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« Reply #925 on: August 19, 2007, 12:17:38 PM »
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Guess I better dig up my NP issues so I give some other single review scores to prove my point like you have. They are also heavily biased with Nintendo games, just like any official magazine is for a particular console.
Page 90 of the September issue is where the score vault is. Pick out something you think is off kilter.

Again, as I said, it is Nintendo rating its own games. But I think you've really only got about half of a point leeway in the argument.
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« Reply #926 on: August 19, 2007, 12:20:43 PM »
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Guess I better dig up my NP issues so I give some other single review scores to prove my point like you have. They are also heavily biased with Nintendo games, just like any official magazine is for a particular console.
Page 90 of the September issue is where the score vault is. Pick out something you think is off kilter.

Again, as I said, it is Nintendo rating its own games. But I think you've really only got about half of a point leeway in the argument.


Not sure what you mean there. I do find it odd that people are so defensive because someone questions the official game magazine of Nintendo, giving a first part game a perfect 10.
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« Reply #927 on: August 19, 2007, 12:22:13 PM »
Pokemon Battle Revolution got a 6.5 from what I remember...But yeah, sure, biased...
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« Reply #928 on: August 19, 2007, 12:26:47 PM »
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Pokemon Battle Revolution got a 6.5 from what I remember...But yeah, sure, biased...


Except for the part that even at 6.5/10 it was still higher than the vast majority of the reviewers.
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« Reply #929 on: August 19, 2007, 12:31:30 PM »
A crap score is still crap...If NP was trying to be biased I would have thought they would have tried a little bit harder...

(Actually, my turn for conspiracy theories!  You're trying to undermine Metroid Prime 3 because you're a rabid Halo fan that is getting that awful 130 dollar consumer-whore version!  Ewwww, EWWWW!)

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« Reply #930 on: August 19, 2007, 12:38:05 PM »
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Not sure what you mean there. I do find it odd that people are so defensive because someone questions the official game magazine of Nintendo, giving a first part game a perfect 10.
Well, lets just hypothesize... BioShock is developed by 2k games.

1up gave it a 10. IGN gave it a 9.7. Game Informer gave it 10.

Let's say for pretend that Nintendo, yes, Nintendo, is the developer and publisher of BioShock.

Would you still say Nintendo can't give its own game a 10.0 then?

What I'm getting at is, that if Metroid Prime is a 10.0 game, why can't Nintendo give it a 10.0?
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« Reply #931 on: August 19, 2007, 12:38:31 PM »
Actually when you look at the gamerankings list of games, usually Nintendo Power's scores fall in the top scores for a game. Whether it be WarioWare Smooth Moves, Wario: Master of Disguise, Pokemon, Wii Sports, Super Paper Mario, Mario Strikers, and Wii play to name a few. Yeah they are better but they still have a positive slant towards Nintendo made games even if it isn't as pronounced (BTW I think Game Informer sucks as well, if I recall they are the ones that gave Paper Mario for Wii a poor score because it wasn't a hardcore game). So usually when I read a NP score I take off 1/2 to 1 point on any Nintendo game, to even things out.
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« Reply #932 on: August 19, 2007, 12:40:18 PM »
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Not sure what you mean there. I do find it odd that people are so defensive because someone questions the official game magazine of Nintendo, giving a first part game a perfect 10.
Well, lets just hypothesize... BioShock is developed by 2k games.

1up gave it a 10. IGN gave it a 9.7. Game Informer gave it 10.

Let's say for pretend that Nintendo, yes, Nintendo, is the developer and publisher of BioShock.

Would you still say Nintendo can't give its own game a 10.0 then?

What I'm getting at is, that if Metroid Prime is a 10.0 game, why can't Nintendo give it a 10.0?


There is no reason why they can't, but I'm saying I need to see more scores to see if there is a bias or not for Metroid Prime 3. I hope they are right because Metroid Prime 3 is easily my most anticipated first person game coming out, even above Bioshock and easily above Halo 3. Let me put the shoe on the other foot, if The Official Xbox Magazine gave Bioshock a 10/10 and was the first review, I would be just as if not more hesitant with that score as I am with NP.
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« Reply #933 on: August 19, 2007, 12:51:45 PM »
"So usually when I read a NP score I take off 1/2 to 1 point on any Nintendo game, to even things out."

So what you are saying is that NP should have given the game an 11... =3
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« Reply #934 on: August 19, 2007, 12:53:42 PM »
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"So usually when I read a NP score I take off 1/2 to 1 point on any Nintendo game, to even things out."

So what you are saying is that NP should have given the game an 11... =3


. . . wait what?

She just said take off not add

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« Reply #935 on: August 19, 2007, 01:11:01 PM »


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« Reply #936 on: August 19, 2007, 01:13:59 PM »
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« Reply #938 on: August 19, 2007, 01:28:50 PM »
I just thought that Metroid Prime produced the Phazon because at the end of the first game, in the second part of the boss battle with it, didn't it spit out Phazon that you could use to attack it with?
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« Reply #939 on: August 19, 2007, 01:39:08 PM »
NP just a bunch of ms and sony fanboys. They constantly talk about non-Nintendo games and how good they are.... blah!
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« Reply #940 on: August 19, 2007, 02:07:58 PM »
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« Reply #941 on: August 19, 2007, 02:27:20 PM »
I really don't see how the current NP is all that biased toward Nintendo. Remember, 23 sites and magazines gave Twilight Princess perfect scores, Nintendo Power was not one of them. I don't usually put too much stock in reviews anyway, and if I am reading them I'll try to read as many as possible, but Nintendo Power has really improved in the last couple of years.  
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« Reply #942 on: August 19, 2007, 03:00:16 PM »
People just assume NP is biased because it's from Nintendo.
But if you compare the scores with other sites, NP is FAR from the most generous towards Nintendo's own games.
They even gave Eternal Darkness one of the WORST scores of any site or publication.

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« Reply #943 on: August 19, 2007, 03:32:29 PM »
I was surprised when I recently read an NP to notices that the reading level was higher then most newspapers.  Though I'm still boycotting them until they bring back those excellent comics.
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« Reply #944 on: August 19, 2007, 03:51:08 PM »
I find that most magazines, sites and such are extremely generous toward Nintendo games, but are horribly, horribly overcritical of Nintendo themselves.

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« Reply #945 on: August 19, 2007, 05:45:44 PM »
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People just assume NP is biased because it's from Nintendo.
But if you compare the scores with other sites, NP is FAR from the most generous towards Nintendo's own games.
They even gave Eternal Darkness one of the WORST scores of any site or publication.


And for every Eternal Darkness there is myriad of other games they gave higher scores to than any other publication. Personally I think you have to be bit naive to think that a Nintendo funded magazine would not be biased, because even when people try to be objective bias always slips in someplace.
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« Reply #946 on: August 19, 2007, 05:50:22 PM »
What did they give ED? If it's low enough, they may be my heroes. If it's too low though, I will send them some lovely hate-fan-art.
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« Reply #947 on: August 19, 2007, 05:57:11 PM »
full first hour of gameplay, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLkKu3wzxFE

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« Reply #948 on: August 19, 2007, 06:06:36 PM »
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full first hour of gameplay, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLkKu3wzxFE


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« Reply #949 on: August 19, 2007, 06:07:14 PM »
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What did they give ED? If it's low enough, they may be my heroes. If it's too low though, I will send them some lovely hate-fan-art.


They gave ED a 4/5, knowing Nintendo's stance back then they probably docked it for being too mature.
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