothing more than what came in the box. A screen with controllers that detach.
I don't think that's simple at all. Nintendo would be adding different parts that detach and need to be charged and can get lost. Some games use them, some don't. That's a marketing nightmare, and I don't know if I trust Nintendo enough to pull that off.

I've never been sold on the hybrid concept, but if Nintendo is going to make it work, NX has to be one better than the other. Being a mobile device first is the better move. A handheld device can scale up better than a console can scale down (mainly due to physics and thermodynamics). That said, it's in Nintendo's best interest to make the best portable it can without compromising the benefits of a portable. If that means a standard portable with an HDMI-port, so be it. Handhelds are personal devices. Let it stay that way on-the-go. Docked at home, have a separate Pro Controller. That is the simplest messaging Nintendo can have if it insists on going this direction. Adding weight and cost just to have detachable controllers that will inevitably confuse most of the people Nintendo is targeting is asinine.
Cost is always a concern, but Nintendo underdelivering on a good idea is also an issue with their past 2 home consoles. They need to see an idea all the way through instead of gimping it due to cost concerns.
Extra controllers are hidden costs on consoles. Besides being overpriced to all hell, they aren't included on consoles MSRP. On a machine with detachable controllers, that cost is now included.
I think Nintendo's main motivations this round are: How can we provide more software in a timely matter for both handheld and console? How can we entice people to buy both?
If Nintendo were to release a console and a handheld (which is currently looking slim), I don't think Nintendo can entice people to buy both. However, Nintendo combined its console and handheld hardware devisions for a reason, presumably since it couldn't handle supporting both. My thinking is the console would play all the handheld games like a Gameboy Player out of the box. It'll be like the New 3DS or PS4 Pro in that games played on the more powerful console will benefit from improved performance. Nintendo would likely develop games primarily with the handheld in mind. Considering how powerful NX is, I don't think it'd be an issue.
Our biggest clue to how powerful it has to be is can it run BotW? The Wii U can. Does anyone know if the X1 is comparable to the Wii U or at least make an educated guess? Another clue we have is Xenoblade Chronicles on 3DS. This type of conversion might be what we're likely to be looking at.
At best, Tegra X1 is two to three times as powerful as Wii U. That isn't a bad goal for a portable. Unfortunately, you aren't getting that performance without a heatsink. That said, Nintendo would have to go with Parker. Being on a smaller node and utilizing more modern technology would solve the heat problem.

Reattaching the parts to charge the controllers still means you can't use them in NES Mode or Pointer Mode. That isn't a nitpick; that's fundamentally problematic design. That means there are situations when you just can't play certain games unless everything is tethered to an outlet. What the **** kind of games machine is that?

Simplicity is key. If I can detach the controller so the touchscreen is easier to hold when creating levels in Super Mario Maker or to replace them because controllers wear down over time which we just accepted with every other handheld ever, that makes sense to me. Adding a myriad of options overly complicates the whole thing. Sure, other companies will likely create peripherals if the included controllers detach, but let them worry about that mess. Nintendo should focus on ergonomic yet elegant design and ease of use.

Despite all the leaks, I doubt we've heard everything. Detachable controllers have pros and cons just like everything else. Once you entertain the idea that they operate independently, you start running into the major flaws. NX is rumored to have a 6.2 inch 720p screen, and the thinking is to add more weight and cost to that? No, sir, I don't like it.

That was excellent even though Steve Rogers sounded like Batman.

I still don't like the detachable controllers thing unless it's just for replacement parts. When it comes to controllers, there should be fewer options, not more. Traditional, touch screen, motion; that's it. None of the options have start and select.

Cocktail Arcade Mode doesn't look like it can be a realistic option in practice. People move when playing games, and there's bound to be some cunts who yank the controller away.

NES mode and Pointer Mode would require a battery for each part. First, who wants to pay for that? Second, who wants to potentially charge three separate things? It's messy, and just doesn't seem necessary or worth it.

I doubt there's a single Smash Bros. elitist who would bother with an add-on. It's GameCube controllers or bust.

General Chat / Re: Um, Apple thread
« on: September 10, 2016, 03:03:19 PM »
1. Everyone has run out of ideas.

