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Disney Infinity: Good Idea, Bad Idea

Gravity Falls and Finding Nemo

by Becky Hollada and Kimberly Keller - November 15, 2013, 8:06 am EST

What do Oregon and the Big Blue have in common? Absolutely nothing but this feature.

Gravity Falls (Good Idea) – by Becky Hollada

Gravity Falls is a relatively new animated series on the Disney Channel that follows Dipper and Mabel Pines, a pair of twins from California whose parents have forced them to spend the summer with their Granduncle (Grunkle) Stan in a little town called Gravity Falls, Oregon. The series has garnered some great reception from critics and fans alike with its highest rated episode pulling 4.5 million viewers. While Disney Infinity has started out doing a pretty good job creating a varied line-up of characters, Play Sets, and Power Discs, so far we have seen little from the Disney Channel side of things. Gravity Falls would be arguably the best place to continue after the upcoming Phineas and Ferb items, since it’s not only popular with fans, but something just as relevant to the Disney fan base as, say, Frozen, which already has a Disney Infinity release date. It’s quirky, funny, and has whimsy in spades.


Haha... grappling hook.

While we took a very specific focus with interesting Power Disc ideas last week, I’m jumping right back on the full Play Set for this show. Gravity Falls, OR is frankly just waiting for its own video game. This seemingly normal town contains a ton of bizarre creatures and powers all set in a mystery premise where the main characters and watchers only find out, bit by bit, how weird this place really is. Players could run around playing as both Dipper and Mabel with a tag team format, that we often see in RPGs, using Dipper’s journal to guide them through solving various strange occurrences in Gravity Falls. Like Fatal Frame or Silent Hill, but child and scaredy-cat friendly.

Though some Play Sets like The Incredibles have four or five characters, Gravity Falls can join others sitting at a solid three: Dipper, Mabel and Grunkle Stan. Dipper and Mabel are both resourceful and fearless and could easily hold their own in the Toy Box with any weapon, vehicle, or Power Disc. When you’re used to thrashing Gnomes with a shovel and cursed wax statues with a fake electric candle, you don’t bat an eyelash when you have to pick up Carl Fredrickson’s cane to fend someone off, or hopping onto Maximus for a ride. And Grunkle Stan is just kind of crazy, especially when money is involved. Enough said.

Although there are no real iconic weapons or vehicles in Gravity Falls, fans of the show and players alike would have a good time with the Pines’ golf cart from the very first episode, or Mabel’s totally random grappling hook she picks out of Grunkle Stan’s Mystery Shack Gift Shop. Since there is no real limit to what goes in Gravity Falls, and because the series itself isn’t currently finished, there is no end to what developers could pull from the series, now or in the future, to use in Disney Infinity.

With Disney Parks’ rides making more appearances, and even Disney’s latest animated film that isn’t even out yet already being advertised for Disney Infinity, it is past time that Disney looked to more of their Disney Channel works for something new.


Finding Nemo (Bad Idea) – by Kimberly Keller

Finding Nemo was, and still is, such a huge success it’s hard to believe it came out ten whole years ago. Currently it’s the third highest grossing animated film, 23rd highest overall, and the number one top seller of DVDs. That’s insane! Finding Dory is set to release in summer 2016 and Disney is probably going to be looking into every way to drum up profits for the franchise, which I’m okay with as long as it’s not though Disney Infinity.

Here’s a simple fact for you: Marlin, Dory, and Nemo, are all fish. Tiny little tropical fish. Have you seen these fish before? I was at an aquarium last year and I saw Clownfish and a Pacific Regal Blue Tang, the species of fish featured in the movie. They are so tiny! And you know what else I discovered? They hang out in water, being fish and all.


See the pity on their faces.

I’m not arguing against the Play Set, that could be fairly awesome, but think about the Toy Box! Fish, floppin’ all around the place, gasping for a mouthful of water from which to breathe sweet oxygen from. Sure, they could sprinkle a little Disney magic on the situation and give them the ability to breathe oxygen and float, but how would they hold any of the weapons? And driving vehicles? That’d just be sad to watch.

An argument could be made for a customization Power Disc, bringing the big blue ocean to the game, but how is that unique to Finding Nemo? Ariel’s underwater home is just as wet and a bit more colorful leading to more interesting options. When it comes down to it, Finding Nemo is a beautiful movie, filled with fun, unique characters, but it just doesn’t make the cut for a game like Disney Infinity.

Altered images courtesy of Kimberly Keller.

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Talkback

CericOctober 03, 2013

294,000 units.  Double Standard on Success.

Alright on the article.

CericOctober 03, 2013

I think Winnie the Pooh be an ok edition.


Now Roger Rabbit on the other hand would be one of those great on paper but not in reality combinations.  While I think the characters themselves be a great fit.  I don't see how the stages for them would work.  A large portion of the charm of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is having that contrast between the Cartoon and Real world and between Now and Then.  They would need photo realistic characters and settings to play the straight man to do it right.  They have to be different then the actual Infinity Universe style to get the contrast right.

BJWanlundOctober 03, 2013

YES to Roger Rabbit!  What about The Three Caballeros?  That technically would include a member of the Fab Five (or Six depending on your perspective), but hey, it'd certainly be interesting.

CericOctober 03, 2013

Lets really dig.  The Three Little Pigs.  They had their own series. 

MetalMario2October 03, 2013

None of these will be coming. The game ought to be called "Pixar Infinity: Featuring Johnny Depp".

