Topic: Silicon Knights developing a Xbox title?

[Uncle Rich AiAi]

Ummm yeah, The Magic Box reports that:

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Silicon Knights is working on a new Xbox title, which will be officially announced in summer 2004.

I don't know if this is true, because as we know, The Magic Box is NOT always reliable.  I've checked the other main gaming sites, and none have reported this.


At this stage, I advice not to go crazy and/or get pissed off.  I'm gonna sit back, eat popcorn, and wait if this turns out to be turn.

[Shift Key]

Until I hear word from the horses mouth, I'm ignoring this. They probably could have been more creative and said:

Silllycon NiGHTS are developing a child for a new reality show where the child grows up thinking they are a Bill Cosby/Chevy Chase character who wins the game if he can make someone die of laughter using routines like the Turkey Head dance.

NOW THAT WOULD BE A SHOW!

[DrZoidberg]

oh excelent, needs more drama, and this could be the cure for interweb e-boredom

[boggy b]

Could well be true. SK have ended their exclusivity deal with Ninty.

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/metalgearworkingtitle/news_6093427.html

[KDR_11k]

We know that. However, Dyack was seen making his way to Nintendo's conference room at E3.

[boggy b]

Big whoop.

I mean seriously, Hideo Kojima could probably be seen going to and from Nintendo's conference room at E3 2003 when TS was announced, but he's still making MGS3 exclusively for PS2.

[ruby_onix]

The apparent source of the SK-XBox rumor:

IGN XBox's "Off The Record"

[Grey Ninja]

I saw this yesterday.  I spent the day mulling it over.

There's one of 4 possibilities.

1)  Xbox is getting a port of Eternal Darkness or MGS: TTS
2)  Xbox isn't getting anything, and The Magic Box is wrong.  (because I couldn't find another site to report the same thing)
3)  Xbox is getting something completely new.
4)  Denis is wearing a money hat.

I would personally applaud Eternal Darkness coming out on Xbox, as it would show the franchise to a few more gamers.  That way when an exclusive sequel came out on GameCube, it would sell really really well.

Xbox not getting anything would get a cheer out of me.  PS2 getting something new instead would probably have me down at the store buying one, and being VERY unhappy about it.

Xbox getting something completely new would have me more angry than any of you have ever seen me.

Denis wearing a money hat would of course cause me to completely disavow Silicon Knights.  Much as it would break my heart to do so.

[DrZoidberg]

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3) Xbox is getting something completely new.
4) Denis is wearing a money hat.

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Xbox getting something completely new would have me more angry than any of you have ever seen me.

Denis wearing a money hat would of course cause me to completely disavow Silicon Knights. Much as it would break my heart to do so.

THE DRAMA, IT ENTERTAINS ME! Also, I heard Joe Gas Station owns an Xbox.

[thecubedcanuck]

"Xbox getting something completely new would have me more angry than any of you have ever seen me."

ohhhhhhh, we are so scared.
I say, who gives a poop.

[mouse_clicker]

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ohhhhhhh, we are so scared.
I say, who gives a poop.

Well, let's look at this from the perspective of a non-XBox-owning Gamecube owner, (IE, the majority)- they like Silicon Knights. They want to play the new Silicon Knights game. They cannot play the new Silicon Knights game because it's a on a console they do not own. From your viewpoint it doesn't matter, since you already own an XBox, but for those that don't it's not good.

[vudu]

allow me to retort on cubedcanuck's behalf.

::clears throat::

i own all three of the consoles, and i have a high def television, and i make boat loads of money, and i care of no one else but myself, and everyone who doesn't think like me is an idiot.

[Shift Key]

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However, Dyack was seen making his way to Nintendo's conference room at E3.

He was also seen at the Konami conference, probably means nothing regarding the future OMG TWIN SNAKES LIEK WHAT .

When Silicon Knights knows where they are going and starts heading down that path, they'll tell everyone. Guaranteed.

[joeamis]

I say let them develop games for whatever console they want to.  Would I rather see them still doing GC exclusives well yea of course and not just because I own PS2/GC and no XB.  They don't owe Nintendo consumers anything, no company does except maybe Nintendo.  Maybe if people actually bought Eternal Darkness they would still be exclusive, who knows.

[DrZoidberg]

i bought Eternal Litterary References, i gave it 7.9 joes out of a possible 10 gas stations. I'm glad silicon knights left, drama++.

[thecubedcanuck]

"Well, let's look at this from the perspective of a non-XBox-owning Gamecube owner, (IE, the majority)- they like Silicon Knights. They want to play the new Silicon Knights game. They cannot play the new Silicon Knights game because it's a on a console they do not own. From your viewpoint it doesn't matter, since you already own an XBox, but for those that don't it's not good."

I understand that. BUT, Denis is a business man and his goal is to better his business. If he believes his games will sell better on a differant system, then all the power to him. If you want to support that descesion then buy an X-box, if you think he's an ass, then dont. Just remember that SK is a business first and foremost, and that means it needs to make money.

[thecubedcanuck]

"i own all three of the consoles, and i have a high def television, and i make boat loads of money, and i care of no one else but myself, and everyone who doesn't think like me is an idiot."

Close. The last part is wrong, I dont think anyone who doesnt agree with me is an idiot, just you.
Again, this would be purely a business descision and a smart one at that, IMO.

[Ian Sane]

"Well, let's look at this from the perspective of a non-XBox-owning Gamecube owner, (IE, the majority)- they like Silicon Knights. They want to play the new Silicon Knights game. They cannot play the new Silicon Knights game because it's a on a console they do not own."

