Author Topic: Silicon Knights and Nintendo break up (Read 103380 times)

the_zombie_luke · « **Reply #325 on:** April 16, 2004, 05:15:02 PM »

Actually, I've figured out the split. It started since SK chose to drop the GBA connectivity from Twin Snakes. Miyamoto became angry, and well, look what happened:

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NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #326 on:** April 16, 2004, 05:15:07 PM »

TRUST NO ONE

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

kpw22 · « **Reply #327 on:** April 17, 2004, 07:46:14 AM »

uhh great picture...

Avinash_Tyagi · « **Reply #328 on:** April 17, 2004, 07:48:58 AM »

It probably came down to the bottom line. The contract between them was set to expire, SK decided they could make more money if given the option to be able to release on multiple platforms or port games to other platforms and so they decided not to renew the contract.

This is the most likely explanation, not because of any ill will or anything else, just $$$$.

But I seriously doubt this will be the end of SK games on ninty consoles, more than likely the games will still all end up on the cube and N5, this just means that many will also find their way to Sony and MS consoles, same as what Factor 5 is planning on doing with the next generation consoles.

savanna03 · « **Reply #329 on:** April 17, 2004, 08:20:54 AM »

the more i read about a SK/NINTENDO break up topic, the more it is getting weird. its either the fans are mirroring the TUPAC's 7 YRS THEORY or this could be the best prank in video game history. ahhhhhh i just want the official press release people. RARE and LEFT FIELD had one on the day it was done while SK didn't and still haven't... odd.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #330 on:** April 17, 2004, 08:30:32 AM »

It's still going slowly, but finally people are finally opening their eyes...

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #331 on:** April 17, 2004, 10:16:18 AM »

They haven't updated their website in a year. I'd like to see some downloadable goodies and development team comments and stuff.

savanna03 · « **Reply #332 on:** April 17, 2004, 11:45:19 AM »

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Originally posted by: Bill
It's still going slowly, but finally people are finally opening their eyes...

hey bill, do u know anything??? the way u post made it seem u know whats up. aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh your playing mind game and im going insane... aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh... ...lol OH MAN.

Zeks · « **Reply #333 on:** April 17, 2004, 02:36:47 PM »

Hmmm funny, I just had deja-vu. Add that to what I think and I think this will turn out to be alright, perhaps just as Bill is leading on to say

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Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #334 on:** April 17, 2004, 05:09:20 PM »

You people are looking into this far too much. Get over it!

Mario · « **Reply #335 on:** April 17, 2004, 05:14:47 PM »

Awww, this thread had 333 replies until you posted in it AiAi!

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #336 on:** April 17, 2004, 05:22:50 PM »

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Originally posted by: AiAi
You people are looking into this far too much. Get over it!

No, you aren't looking in far enough...

And get on MSN, please!

Mario · « **Reply #337 on:** April 17, 2004, 09:40:33 PM »

10 more reasons this is a prank.

*Announcement made on April 13, there are 12 main characters in Eternal Darkness, you are the 13th.

*IGN-PGC-SK-PRANK has 13 letters

*IGN gave MGS:TTS 8.5. 8 + 5 = 13.

*There is a wavebird on one of the desks in Twin Snakes, there are 13 buttons/switches on a wavebird.

*You can play pranks on people with wavebirds by switching the frequencys around and stuff.

*April is the fourth month of the year, Eternal Darkness took 4 years to finally get released, and the year right now is 2004.

*I3 = B = 2nd letter = second party = Silicon Knights staying second party

*At 3.33 pm this afternoon I ate a sandwich, Denis Dyack eats sandwiches.

*ED2 will be their 3rd GameCube game. (ED)2 + 3(rd GCN game) = 5, May is the 5th month, May is E3, and Dyack said they MAY still develop Nintendo games.

*The PGC article about SK leaving has 261 words, whats 333 - 261? 72. 72 hours is three days. E3 goes for three days.

The darkness comes.