CericOctober 04, 2013

To be honest Pixar properties are probably the easiest to port since they already have 3D models to start with.

Spak-SpangOctober 07, 2013

Actually Roger Rabbit would work if you only had Toon Town.  Toon Town was great and super Creepy...but you would have to get that sugary cell shaded world just perfect, and it would be a careful balance between annoying and brilliant. 



MetalMario2October 09, 2013

I actually binge-watched the Tinkerbell movies on Netflix on a day that I felt particularly bored and shiftless, and I've got to admit, they weren't that bad. Strictly kid's stuff, but not that bad. Disney is doing a good job of developing the character's genesis gradually over the course of this series of films. In the third film, they explained why Tinkerbell can't speak to humans using her normal voice, and the next film in development is supposed to feature a young Captain Hook (before Peter Pan cuts off his hand, of course).

WahOctober 09, 2013

Lucario ::)

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

Yeah, "The Black Cauldron" sucked.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorOctober 25, 2013

Song of the South.

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

They could actually do that if they left out Uncle Remus and the Tar Baby. I mean, it worked for Splash Mountain.

TeaHeeOctober 25, 2013

I didn't hate "The Black Cauldron" but I was also completely enamored with the book series it was based on back in junior high. Following much of the logic put forward against it, I would have to guess that "The Sword and the Stone" would also fall in the bad idea list.

KeyBillyOctober 27, 2013

I didn't realize that Black Couldron was so hated.  I saw it a few years ago and liked it a lot.  It has a unique tone and style that captured my imagination.  I don't plan on getting Infinity, but maybe it would work to make statues/buildings/mountains/weapons/etc. for the lesser known franchises, similar to trophies in SSB.

Jasae BushaeOctober 28, 2013

Having read the books the black cauldron is based upon, I can certainly say that the movie was worlds better by comparison and that a darker vibe would not have saved the film in the least.

And, I agree that it might not make the best of playsets for Infinity. As structured as that movie was, unless the playset was having you go through the plot of the film to detail, the creators would have to create some pretty new material (perhaps borrowing from other books in the original series?) which might be more work than they want to put in.
That said, if they did do it, it would not necesarily be a bad playset. The lone ranger playset received much much higher reviews than the film did and gets near universal praise for its approach despite the films mixed reaction. So if they were to tackle the black cauldron, they could probably make it work.


Though thinking on it, the black cauldron would actually make a pretty awesome kingdom hearts world. Given that settings penchant for telling the stories of movies over with the inclusion of kingdom hearts setting...They could simply give the horned king a cauldron that summons heartless and run the characters through a pretty solid world.


As for kim possible, I have to ask, what basis makes that series a good choice? They are already planning a phineas and ferb playset. They have the Incredibles already lined up. What could a kim possible playset offer that does not come off as a boring repeat of the already established playsets?
Lone Ranger tackled wild west
Incredibles did superheroes
Pirates did pirates
Monsters University did college life

The playsets at least for the first year or two should be trying to branch out and cover multiple genres instead of making a bunch of very similar playsets elsewise your just creating a game with tedium that is rereleasing the same content over and over.
Which would be bad for Kim Possible since as you said, it HAD its final season and its only getting older and further from public memory

TrekStyxNovember 04, 2013

I think the Kim Possible and her world of characters would be an awesome addition to Infinity.


It's true that The Incredibles already covers the superhero territory and Monsters U covers college/school life, but Kim Possible is NEITHER of these genres. She's a spy!


She's got gadgets, stealth, and acrobatics and fights evil all without the benefit of Mr. Incredible-esque strength. She's the Disney cartoon equivalent of Batman or James Bond, and the spy genre and martial arts action is something that is seriously fun and currently lacking in the current roster of Infinity swashbucklers and supers.


Plus a KP playset has great potential. If there's any doubt in your mind that her unique world of characters doesn't translate into a good gaming experience, check out the "Kim Possible: What's the Switch?" game from 2006. It is surprisingly addictive and even more surprising, incredibly challenging.


As for The Black Cauldron. It is indeed dated and doesn't work. While it may be true that something like The Lone Ranger got a playset that was more well received than its more polarizing film counterpart, that was also a modern, recent Disney property and one with Johnny "Captain Jack" Depp attached no less. Suffice it to say, The Lone Ranger deserved a second skin in gaming and Disney was rightly motivated to give it that chance.


Black Cauldron is old, irrelevant and didn't work for Disney even in its heyday. While the right group of developers might be able to fish through the source material and conjure up a fresh take on the story in game form, that would say more their own creativity than it would for The Black Cauldron as a deserving Infinity candidate.


Definitely proper good/bad ideas this week!

Tron, Flynn and Sark.


I have to disagree on Loki though—I prefer my Marvel, LucasFilm and Disney separate. If the line gets blurred, we may end up with Spider-Mickey and Darth Goofy, and I don't know if I want to live in that kind of world.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorDecember 06, 2013

You don't say....

http://www.geekrest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Darth-Goofy.jpg

I'm not sure if I'll ever get this game, but if they came out with Wall-E, my wife would buy the figurines regardless.

azekeDecember 07, 2013

Quote from: ballisticmedicine

Kill me. Now.

I know right?..

They're smearing all stinky SW business over our precious Goofy!..

Zombie Goofy in one of the latest Mickey Mouse shorts was so creepy

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