Don't forget that we all were told by Dyack many times that SK was Nintendo exclusive and would be a long time.  Not only is there a lot of us Cube owners that like SK and don't have an Xbox, there's a lot of us Cube owners that like SK that were told that we wouldn't need to buy another console for SK games.  The flip-flop from "we love Nintendo" to "we're free to make games for other consoles" in less than a year is the problem.

[thecubedcanuck]

"Don't forget that we all were told by Dyack many times that SK was Nintendo exclusive and would be a long time. Not only is there a lot of us Cube owners that like SK and don't have an Xbox, there's a lot of us Cube owners that like SK that were told that we wouldn't need to buy another console for SK games. The flip-flop from "we love Nintendo" to "we're free to make games for other consoles" in less than a year is the problem."

What if the flip flop is a result of something Nintendo did? What if SK left because they felt they had no choice?
I also disagree with the lets feel sorry for cube owners mentality. Neither Sk game sold worth a crap on the cube. Them wanting to test other waters is as much the cube owners fault as it is anyones.

[Ian Sane]

"What if the flip flop is a result of something Nintendo did? What if SK left because they felt they had no choice?"

That's valid and I would support them in that case.  Of course if that were the case I probably would flip-flop my opinion too.  Nintendo would have to do something really weird like have some Virtual Boyish design on their next console.

"I also disagree with the lets feel sorry for cube owners mentality. Neither Sk game sold worth a crap on the cube."

I'm not feeling sorry for Cube owners I'm feeling sorry for me.  I bought both of those games the day they were released.  Those who didn't buy those games can drop dead for all I care.  In fact I want to know who all these Cube owners are who aren't buying these games and Metroid Prime and other major titles.  It's like every Cube owner I know, online or in the real world, buys these games so who's this secret group of morons who f*ck up all the game sales?

[mouse_clicker]

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I understand that. BUT, Denis is a business man and his goal is to better his business. If he believes his games will sell better on a differant system, then all the power to him. If you want to support that descesion then buy an X-box, if you think he's an ass, then dont. Just remember that SK is a business first and foremost, and that means it needs to make money.

I never said he was an ass- he's one of my favorite people in the industry. I was just saying that from the perspective of a GAMER, who cares more about the games than the business, it's not good.

[thecubedcanuck]

" I was just saying that from the perspective of a GAMER, who cares more about the games than the business, it's not good. "

You are not upset as a GAMER, you are upset as a NINTENDO fan. There is a big differance.
SK's games will be SK's games regardless of what system they are on. By SK making games for either Sony or MS, this gives them a chance to grow by hitting a more suited demographic. This will bring in greater revenue, in turn, allowing SK to get bigger, and in theory produce more games.
So from a GAMERS stand point, this is the best news possible.
From a NINTENDO fans view, it sucks.

[The Omen]

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By SK making games for either Sony or MS, this gives them a chance to grow by hitting a more suited demographic. This will bring in greater revenue, in turn, allowing SK to get bigger, and in theory produce more games.
So from a GAMERS stand point, this is the best news possible.
From a NINTENDO fans view, it sucks.

I'd agree with your point except for the fact Xbox games do not sell.  Even games aimed at their supposed demographic have failed miserably.  Sony is the only way your argument can work.   And i'm not alleviating Nintendos responsibility in this.  Either way, they should have made sure to lock SK up.  And they didn't.  

Which makes me wonder something that seems far fetched, but maybe true after all.  The MS+Nintendo console.  Rumors, and confirmation from Ken Lobb, are floating around that MS and Rare are making games for the DS.  Maybe MS will support the DS, to go against their rival Sony.  And maybe this is because they are both on the same team, literally.  Strange for sure, but Denis was going to a Nintendo meeting at E3.  Supposedly about the DS.  Now, if SK is with MS, and they're making games for the DS. then something has got to be up.  And I know Rare have released, or plan to release games for the GBA, but that was to fulfill a contract.  To have new games in the works is another matter entirely.

[couchmonkey]

I personally don't see Nintendo and Microsoft pairing up, I think both companies are too proud to submit to the other.  If anything, I think MS might support Nintendo's handhelds to prevent Sony from taking over the entire gaming market.  Or maybe they just want to make more money!  Rare's games don't exactly sell to the Xbox crowd - Grabbed by the Ghoulies was in the bargain bins right after Christmas.  The company was originally supposed to expand Xbox's user base but instead it seems to me that Rare's games are starting to get assimilated into the Xbox family.  See the latest Conker and Kameo screens and movies for evidence.

Anyway, on the original subject, I don't think Silicon Knights is going to make a game for Xbox, GameCube, or PS2.  There are only about two years until the next consoles are released, I suspect Too Human will debut on one or more of those shortly after their launch.

[thecubedcanuck]

"Which makes me wonder something that seems far fetched, but maybe true after all. The MS+Nintendo console. Rumors, and confirmation from Ken Lobb, are floating around that MS and Rare are making games for the DS. Maybe MS will support the DS, to go against their rival Sony. And maybe this is because they are both on the same team, literally. Strange for sure, but Denis was going to a Nintendo meeting at E3. Supposedly about the DS. Now, if SK is with MS, and they're making games for the DS. then something has got to be up. And I know Rare have released, or plan to release games for the GBA, but that was to fulfill a contract. To have new games in the works is another matter entirely."

Yet another can of worms opens.