Berto2K · « **Reply #338 on:** April 17, 2004, 09:45:39 PM »

LOL...teh weirdness is coming from everywhere!!

But seriously, as more "real" connections are made, I am starting to lean towards this being not true. There are many things that are odd or don't add up right.

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #339 on:** April 17, 2004, 09:56:30 PM »

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Originally posted by: Mario
*At 3.33 pm this afternoon I ate a sandwich, Denis Dyack eats sandwiches.

WTF? lolz

This is getting beyond ridiculous.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #340 on:** April 17, 2004, 11:54:00 PM »

I think that was the point.

I've figured it out.

Remember when Konami infiltrated SK? I don't think we got the real story.

I think they killed Dyack and installed a puppet Dyack of their own so they could port MGS:TT.

joedaddy · « **Reply #341 on:** April 18, 2004, 03:37:49 AM »

i dont really feel like reading through 17 pages of comments, so im just gonna put up my 2 cents...

*HATERATION ALERT*

im totally cool with SK leaving nintendo. i think theyre an overhyped developer and the whole SK/nintendo split has received way too much attention.

for starters, its painfully obvious that whoever created theyre logo lacks any kind of design sense. just looking at their logo gives me an indication of the quality of their work.

Eternal Darkness impressed me... in SOME respects. in others, lets just say i was less impressed. (no, im not going to get into specifics because i'll realise how weak my case is)

in summary, i dont think SK splitting is any reason to jump ship on buying the next nintendo console.

odifiend · « **Reply #342 on:** April 18, 2004, 05:06:41 AM »

joe daddy did you just judge a company by their logo? *whistle*
Anyway look at Nintendo's logo (their name in an oval), Konami's logo (their name), Sega's logo (their name). That is the most ridiculous thing I've read in this thread and let me tell you, there was stiff competition for stupid.
Paladin: Octopus must not have died.

Smashman · « **Reply #343 on:** April 18, 2004, 05:27:30 AM »

I just hope that this does not have an effect on other companies... Let's all take the time to pray... OK, done praying.

Oldskool · « **Reply #344 on:** April 19, 2004, 09:42:28 AM »

MS better not try anything...

Rich · « **Reply #345 on:** April 19, 2004, 12:51:33 PM »

Sorry but I seriously doubt MS is involved in anyway. Why? Because SK has not made a hit game this generation. Yes ED was great but it didn't sell, and its to early to tell with MGS. Knowing that MS goes mostly on what and who sells they wouldn't be interested in SK. Look at Rare, they had made games that sold millions upon millions(Goldeneye) and their name was very well know, so, they seemed to be the obvious developer to buy.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #346 on:** April 20, 2004, 05:51:00 AM »

MGS TS sold only 125K (March NPD figures).

So, yeah it really isn't anything to brag about (remake or not) and I can see why SK is leaving.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #347 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:14:05 AM »

That IS something to brag about, considering the game
1. got no advertising
2. was released on a system with a completely different target group
3. was a remake of a game released not too far ago (i.e. the "Playstation Generation" would have been able to play it)
4. has a sequel that's already out on other consoles plus another one that's coming soon.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #348 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:30:07 AM »

And what about RE? RE sold 300K+ during it's first month, more than double than MGSTS.

And what good is bragging rights when it doesn't place food on your table? Not sure what the ratio's is with SK/Nintendo/Konami but usually developers get less than a few dollars per software sold (publisher take the big chuck as well as retailers) which means about 250 to 1/2 million revenue for Sk. Now take employees salaries (avg GD is over 75K), your going end up looking into the red.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #349 on:** April 20, 2004, 10:06:00 AM »

Usually the publisher pays the dev house enough to get the people through the dev process. The dev house doesn't take much of a risk, but it doesn't get the big money, either. If the game is a failure the publisher usually has the damage. The publisher might not want t o work with devs with a bad track record, but threy can't demand their money back if a game doesn't live up to expectations, either.

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Author Topic: Silicon Knights and Nintendo break up (Read 103380 times)