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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #525 on: March 08, 2010, 08:50:32 PM »
They said it takes place "hundreds" of years after OOT (although Aonouma did not say the exact amount).
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« Reply #526 on: March 08, 2010, 09:06:49 PM »
from my knowledge of the Zelda Timeline

OOT the beginning
TP Decades after Oot
WW 100s of years after oot
alttp a thousand or more years later
zelda 1 and 2 even further
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #527 on: March 08, 2010, 09:24:09 PM »
from my knowledge of the Zelda Timeline

OOT the beginning
TP Decades after Oot
WW 100s of years after oot
alttp a thousand or more years later
zelda 1 and 2 even further

But Nintendo refuses to give any kind of official timeline, and there are several different unofficial ones. Most of the ones I've seen have Zelda 1 & 2 at the beginning, though, with LTTP being at the end.
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #528 on: March 08, 2010, 10:12:51 PM »
The point is it doesn't matter....for Zelda.

Metroid has at least a decent continuity so if they feel like they want to maintain it they can (although I could care less).
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« Reply #529 on: March 08, 2010, 10:16:09 PM »
My point is, Nintendo's not going to come up with an idea they like for Metroid and then scrap it just because of continuity reasons.
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #530 on: March 08, 2010, 10:19:42 PM »
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« Reply #531 on: March 08, 2010, 10:28:47 PM »
Zelda follows the "just a legend idea" unless otherewise noted, Aonoma has only chronologized Twilight Princess and Windwaker that is centuries or millinea after oot. Metroid has a pretty define story, but Nintendo doesnt care about story much. Trillogy really got the story tight nit, but it wasn't popular in Japan so that doesn't matter. The game was made by Gaijin and wont sell even though its essentially just a first person zelda with a metroid theme.
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #532 on: March 08, 2010, 10:34:22 PM »
But Nintendo refuses to give any kind of official timeline
There have been official ones in the past, for instance on zelda.com, but they've been inconsistent and ultimately erased.
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« Reply #533 on: March 08, 2010, 10:58:11 PM »
I don't think this is comparable to the Zelda case, Miyamoto adamantly (and wisely) refuses any sort of focus on story, at all, in Mario or Zelda. I remember Koizumi had to sneak the storybook thing in Galaxy under Miyamoto, or he would had cut it.

If Metroid was his baby no story would touch it, thats for sure. And it's funny because RPG need story more than action games, however whatever little story is needed for Zelda comes from the gameplay design alone, and not some crazy or fan-fiction like idea in someone's head.

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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #534 on: March 09, 2010, 04:35:31 AM »
I always understood the timeline to be

Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Link to the Past
Link's Awakening
Zelda 1 and 2
Wind Waker
Phantom Hourglass
Spirit Tracks

I'm not sure about the others, but that was what I remember from Nintendo plus adding in obvious sequels. I recall just before Wind Waker came out NoA came up with a unified timeline where they stated that Link was the same Link in every game except Wind Waker but suffered from a 'time/dimension warp' during Majora's Mask that took him to the next game.
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #535 on: March 09, 2010, 01:29:49 PM »
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I don't think this is comparable to the Zelda case, Miyamoto adamantly (and wisely) refuses any sort of focus on story, at all, in Mario or Zelda.
He would probably allow it if it wasn't crap. Ocarina and Majora's Mask weren't heavy on story cinemas, but they handled the NPC development with style.
 
Koizumi also handled Link's Awakening NPC development. The characters only spoke a couple of lines, but I felt more charm from them then any character in Twilight Princess.
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« Reply #536 on: March 09, 2010, 01:56:01 PM »
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Ocarina and Majora's Mask weren't heavy on story cinemas

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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #537 on: March 09, 2010, 05:42:03 PM »
the only games place chronologically were Twilight princess and wind waker, Aonuma mentioned at a press converence or interview that Wind Waker took place several centuries or a millennium after Ocarina of time after the adult ocarina ending, and he said Twilight princess took place decades to a century after Oot. No exact dates. Miyamoto hasn't had much hands on the series since Oot, Aonuma is in charge of the series(it also means that is all they let him do now). Miyamoto will turn the table up if he thinks it sucks. I think however the big reason why Miyamoto doesn't want a set story is because he wants a future game where you make your own stories in a sort of open ended way. In fact i just came up with this awesome game idea....and a perfect name for the game.

 I think Metroid should have a strong story emphasis. I remember when I was playing Super Metroid and Resident Evil 2 at the same time, and I had all sorts of ideas for what a 3d Metroid could be(i also had no idea of the limitations of the future hardware), Prime lived up to most of it, but if done correctly a metroid game could be really scary at times.
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #538 on: March 09, 2010, 06:02:09 PM »
Not sure how we started talking about the Zelda "timeline" in this thread.

Metroid Timeline!

Metroid/Zero Mission
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime Hunters
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Prime 3
Metroid 2
Super Metroid
Other M
Metroid Fusion
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #539 on: March 09, 2010, 06:05:43 PM »
Not sure how we started talking about the Zelda "timeline" in this thread.

Metroid Timeline!

Metroid/Zero Mission
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime Hunters
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Prime 3
Metroid 2
Super Metroid
Other M
Metroid Fusion

Where does Metroid Pinball fit into this timeline?
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #540 on: March 09, 2010, 06:09:25 PM »
The Zelda discussion came from my argument that Nintendo couldn't care less about continuity and wouldn't let a story conflict stop them from doing anything.
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #541 on: March 09, 2010, 08:14:53 PM »
Not sure how we started talking about the Zelda "timeline" in this thread.

Metroid Timeline!

Metroid/Zero Mission
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime Hunters
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Prime 3
Metroid 2
Super Metroid
Other M
Metroid Fusion

Where does Metroid Pinball fit into this timeline?

Wasn't pinball a summation of the first prime game?  But, you know, with pinball...

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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #542 on: March 09, 2010, 08:24:56 PM »
Yeah.  A better question would be where Galactic Pinball fits in.
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #543 on: March 09, 2010, 10:46:26 PM »
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #544 on: March 11, 2010, 03:33:18 PM »
The following story leaves me slack-jawed:
 
http://kotaku.com/5491158/metroid-other-m-might-have-been-on+rails-if-not-for-team-ninja
 
You read that link right. Sakamoto's original idea for Other M was an on-rails shooter. Like Dead Space Extraction. Team Ninja saved the game, and Sakamoto stubbornly refuses to use any control scheme exept the Remote by itself. There is no Nunchuk. There is no Classic Controller.
 
This is genuinely worrying.
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #545 on: March 11, 2010, 03:35:03 PM »
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« Reply #546 on: March 11, 2010, 04:33:14 PM »
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« Reply #547 on: March 11, 2010, 04:41:01 PM »
That is why Sakamoto should be relegated to the role he had with the Metroid Prime games (where he was just a consultant). Maybe the game will still be fine, but some people just have a hard time keeping up with the times.
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Re: Metroid Other M
« Reply #548 on: March 11, 2010, 04:48:23 PM »
If I have to use the pointer at any point in the game, then I better have nunchuck support.
It makes no sense to have it any other way. I hope Miyamoto steps in and throws Sakamoto down onto the nearest tea table so that he can upend them both at the same time.

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« Reply #549 on: March 11, 2010, 04:52:50 PM »
Didn't someone say that you have no movement control when in 1st person mode?  I think that is how we he will end up with his rail shooter.