2. Every yearly phone is iterative.

3. Every company thrives on its devoted fanbase.

It's weird how Apple gets singled out for these things. I don't remember the last time I was wowed by a smartphone including Apple's. I think that says more about me and my first world problems than anything else. My first iPhone was the 4s so maybe that one when I could watch YouTube on a mobile device without everything looking and sounding like it was being recorded on a potato. I transitioned from Blackberry to something that better suited my lifestyle (e.g. taking pictures of my cat, watching videos instead of being a productive member of society). What can any OEM really add to these things that is going to impress the pants off people? Everything within reason has been added. They're being advanced as fast as technology can allow them to. They're as thin as they can be without snapping in half. There's very little room for pure innovation so we'll have to "settle" for iteration. Until a company figures out a way to shoot holograms at my eyes, smartphones are just a thing in my life that makes it more convenient. I just never understood how weirdly competitive and condescending people can be about the devices other people use.

Same goes for home computers. I'm going to buy an iMac because the MacBook Pro I've had for six and a half years ceases to function in the manner I want it to. It had a good run. I got my money's worth. I've never had a PC that lasted anywhere near as long. Apple added the thing I wanted two years ago (e.g. a higher resolution display), and that wasn't even innovative. It was the natural next step of displays. I have an anti-Apple friend who says Apple dumbs things down. You know what? Good. I like macOS. I want that to be as simple as possible. He says I can build a computer for less money. Sure, I could, but I'm not going to. I'm literally never going to build my own computer. I'll buy an iMac because it does what I need it to do in the manner I prefer to do it in (e.g. buying a well-made computer that will last for over six years).

I thought Man of Steel was okay. It has its problems, but it isn't the dumpster fire Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was. Afleck was the bomb as Batman despite breaking Batman's only two rules... repeatedly.

As far as the DCEU, outside of rebooting the whole thing, barely mentioning or referring to the first three films is probably Geoff Johns best move here. Still, I'll never understand why Warner Bros. didn't at least attempt to hand the keys over to Paul Dini and Bruce Timm, explicitly telling the latter that Batman doesn't **** Batgirl. They successfully made the DCAu, just make a live action one.

General Chat / Re: Um, Apple thread
« on: September 09, 2016, 04:21:29 PM »
Adobe Flash is still around in a manner of speaking, but all major browsers use HTML5 by default. For all intents and purposes, Flash is dead.

Do you mean Lightning or Thunderbolt? Apple uses Lightning in iOS devices for more control. I don't believe Apple ever intended for Thunderbolt to replace USB. It was a faster alternative. Apple likes playing around with technologically superior proprietary ports that gain no traction because most people don't want to trade convenience and cost effectiveness for performance. USB is good enough for most people. I'd really like USB 3.1 Generation 2 support in the new iMac though that's looking significantly unlikely. Intel won't have a CPU that natively supports USB 3.1 Generation 2 until Kaby Lake. The new iMac will probably still use Skylake so I'm likely SOL.

General Chat / Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
« on: September 09, 2016, 03:29:48 PM »
Thank you, kind sir. You are, as always, a gentleman and a scholar.

(I rewatched the episode. Still funny.)

General Chat / Re: Um, Apple thread
« on: September 09, 2016, 03:29:01 PM »
What are everyone's thoughts on Apple's keynote earlier this week?

People are freaking out about Apple ditching the headphone jack. Lenovo beat Apple a few months ago, and I read there are Chinese-only OEMs that have already done this. I'm not particularly happy about it. However, Apple has been right about kicking old standards to the curb in favor of emerging or just flat-out better, more modern technology so many times that it's hard for me to really make a compelling argument that this will be the time it's wrong. To name a few: floppy disks, parallel port, optical discs, and Adobe Flash. I wish wireless headphones were more reliable, but maybe a company as big as Apple backing the move away from the headphone jack is what the industry needs to make further advancements faster.

At the same time, $160 for Airpods can swiftly get the **** out of my face. I won't and never will buy those particularly at the price. I think there are better options (e.g. Audio-Technica).

In any case, I keep iPhones for two years so it isn't time for me to upgrade. The upgrades are minimal if you have the previous year's model but probably worth it for anyone who using an iPhone 6 or older. I read speculation that Apple went with a modest upgrade this year because it's planning to go all out with a complete revamp for the iPhone's 10 year anniversary next year. Not sure I buy that. I mean, behind all the headphone jack controversy, Apple also ditched the mechanical Home button. That's a fairly radical change that I don't think is getting the attention it deserves. I will upgrade next year.

I'll consider an Apple Watch once my iPod Touch dies and the watch can play music independently of the phone. I'm waiting for the Apple to announce the new iMac. My MacBook Pro is on its last legs. The battery barely holds a charge and the hardware chokes on Spotify, Chrome, and Word running at the same time.

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